Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 03:34PM

If anyone wants to know the weather for the foreseeable future...

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Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 03:35PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Look its the lockdown police.

May be very valid reasons as to why more than one person from a household has to go shopping.

There is no reason for a couple or a family of 3 to go shopping together. Nobody enjoys the lockdown, we are following specific rules for our own safety not for fun

statto25 · 16-04-2020 03:35PM

Two friends of mine got results back today after over 2 weeks waiting, both negative in the same area but different doctors. I wasnt in direct contact with them obviously to see how sick they were but according to both their doctors, they are hugely surprised at the negative result and one GP commented that most of the results sent back in one particular batch were negative. I dont want to put on my tinfoil hat but but one of these people has a serious medical condition and was sick for over 3 weeks and still isnt 100% so I cant believe they didnt come back as a positive.

Larbre34 · 16-04-2020 03:36PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

My local tesco are doing well in limiting numbers but I did notice this week that there were a few couples knocking about. It is completely unnecessary for 2 able bodied people to be shopping. Standards are slipping. N

How do you know how able bodied they are? People don't advertise hidden conditions on a tag around their neck, and we haven't quite reached conditions that they need to.

So long as the stores are metering the total number of people inside the actual shop, it doesn't matter a whole lot if its one or two people from the same household that are there together. In fact it may get them in and out quite a bit quicker. My own anecdotal evidence would be that standards are if anything being reinforced.

McDermotX · 16-04-2020 03:37PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

My local tesco are doing well in limiting numbers but I did notice this week that there were a few couples knocking about. It is completely unnecessary for 2 able bodied people to be shopping. Standards are slipping. N

Yep......was only down in the local one earlier. Too many husband and wife duos waiting in the queue outside, along with a group of 4 teen girls (under 20 years of age anyway) trying to walk in at the same time with each other.

Of course, said group are let in one at a time, before regrouping inside to presumably form a Covid Attack formation up and down the aisles.

Dunderheads.

spookwoman · 16-04-2020 03:37PM

auspicious wrote: »

( re. HSE cases map )
No thanks. I'm not part of that posse. I'm sure if one spends considerable time on this thread one's response can be a little short on occasion.

Surely if the HSE has gone to the trouble of compiling and releasing the map it would not be distributed to the media alone but made widely available to the public also.
If it is a public resource I am entitled to view it at my leisure.
If you have a link or such would you be so kind as to provide it?

report is here
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-updates.html#daily-updates

tobefrank321 · 16-04-2020 03:37PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Wow. I wouldn't agree with point 1. I think come the 5th there will see a considerable and controller lifting of restrictions to allow the Economy to start to function again.

I'd agree with point 2. Come the 5th of May we need to keep protecting the Vulnerable. I think this can be done in tandem with a controlled lifting of restrictions.

Pubs and the hospitality businesses have to remain closed until further notice. I feel for everyone affected but that but there is just no way they can reopen until we are clear of Covid.

Anyone who can work remotely should continue to do so.

Building sites should reopen and they should continue with social distancing measures. Perhaps the different trades could rotate the days they work etc.

The like of the retail parks should reopen again with strict restrictions. It is all doable and can be successful along with keeping the new cases down.

This current lockdown won't be forced on us after the 5th of May that we know. It's up to the Govt. how much the Economy and people suffer from here on in. A balance needs to be struck. There is no point people coming on here talking about the sunrise and andrea Bocelli giving them a lift and all the vulnerable people they know and all that ****e if we don't have something to return to in terms of living standards.

People can argue that I'm being inhumane that's fine. But there is a practical element to this and people have every right to protect their income and job.

I think when covid19 came along first, there was a lot of uncertainty around it and fear of it. The more we learn about it, like anything the more we should be able to cope with it, long term. Its clear that 99% of kids for example will not be seriously impacted. The 1% who are should be given the best care in hospital. If we stretch out the herd immunity approach then we will of course see an unavoidable surge at various stages. We need to make a huge effort to prepare for this surge - Convert hotels to temporary hospitals, more ventilators, more icus beds, and PPE.

I should add that option 1 is my preference, to stamp it out completely.

We are failing to isolate positive cases properly, this seems to be the main failing in our approach. If someone tests positive, they need to be isolated, possibly in many of the vacant hotels we have at present. If they have strong symptoms of covid 19 they also should be isolated properly.

At the moment, our lockdown has way too many holes and flaws in it. You either go full lockdown for 2 or 3 months or you might as well not bother.

fly_agaric · 16-04-2020 03:37PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Let everyone else return to work. Even encourage the spread with the renewal of sports events and the likes - aim for gradually increasing herd immunity in the longer term

This disease seems to spread easily + growth of cases takes off like a rocket when people are behaving "normally". That course of action will I presume implode the health service at some point and lead to a pretty ghastly outcome + render last few weeks efforts pointless. Can't see that happening (even if some restrictions are lifted next month).

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 03:39PM

US death toll has been revised up for yesterday to 2,763 (and some previous days)

Overall death toll now stands at 32,707 (up from 28,500 yesterday)

castletownman · 16-04-2020 03:39PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

I saw that pub letter, total bs. Office of an taoiseach, signed Tony Halohan? He's in the department of health. One I saw has the letter open in Word aswell..

And I don't know how it could be so specific with the date September 1st.

Such soothsaying could have been handy at the start of February

FVP3 · 16-04-2020 03:40PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Sounds like you going out a lot too if you see this everywhere, I think i got my answer already

You don't understand simple english, mate. Everywhere I shop is not the same as I shop everywhere. I shop once a week, as always, within 2Km and follow all social distancing.

You on the other hand tell us everyday how busy the streets are.

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 03:40PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

How do you know how able bodied they are? People don't advertise hidden conditions on a tag around their neck, and we haven't quite reached conditions that they need to.

So long as the stores are metering the total number of people inside the actual shop, it doesn't matter a whole lot if its one or two people from the same household that are there together. In fact it may get them in and out quite a bit quicker. My own anecdotal evidence would be that standards are if anything being reinforced.

metering the number of people is not enough if such people don't take care of social distancing and other basic rules. 1 person per household is the rule in most countries at the moment, not sure if it is in Ireland to it's common sense anyway, big weekly shopping instead of small repeated visit to the shop is also a must

SCOOP 64 · 16-04-2020 03:40PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

If anyone wants to know the weather for the foreseeable future...

Whats the max you can invite to a BBQ party with the restrictions?

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 03:41PM

FVP3 wrote: »

You don't understand simple english, mate. Everywhere I shop is not the same as I shop everywhere. I shop once a week, as always, within 2Km and follow all social distancing.

You on the other hand tell us everyday how busy the streets are.

I have been posting on this thread for merely 2 days, and i posted links to the videos of people strolling around the streets of Dublin in case you missed them

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 03:41PM

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Whats the max you can invite to a BBQ party with the restrictions?

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lillycakes2 · 16-04-2020 03:41PM

How can grandparents still cuddle their grandkids when restrictions are lifted or just come out of cocooning?

auspicious · 16-04-2020 03:43PM

spookwoman wrote: »

report is here
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-updates.html#daily-updates

I was trying to avoid download though.
But thanks.

tobefrank321 · 16-04-2020 03:44PM

lillycakes2 wrote: »

How can grandparents still cuddle their grandkids when restrictions are lifted or just come out of cocooning?

They can't. They won't be able to do that until we eliminate it through an extreme lockdown, a vaccine or when most children and their parents are immune.

one man clappin · 16-04-2020 03:45PM

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Whats the max you can invite to a BBQ party with the restrictions?

According to Priti Patel, three thousand, seventy eighty hundred nine thousand and thirty two hundred fifty five.

An Ciarraioch · 16-04-2020 03:45PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1250808701914689538

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 03:45PM

lillycakes2 wrote: »

How can grandparents still cuddle their grandkids when restrictions are lifted or just come out of cocooning?

Without a cure or vaccine how safe do you rekon it will be to have grankids playing with elderly people?

Maggie Benson · 16-04-2020 03:46PM

McDermotX wrote: »

Yep......was only down in the local one earlier. Too many husband and wife duos waiting in the queue outside, along with a group of 4 teen girls (under 20 years of age anyway) trying to walk in at the same time with each other.

Of course, said group are let in one at a time, before regrouping inside to presumably form a Covid Attack formation up and down the aisles.

Dunderheads.

Couples may well be shopping for more than one household?

Iamabeliever · 16-04-2020 03:47PM

statto25 wrote: »

Two friends of mine got results back today after over 2 weeks waiting, both negative in the same area but different doctors. I wasnt in direct contact with them obviously to see how sick they were but according to both their doctors, they are hugely surprised at the negative result and one GP commented that most of the results sent back in one particular batch were negative. I dont want to put on my tinfoil hat but but one of these people has a serious medical condition and was sick for over 3 weeks and still isnt 100% so I cant believe they didnt come back as a positive.

Samples left that long should not be tested. End off - false reading are as bad as positive ones

Quantum Erasure · 16-04-2020 03:47PM

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Whats the max you can invite to a BBQ party with the restrictions?

How big is your garden?

SCOOP 64 · 16-04-2020 03:47PM

one man clappin wrote: »

According to Priti Patel, three thousand, seventy eighty hundred nine thousand and thirty two hundred fifty five.

I need a bigger BBQ.

Stheno · 16-04-2020 03:48PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1250808701914689538

That's positive news

SCOOP 64 · 16-04-2020 03:49PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

How big is your garden?

About a Acre.

Achasanai · 16-04-2020 03:49PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

They are calling vulnerable people who aren't over 70 encouraging them to cocoon.

I thought vulnerable people of any age were already supposed to be cocooning?

Iamabeliever · 16-04-2020 03:50PM

lillycakes2 wrote: »

How can grandparents still cuddle their grandkids when restrictions are lifted or just come out of cocooning?

It's the same as burgers and BSE

wakka12 · 16-04-2020 03:50PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1250808701914689538

Youd feckin hope R0 but be below 1 after a month of this

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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