Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

ACitizenErased · 12-04-2020 05:59PM

Seamai wrote: »

Yes I think that's the correct way to look at it by adding in the German figures first as they are older and then taking today's new figure as a percentage of this.

Exactly. They're old cases, and should be spread evenly over the previous weeks.

GeorgeBailey · 12-04-2020 05:59PM

KiKi III wrote: »

No one wants a never-ending lockdown

There's definitely some on here who get very excited at the idea of extended lockdowns and/or extended restrictions

easypazz · 12-04-2020 05:59PM

bekker wrote: »

It's a Bank Holiday week-end, deaths returned are usually anomalous at week-ends.

Testing is non-comparative, as Ireland's testing implementation is all over the place.

21 last Sunday.

BanditLuke · 12-04-2020 05:59PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

None of the 233 new cases in Singapore's resurgence are imported incidentally.

Really hope they get a grip on it there soon. The world needs hope.

Professor Moriarty · 12-04-2020 06:00PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

There's definitely some on here who get very excited at the idea of extended lockdowns and/or extended restrictions

Some on here are stupid.

easypazz · 12-04-2020 06:00PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Very encouraging numbers today, but one data point does not make a trend. If we see this repeated over the course of 7 days it would be cause for huge celebration.

No one wants a never-ending lockdown and your continued attempt to paint anyone who disagrees with you this way says a lot more about you than them.

Someone said earlier lockdown until vaccine.

bekker · 12-04-2020 06:00PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

None of the 233 new cases in Singapore's resurgence are imported incidentally.

Full context,

'While the number of cases in the community has increased following a wave of imported cases, there has been some moderation in recent days, in the light of the safe distancing measures that have been put in place, the ministry added.

The number of imported cases rose in the middle of last month due to the large number of returnees, but has since come down to zero, it said.

Among the new cases, 51 are linked to known clusters, 15 are linked to other cases, and 167 are pending contact tracing. None are imported cases.

Of the 167 pending contact tracing, 141 are work permit holders who are mostly residing in dormitories, work sites, and other living quarters, said MOH.

This brings the total number of cases to 2,532.'

Straits Times 12th April.

12-04-2020 06:01PM

bekker wrote: »

It's a Bank Holiday week-end, deaths returned are usually anomalous at week-ends.

Testing is non-comparative, as Ireland's testing implementation is all over the place.

Is there any reason for deaths being different on a weekend? Doesn't make any sense

anewme · 12-04-2020 06:01PM

easypazz wrote: »

Don't be saying that.

There are people on here who want to go all in on protecting people in nursing homes to the detriment of everything else.

What is the link between protecting people in nursing homes and increased calls to Pieta House.

I can’t believe what you have written here.

It’s horrible.

ninebeanrows · 12-04-2020 06:01PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

None of the 233 new cases in Singapore's resurgence are imported incidentally.

Let us hope it is not the virus reactivating.

Class MayDresser · 12-04-2020 06:01PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Clicked on rte news site to check for Irish figures and the headline is uk figures am I missing something here can ireland not focus on its own crisis instead of pushing uk to the fore.

This coverage is highly politicised.

Rte have a hard on for UK figures and updates since day 0. The amount of air time given to the NI and UK status is an embarrassment to the irish national broadcaster.

branie2 · 12-04-2020 06:01PM

May the fourteen people who died rest in peace

Quantum Erasure · 12-04-2020 06:02PM

will there be another spike in deaths reported on tuesday, or wednesday with the Bank Holiday?

BanditLuke · 12-04-2020 06:02PM

anewme wrote: »

What is the link between protecting people in nursing homes and increased calls to Pieta House.

I can’t believe what you have written here.

It’s horrible.

It's obvious what said poster is doing. Just leave him to it.

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-04-2020 06:03PM

The elderly deaths will hang over us like a black cloud for many years to come

After all their life struggles they deserved some peace in the end

RIP to them all

davemckenna25 · 12-04-2020 06:03PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

will there be another spike in deaths reported on tuesday, or wednesday with the Bank Holiday?

That's a good question however I can't answer you with any clarity until Wednesday evening.

Anything else is just a guess.

Micky 32 · 12-04-2020 06:04PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Statistics tend to remove the emotion out of what’s happening.

It would be like you telling me your wife, mom, sister , dad, brother died and I would shrug my shoulder and list them as a number then a person.

Eh?? Less people died today. You should be glad of that under these awful current circumstances. What is wrong with people on this forum ffs

pjohnson · 12-04-2020 06:04PM

anewme wrote: »

What is the link between protecting people in nursing homes and increased calls to Pieta House.

I can’t believe what you have written here.

It’s horrible.

Some peoples true colours are coming out. There are some detestable cretins in Ireland.

bekker · 12-04-2020 06:04PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I forgot people who are dying wait until after bank holidays.

Off course not, but the process of passing the data up the chain does in many cases.

Quantum Erasure · 12-04-2020 06:04PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

A note of caution on UK death figures produced over the bank holiday weekend where 737 new deaths were announced today...
This could be applied to a lot of places i'd have thought.

AdamD wrote: »

Is there any reason for deaths being different on a weekend? Doesn't make any sense

its the delayed reporting to the central office, and then for the stats to be collated and reported to the public the next day

RocketRaccoon · 12-04-2020 06:05PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The elderly deaths will hang over us like a black cloud for many years to come

After all their life struggles they deserved some peace in the end

RIP to them all

Completely unavoidable unfortunately.

As someone who lost an elderly family member, it has been hard to process but its not right to blame anyone in Ireland for this.

shinzon · 12-04-2020 06:05PM

easypazz wrote: »

Numbers not looking good for your never ending lockdown.

Cant exactly work you out easy or what exactly your proposing as regards handling this. If everything was opened up again what would the numbers be probably double triple what they are now.

Bigger picture is to flatten the curve as much as possible and to save as many as possible that's it that's all there is at the moment. We shall see what they say next on the 5th of May, there may come a time that yes we will have to live with the virus as we go on with our lives but that's not now, lets just do what were being asked to do and take the next steps whenever that is be it the 5th of May or after.

Shin

Rob A. Bank · 12-04-2020 06:05PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Mostly in the community.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12324356

Bad news from down the page in that link. Covid-19 is a stealth virus.

Covid-19 appears to be more contagious than initially thought. And more people than expected are carrying it without showing symptoms.

The US Centres for Disease Control (CDC) has published a report suggesting each Covid-19 carrier will likely infect five or six other people.

And the British Medical Journal has just published a study based on experience in Italy suggesting some 78 per cent of people with Covid-19 show no symptoms.

Together, these elements make the virus especially hard to contain. It also means a much higher level of vaccination would be needed before it can be choked.

About 85 per cent of any given population will have to have resistance before they can begin to go about 'normally', without offering a chance for the virus to spread.

The R0 is likely to be 5.7 and if 85% of the population needs to be immunized/infected, achieving the so called 'Herd Immunity' is that much more difficult to obtain.

This virus keeps throwing up nasty surprises.

Micky 32 · 12-04-2020 06:06PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

will there be another spike in deaths reported on tuesday, or wednesday with the Bank Holiday?

It may fluctuate a bit until the effects of the lockdown take hold.

Away With The Fairies · 12-04-2020 06:06PM

easypazz wrote: »

Numbers not looking good for your never ending lockdown.

Ah Jesus, give over.

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-04-2020 06:08PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Completely unavoidable unfortunately.

As someone who lost an elderly family member, it has been hard to process but its not right to blame anyone in Ireland for this.

Not blaming anyone it's nobody's fault

But I think this will be the overriding memory from all of this

expectationlost · 12-04-2020 06:08PM

where are all these new cases occuring? https://twitter.com/andyazi/status/1248209967611555840 https://twitter.com/TimoneyKevin/status/1248621741007458306

wakka12 · 12-04-2020 06:08PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

New York approaching 10,000 deaths

That is astoundingly high number of deaths. The population of New York state is just under 20 million, it is experiencing a death rate 50% higher thanItaly

For all the talk of Italy's old age..high pollution in the north lots of smokers etc blah blah being the cause of it's high death rates it clearly was not the main contributing reason. The average age in New York is just 32.8 years old, consideraly younger than any European country

Its looking like population density is the absolutely most crucial factor in the death rate outcome, with everything else a distant second

easypazz · 12-04-2020 06:09PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Ah Jesus, give over.

You are right.

I shouldn't be looking for positives here.

Quantum Erasure · 12-04-2020 06:10PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

For anyone here interested in maths or computer science, John Conway (of Game of Life fame) has died of COVID19.

RIP.

EDIT: I don't see it confirmed officially anywhere...

here he is talking about life, and death, a few years ago

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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