Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

smelly sock wrote: »

Imho as every day passes the lockdown seems to be overly severe and draconian.

I cant see the benefit to anyone but a few of extending it like the Tshock did. It smacks of them not knowing what to do next.

Some of the dooms day preppers on here are hard at the thought of the economy and peoples lives going to ****e.

This needs to be lifted and restrictions phased down.

Its absolutely and over reaction to something which affects a tiny number of people in reality yet the measure imposed are indirectly destroying peoples lives.

#liftthelockdown

Dont be a bellend ffs

smelly sock wrote: »

#liftthelockdown

#no

joe_99 wrote: »

Just remember there have been 9k deaths in Ireland since this began in January. 334 relate to Covid 19. It is a terrible situation we are in but people will continue to die for all sorts of reasons. It is the most fundamental part of life.

wakka12 wrote: »

That is ridiculous because COVID wasnt even here in January, so I have no idea why you would combine the total number of people who typically die within the months of January, February and March when COVID was only here for one of the three months. Surely you would just compare the 334 figure to the number who typically die in March, and in that case a pretty sizeable number of Irish people have died from this new virus in this given timeframe and it has caused a significant increase in national mortality rates over that period

6.5 deaths per 1,000 = 32,500 per annum for a population of 5million
= average of 2,708 per month
= 8,125 for three months


Joe99 is pretty much on the spot there!

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Ridiculous comment. Every imoorted case causes extra problems that we don't need. When you are fighting a fire the last thing you need is new fires and fuel on the fire.

Had the Irish government listened to those who said close down travel to hotspots early we'd be in a much better spot and might actually have been able to ease restrictions internally.

And quoting the WHO on borders? Seriously? The reason cv19 went from 1 case in China to infect almost every country in the world was a failure to ground flights in and out of hotspots quickly. Had that been done many countries would not have had to close down.

Its obvious the WHO are lackies of China and did their bidding.

I don’t understand the reluctance of people for us to close out borders. It’s bizarre. Obviously we wouldn’t be denying entry for Irish citizens, but there should be forced quarantine upon arrival. Our hotels are empty, and if the numbers are as low as people say they are, there shouldn’t be a capacity issue. The state could cover the cost for Irish citizens, but non Irish should cover their own cost. Obviously there will be essential workers coming into the country - both Irish and non Irish, and we could make exceptions for these people once they should their relevant papers/letters.

smelly sock wrote: »

My point is if the country enters into a another downturn it will cause more damage to families and codt more lives than covid.

Clearly you’ve not heard of the saying that your health is your wealth.

smelly sock wrote: »

My point is if the country enters into a another downturn it will cause more damage to families and codt more lives than covid.

really? how many deaths do you reckon?

i've seen this bandied about quite a bit but no one seems to have any actual figures. if your basis for relaxing a lockdown is to avoid recession related deaths you better be pretty damn sure of the maths.

DebDynamite wrote: »

I don’t understand the reluctance of people for us to close out borders. It’s bizarre. Obviously we wouldn’t be denying entry for Irish citizens, but there should be forced quarantine upon arrival. Our hotels are empty, and if the numbers are as low as people say they are, there shouldn’t be a capacity issue. The state could cover the cost for Irish citizens, but non Irish should cover their own cost. Obviously there will be essential workers coming into the country - both Irish and non Irish, and we could make exceptions for these people once they should their relevant papers/letters.

Let's look at what your purposing...

You want to close the borders, but not for Irish citizens, so the borders would be kinda be open. What do you do about Northern Ireland - are you going to put the Irish army on the border? Serious question there?

Hotels are empty - Who feeds the people staying in the hotel - do the workers in the hotel now have to stay in isolation for the entire time so not to pass on any potential infection into the community?

You want to make some exceptions for people, if they have the correct papers - so your happy for these people not to be quarantined.

Like your logic makes no sense, given there are so few coming into the country in the first place, and those who are, are more than likely isolating anyway.

There have been a few "social media" folk, who arrived home in Ireland in the last 2 week and you see the flights and airports are empty and that they go into isolation - rent an air bnb somewhere and stay there for 2 weeks.

It's all well and good to say close this airport and that - but when the government are introducing the 2km restriction for Irish people, people are complaining on here, and wanting to visit folk 100km away.

Dozyart wrote: »

Dont be a bellend ffs

You might be asking a bit much there

Tandey wrote: »

And logical.

I wouldn't say a poster who does not wash his socks would have health as top priority to be fair.

smelly sock wrote: »

So people cant afford healthcare, food ,fuel amd bills.

80 per cent will have mild symptoms. Lets wisen up here. The restrictions should be eased.

Ye very logical.

How much does it cost patients of the Covid?

Logical people save for a rainy day.

Have you heard of the €350 for workers affected by this?
Have you heard that the fuel allowance for those in need has been extended?