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The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Sunak has been good in fairness. But boy, it's one hell of a low bar being set there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    It is clear Prof Leitch (who actually comes across well) was a knee jerk response to the overnight story. He should keep stum until he has researched it a bit more


    I see no reason why he would be sticking to the UK government line seeing that he has been working for the Scottish government since 2007. So its not like he was a Labour or Tory appointment and is out to embarrass the SNP. Maybe he just thought the story is so outrages that it couldn't possibly be true. Why would care homes in Scotland be turned down to buy PPE from an English company?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    This virus could bring the tories down if it transpires they've lied about various things. I'd like to think they have to face justice if that is the case.

    Well, they lied about the ventilators. Just for a start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    This virus could bring the tories down if it transpires they've lied about various things. I'd like to think they have to face justice if that is the case.
    The Tories are most definitely going down for this, worst recession in 300 years should see to that if their lies about the virus doesn't.

    Throw brexit on top of all that, well done boris


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    This is a follow up to the BBC article from a few pages ago about a day in the life of a EMS worker in New York.

    https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1250158374605348864?s=20

    So they think there is an additional 3700 people in New York that has died from Covid-19 that wasn't registered as such and will be including those in their numbers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Sunak has been good in fairness. But boy, it's one hell of a low bar being set there.

    He appears much better than the others, but TBH he is getting away with it too.

    Due to the crisis, his and the governments, complete u-turn on austerity and social spending has been just let go as if perfectly normal. No issue with the decisions they have made, but why they sudden about face?

    His time of scrutiny will come after the health crisis starts to pass and people start to question where all the money came from and so suddenly and why such a uturn. Then we can judge him properly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Sunak has been good in fairness. But boy, it's one hell of a low bar being set there.
    fair point, but they are going to have to sent him out everyday to have any chance of getting the public back onside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    He appears much better than the others, but TBH he is getting away with it too.

    Due to the crisis, his and the governments, complete u-turn on austerity and social spending has been just let go as if perfectly normal. No issue with the decisions they have made, but why they sudden about face?

    His time of scrutiny will come after the health crisis starts to pass and people start to question where all the money came from and so suddenly and why such a uturn. Then we can judge him properly


    He is going to have to make tough choices after the crises is done as their debt would have increased and they will have to cut again somewhere. It is going to be tough to tell people that you cannot reverse the austerity you said you were going to and they will have to tighten their belts again for another undetermined time to pay for this.

    Add in the end of the transition period and who knows how bad it is going to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    He appears much better than the others, but TBH he is getting away with it too.

    Due to the crisis, his and the governments, complete u-turn on austerity and social spending has been just let go as if perfectly normal. No issue with the decisions they have made, but why they sudden about face?

    His time of scrutiny will come after the health crisis starts to pass and people start to question where all the money came from and so suddenly and why such a uturn. Then we can judge him properly

    Agree 1,000%. All he's doing pretty much is offering a basic competence and slickness you dont get from the others. Well, gove maybe, but he's too slick by half in my book, shifty. Sunak probably offers reassurance but its really only superficial. I mean, there are rational people actually saying, we need Johnson back to steady the ship. Boris Johnson, the guy whose "leadership" led them into this scandal. Thats basically where they're at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,062 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Some epic trolling here from, Rory Stewart?

    https://twitter.com/evanfanning/status/1250154528105803782?s=20

    So warning on the 12th March to shut down the schools and to go into lockdown. Also that experts are there to advise, it is up to Government to decide on that advice.

    Also, not all experts agree or you would have seen a harmonious plan all around the world to tackle the virus. But seeing as other countries are following slightly different paths it is clear the experts aren't in agreement. So why is the UK experts advising so differently than the other countries?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    Scotland:
    In hospital: 1,797
    In ICU: 211
    Total confirmed cases: 6,067 (+155) two areas still to give testing figures
    Total deaths with confirmed COVID-19: 575 (+9)

    As a matter of interest A Dub, what's the Scottish reaction to the way Boris's dealing with this crisis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Enzokk wrote: »
    Some epic trolling here from, Rory Stewart?

    https://twitter.com/evanfanning/status/1250154528105803782?s=20

    So warning on the 12th March to shut down the schools and to go into lockdown. Also that experts are there to advise, it is up to Government to decide on that advice.

    Also, not all experts agree or you would have seen a harmonious plan all around the world to tackle the virus. But seeing as other countries are following slightly different paths it is clear the experts aren't in agreement. So why is the UK experts advising so differently than the other countries?
    britian missed out on a real leader in Rory Steward, he always seemed to have peoples interest at heart, didn't stand a chance of winning the Tory leadership race.
    I often wondered how he would have done in the labour party?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Enzokk wrote: »
    Some epic trolling here from, Rory Stewart?

    https://twitter.com/evanfanning/status/1250154528105803782?s=20

    So warning on the 12th March to shut down the schools and to go into lockdown. Also that experts are there to advise, it is up to Government to decide on that advice.

    Also, not all experts agree or you would have seen a harmonious plan all around the world to tackle the virus. But seeing as other countries are following slightly different paths it is clear the experts aren't in agreement. So why is the UK experts advising so differently than the other countries?


    I hadn't seen that interview before.
    I think we would have all been much better off today had that fella been in charge.

    Maybe your man isn't a genius or anything but Jesus, the contrast with the buffoons who apparently are making the decisions over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,452 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    As a matter of interest A Dub, what's the Scottish reaction to the way Boris's dealing with this crisis?
    There are two competing ways in Scotland to deal with this 1. Keep the UK approach at all costs 2. Deviate from UK approach where necessary. The all UK approach has meant that Scotlands politicians and sceientific advisors are mirroring the UK approach eg seemed to suggest the herd immunity early on.

    Folk I know are generally dismissive of Johnston and have not changed their view. In fact some of them openly question if he really had the virus as it was a little bit too convienent for him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The Tories are most definitely going down for this, worst recession in 300 years should see to that if their lies about the virus doesn't.

    Throw brexit on top of all that, well done boris

    No one is going to hold that to their head! It might become a feature only if the recovery period is considered to have been poorly handled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    There are two competing ways in Scotland to deal with this 1. Keep the UK approach at all costs 2. Deviate from UK approach where necessary. The all UK approach has meant that Scotlands politicians and sceientific advisors are mirroring the UK approach eg seemed to suggest the herd immunity early on.

    Folk I know are generally dismissive of Johnston and have not changed their view. In fact some of them openly question if he really had the virus as it was a little bit too convienent for him
    Brits will soon forget his plucky battle with covid19, the Tory press have started turning on the government, big mistakes made, lying about total number of deaths, people in care homes abandoned, worst recession ever, borris is finished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    No one is going to hold that to their head! It might become a feature only if the recovery period is considered to have been poorly handled.
    when everything that can go wrong does go wrong people will look to blame someone, the Tories no longer have the safety net of blaming the EU, so its boris to hang


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    borris is finished
    With an 80 seat majority and no need for an election until almost 2025? He's safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    PommieBast wrote: »
    With an 80 seat majority and no need for an election until almost 2025? He's safe.
    not when his people turn on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    PommieBast wrote: »
    With an 80 seat majority and no need for an election until almost 2025? He's safe.
    Watch the British news lads, theres going to be hell to pay after this


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    britian missed out on a real leader in Rory Steward, he always seemed to have peoples interest at heart, didn't stand a chance of winning the Tory leadership race.
    I often wondered how he would have done in the labour party?
    Have you seen the state of the British Labour party ! ! Jesus with the help of miracles from God could not save the British Labour Party ! !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    Brits will soon forget his plucky battle with covid19, the Tory press have started turning on the government, big mistakes made, lying about total number of deaths, people in care homes abandoned, worst recession ever, borris is finished

    His plucky battle with covid19????

    He picked up covid19 because he was a ****ing idiot going around shaking hands with hospital patients. Nearly killed himself and his endangered his colleagues and pregnant fiancé whilst doing so??

    Nothing plucky about that all.

    I'm really beginning to wonder if the Brits are getting the stupidity virus from the americans when it comes to Boris.

    I mean the headline on Friday was "This is A Good Friday" because Boris was better, never mind that they hit more daily deaths than any other European county in the same day!!!!! Is there genuinely some drug going out there that's dumbing the people down??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    blinding wrote: »
    Absolutely Crazy that Countries have not kept a Capability to produce their own Medical Standard PPE.

    A country like Ireland simply couldn't compete with a country like China on PPE manufacturing.

    The EU needs to designate stuff like PPE as a geo-strategic issue and use protectionism to grow a native-to-the-EU PPE industry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    A country like Ireland simply couldn't compete with a country like China on PPE manufacturing.

    The EU needs to designate stuff like PPE as a geo-strategic issue and use protectionism to grow a native-to-the-EU PPE industry.
    The Price of everything and the Value of Nothing :eek::eek:

    Yet another fook up by the Most Glorious Eu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Schrodinger's EU. It's a globalist conspiracy and a protectionist racket all at once.

    tenor.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    not when his people turn on him
    As much as I hate him there are plenty of vested interests who will still want to keep him in place.

    The EU needs to designate stuff like PPE as a geo-strategic issue and use protectionism to grow a native-to-the-EU PPE industry.
    ..or at least maintain emergency stocks. I have read reports that China went on a PPE buying spree before it went public about the outbreak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    blinding wrote: »
    Have you seen the state of the British Labour party ! ! Jesus with the help of miracles from God could not save the British Labour Party ! !
    no ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    blinding wrote: »
    The Price of everything and the Value of Nothing :eek::eek:

    Yet another fook up by the Most Glorious Eu.
    Its not like britian didn't **** up on ppe


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Its not like britian didn't **** up on ppe
    Too long in the Eu , Obviously. What a failed experiment that turned out to be for the British.

    We see in these times how important it is to run your own country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    blinding wrote: »
    Too long in the Eu , Obviously. What a failed experiment that turned out to be for the British.

    We see in these times how important it is to run your own country.

    Ahh yes its the EUs fault the UK forgot to read their emails which is why they didn't have enough PPE, also don't forget to blame the doctors for using too much of it as well as the competitive market for procuring it....

    You know what they should try buying it as a larger collective group, that might make it cheaper and easier.... Ohh wait


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