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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    2,335 new deaths in the US so far today.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Can't believe we have a couple of Trump defenders on here. At best he's a dangerous fool.

    Misguided populism brought him to power. It also brought people like Hitler to power. Trump is an egotistical charlatan in charge of the most powerful military nation on earth. And it appears like he's becoming senile, more erratic to boot.

    The one good thing about Trump is he is afraid of war, the alternative had voted for every war going and is a war monger.
    The US didn't have a good choice, but I know people who voted for him due to speaking out against more wars like Iraq, Libya etc
    The alternative in 2016 was far more dangerous, but that is due to two terrible candidates.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    They are about a 'neutral' as you are. ;)

    Nowthis (owned by the same gougers that run BuzzFeed and the Huffington post)

    Here is a taste of what they are all about

    During the 2016 presidential campaign, NowThis News repeatedly claimed that Donald Trump lied about Bill Clinton signing the North American Free Trade Agreement using videos posted on Facebook and YouTube. But Politifact found that NowThis News's claims were false, and Bill Clinton did in fact sign the final version of the North American Free Trade Agreement like Trump had stated.[15]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    World Coronavirus Cases: 1,993,645. now

    It will be 2,000,000 by morning.

    4 months to reach 1,000,000, 14 days to reach 2,000,000.

    Exponential growth in a pandemic is really scarey.

    Terrible !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    World Coronavirus Cases: 1,993,645. now

    It will be 2,000,000 by morning.

    4 months to reach 1,000,000, 14 days to reach 2,000,000.

    Exponential growth in a pandemic is really scarey.

    Terrible !

    Fcuking hell


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    For those interested I am on approx day 8 now. Feel ok still. Have a cough this evening with a small bit of chestiness to it. Still was able to get out and have a BBQ in the garden this evening. Don't feel normal though. Have a strange detachment and fatigue. I still have no sense of smell. I can't complain given the way some are suffering. I managed a 30 minute work out this morning because I though I was through it, but maybe I am paying for that this evening. Probably wansn't the smartest.

    Get well soon and wishing you a speedy recovery


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    World Coronavirus Cases: 1,993,645. now

    It will be 2,000,000 by morning.

    4 months to reach 1,000,000, 14 days to reach 2,000,000.

    Exponential growth in a pandemic is really scarey.

    Terrible !

    Italy and Spain have peaked and new case numbers are falling thankfully. Some other countries the same? I highly doubt we will see 2.5 million. Unless the virus takes hold in Africa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    fritzelly wrote: »
    I feel sorry for Fauci and Birx

    Why


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,783 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    2,335 new deaths in the US so far today.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


    It's like 9/11 everyday , yet because it's so common now no one bats an eyelid. The whole world has become desensitised to mass loss of life,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    It's like 9/11 everyday , yet because it's so common now no one bats an eyelid. The whole world has become desensitised to mass loss of life,

    3,529 in Europe today too. Just numbers on a screen. Crazy stuff


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Italy and Spain have peaked and are falling thankfully. I highly doubt we will see 2.5 million. Unless the virus takes hold in Africa

    In all honesty, I'd be surprised if there isn't a severe lack of funding to be properly testing in some countries in Africa. There could be a lot more cases there that we will never know about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Vegas is a horrible place.

    Not really. its pretty nice. Vegas is not the strip BTW. Source, I live here.

    And we are doing ok here so far and following the social distancing measures better than most states in the US. According to some models, we are already over the peak. If the governor decided to start opening up again gradually in May, I would be OK with and so would most people here. There's a lot of people out of work right now. Its not sustainable

    The vast majority of the US is not in a situation like NYC. Some lifting of restrictions in places could be ok.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    In all honesty, I'd be surprised if there isn't a severe lack of funding to be properly testing in some countries in Africa. There could be a lot more cases there that we will never know about

    India is another country which could have serious issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    This is a really good paper showing what Iceland has done testing-wise to control their epidemic:

    Spread of SARS-CoV-2 in the Icelandic Population
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2006100

    Because they've done so much testing, and so much sequencing of virus from people who tested positive, they have a very detailed understanding of how the virus was introduced and transmitted.

    Most of the early positive tests were from people who picked it up in the Italian and Austrian Alps. Later positives were linked to travel from the UK, Spain, USA, which weren't initially designated as high risk areas, meaning travellers weren't tested until later. From tracking the virus sequences detected over time, the authors suggest this initial oversight could have been the cause of the virus becoming established in the population.

    They also figured what they think is the minimum number of people who brought it in via Reykjavik airport: 42.

    They've tracked who gave it to whom in Iceland with remarkable accuracy. They give an example of 14 people who interacted with each other, and - based on virus sequences - show who could have passed it to whom, and who could not have.

    They show the incidence of each of the different symptoms, and the % with none, the way the source of infection changes over time (initially mostly from travel, later more within families), and the incidence in the population over time as the epidemic declines.

    By doing all this testing (10% of pop), along with contact tracing and quarantining (5% of pop), the number of new cases has come down from a peak of over a hundred in a day to nine yesterday (covid.is/data).

    We also know that eight people have died and 989 have been discharged after recovering, for a closed CFR of 0.8%.

    The ongoing random population survey shows there could have been ~2k people infected at the start of April, yet only 400 cases have been detected through targeted testing since then. That tells us that many mild or asymptomatic cases are undetected, so the true infection fatality rate will be substantially below 0.8%.
    That said, they've also been able to keep the infection away from the elderly (under 5% of cases are over 70 compared with 10% of the population), which no doubt has prevented deaths.


  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's like 9/11 everyday , yet because it's so common now no one bats an eyelid. The whole world has become desensitised to mass loss of life,

    If we were, we wouldn't be talking about it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    darjeeling wrote: »
    This is a really good paper showing what Iceland has done testing-wise to control their epidemic:

    Spread of SARS-CoV-2 in the Icelandic Population
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2006100

    Because they've done so much testing, and so much sequencing of virus from people who tested positive, they have a very detailed understanding of how the virus was introduced and transmitted.

    Most of the early positive tests were from people who picked it up in the Italian and Austrian Alps. Later positives were linked to travel from the UK, Spain, USA, which weren't initially designated as high risk areas, meaning travellers weren't tested until later. From tracking the virus sequences detected over time, the authors suggest this initial oversight could have been the cause of the virus becoming established in the population.

    They also figured what they think is the minimum number of people who brought it in via Reykjavik airport: 42.

    They've tracked who gave it to whom in Iceland with remarkable accuracy. They give an example of 14 people who interacted with each other, and - based on virus sequences - show who could have passed it to whom, and who could not have.

    They show the incidence of each of the different symptoms, and the % with none, the way the source of infection changes over time (initially mostly from travel, later more within families), and the incidence in the population over time as the epidemic declines.

    By doing all this testing (10% of pop), along with contact tracing and quarantining (5% of pop), the number of new cases has come down from a peak of over a hundred in a day to nine yesterday (covid.is/data).

    We also know that eight people have died and 989 have been discharged after recovering, for a closed CFR of 0.8%.

    The ongoing random population survey shows there could have been ~2k people infected at the start of April, yet only 400 cases have been detected through targeted testing since then. That tells us that many mild or asymptomatic cases are undetected, so the true infection fatality rate will be substantially below 0.8%.
    That said, they've also been able to keep the infection away from the elderly (under 5% of cases are over 70 compared with 10% of the population), which no doubt has prevented deaths.

    If only the third world ****hole of Spain could learn from them.

    Absolute carnage here, with cases rising and rising, no sign of it slowing at all here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


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    To be fair, that is just a wee bit selective and doesn't include the travel bans.

    No to be fair, at the time (and I still do) I thought they were instituted for political rather than public health reasons, but they were actions he took.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,940 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    If only the third world ****hole of Spain could learn from them.

    Absolute carnage here, with cases rising and rising, no sign of it slowing at all here...



    No idea why you are living there if you think its a 3rd world country?

    Also cases down almost 5000 per day since the peak.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,783 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    3,529 in Europe today too. Just numbers on a screen. Crazy stuff




    Covid 19 Lives Matter, everyone
    & Everytime





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    What I would give to see a similar drop start here in the next few days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Crazy to think there’s Humans still trading in wet shops in China. I legit felt guilty having to go Chemist to get a cream for my Mother who I’m caring for, but there’s actual Humans still doing what they do in these hotbed type of environments where Viruses can thrive. Fooking unbelievable when you think about it!

    Sorry if I’m coming across as Racist in PC Land.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Crazy to think there’s Humans still trading in wet shops in China. I legit felt guilty having to go Chemist to get a cream for my Mother who I’m caring for, but there’s actual Humans still doing what they do in these hotbed type of environments where Viruses can thrive. Fooking unbelievable when you think about it!

    Sorry if I’m coming across as Racist in PC Land.

    Apparently there is a belief that if you torture the animal before boiling it alive the meat will be tastier.
    Something to do with adrenaline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭kyote00


    he said 'bats'
    It's like 9/11 everyday , yet because it's so common now no one bats an eyelid. The whole world has become desensitised to mass loss of life,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Not more of this Cheltenam stuff again...
    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Apparently there is a belief that if you torture the animal before boiling it alive the meat will be tastier.
    Something to do with adrenaline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    kyote00 wrote: »
    no one bats an eyelid
    he said 'bats'

    Eye of newt, and toe of frog, wool of bat, and tongue of dog. Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting. Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Eye of newt, and toe of frog, wool of bat, and tongue of dog. Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting. Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing.

    Sounds like the secret chicken breast sangwhich recipe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Sweden is looking like they made a big mistake.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/sweden


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,785 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Heart Damage in COVID-19 Patients Puzzles Doctors
    Up to one in five hospitalized patients have signs of heart injury. Cardiologists are trying to learn whether the virus attacks the organ

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heart-damage-in-covid-19-patients-puzzles-doctors/

    Spanish flu and other, more recent flu epidemics like A(H1N1), as well as other viral infections are known to cause lots of life-long heart problems in many of those who survived them, myocarditis included.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Could the EU just take up the funding gap for the WHO? It would make logical sense to keep it functioning and away from this political crazy stuff at the moment.

    It’s not actually very much money in the big scheme of things.


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