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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #1712
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Gonzo wrote: »
    They won't get to Portugal, most airlines (Ryanair, Easyjet) estimate that schedules may not restart till June 17th and that's only current guidance, could go on into July before planes are back up and running.

    They are off their rocker if they think they will be flying again anytime this summer. Without a vaccine airlines as we know them are finished for the foreseeable.


  • #1713
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
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    Brilliant :).

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #1714
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Instead of dying peacefully in their sleep after spending a long life working hard and raring their children including fcukwits like you, they are left gasping for breath while suffering from covid19. They deserve much better. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Most people are concerned about the fate of the elderly with the odd exception like you.

    In an ideal world everyone would die peacefully in their sleep like a Disney movie. But unfortunately this doesn't happen in the real world, there are thousands of different viruses and diseases which kill elderly people...even a small fall can kill an elderly person.


  • #1715
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Give over you hysterical sensationalist.

    What's hysterical about what he is saying?


  • #1716
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    The reason I asked is as follows.
    Friday night tubs and Amy huberman spent 20 minutes waffling about how important the whole social distancing was, and how it’s vital that we all stay at home.
    Fair enough so far yeah?
    “I hear you got a dog”says tubs to finish an already sh1te interview up.
    It’s not bad enough the late late insist on interviewing either Amy huberman or Brian o Driscoll once a week but now they are interviewing the fcukin dog.
    So away goes Amy and lands back with the dog and explains that the gardener and painter were holding the dog in the hall while the interview was on Incase it would bark.
    What’s the story with that?
    Tubs and huberman the 2 wafflers caught waffling.ye all stay home but we can carry on as normal.
    Do as I say and not as i do.
    Did anyone else see that farce?

    To be fair one of them should have explained the running joke that she refers to her husband as the painter/gardener but I think you are overly offended by a LLS segment. I found Amy discussing her worries having her Dad in a nursing home very interesting she also tried to keep positive and upbeat which I think most people appreciate.


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  • #1717
    Strumms
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    Pitch n Putt wrote: »

    Where we go now from here is anyone’s guess and how long it’s going to last we don’t know. It’s just a pity we couldn’t for once of had a strong leadership from someone to take a brave stance and step out and make a decision in time

    It’s a terrible indictment of the leadership, Varadkar in particular.

    When all the confetti has blown away, from the ‘ohh look aren’t we modern, we elected a homosexual to be our head of state’ party... what we actually elected was a bunch of horrid right wing fûckers who when they had opportunity and expert information to get ahead of this, be proactive, save lives, their major priority was enabling people who like to make money, to continue doing so... to hell with the wellbeing of the citizens of Ireland their priority is enabling the health and wellbeing of balance sheets.


  • #1718
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    anewme wrote: »
    What's hysterical about what he is saying?

    He is advocating for an indefinite lockdown.

    If we lockdown for any longer after the 5th of May a lot of people will have nothing to return too. That is a legitimate concern for many.

    What he is saying is manipulative.

    Im all for protecting the most at risk groups but destroying our economy isnt the way to do it.


  • #1719
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s a terrible indictment of the leadership, Varadkar in particular.

    When all the confetti has blown away, from the ‘ohh look aren’t we modern, we elected a homosexual to be our head of state’ party... what we actually elected was a bunch of horrid right wing fûckers who when they had opportunity and expert information to get ahead of this, be proactive, save lives, their major priority was enabling people who like to make money, to continue doing so... to hell with the wellbeing of the citizens of Ireland their priority is enabling the health and wellbeing of balance sheets.

    What's his sexuality got to do with it?


  • #1720
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    rosiem wrote: »
    To be fair one of them should have explained the running joke that she refers to her husband as the painter/gardener but I think you are overly offended by a LLS segment. I found Amy discussing her worries having her Dad in a nursing home very interesting she also tried to keep positive and upbeat which I think most people appreciate.

    I didn't see it but I didn't need it explained to me that the gardener wasn't really in the hall at 10pm on a Friday night.


  • #1721
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    easypazz wrote: »
    I didn't see it but I didn't need it explained to me that the gardener wasn't really in the hall at 10pm on a Friday night.

    it wasn't live - all of those are prerecorded segments


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  • #1722
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s a terrible indictment of the leadership, Varadkar in particular.

    When all the confetti has blown away, from the ‘ohh look aren’t we modern, we elected a homosexual to be our head of state’ party... what we actually elected was a bunch of horrid right wing fûckers who when they had opportunity and expert information to get ahead of this, be proactive, save lives, their major priority was enabling people who like to make money, to continue doing so... to hell with the wellbeing of the citizens of Ireland their priority is enabling the health and wellbeing of balance sheets.
    To be fair we didn't elect them, after the election they were in a position to do a deal with a hodgepodge collection of TDs to stay in power, and they're trying to pull a similar stunt now, this time with FF, and any other idiots that they can scrape together to hold the fig leaves in place.


  • #1723
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    smelly sock wrote: »
    He is advocating for an indefinite lockdown.

    If we lockdown for any longer after the 5th of May a lot of people will have nothing to return too. That is a legitimate concern for many.

    What he is saying is manipulative.

    Im all for protecting the most at risk groups but destroying our economy isnt the way to do it.

    I wouldn't be advocating lockdown infinitely either. Disaster economically. It's frustrating that people wont adhere to it now.

    But its certainly true that our elderly are suffering. Those who raised us. The situation in Nursing Homes is very serious and sad and not too far from what was described.


  • #1724
    KiKi III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    easypazz wrote: »
    If it goes on much longer the whole aviation industry may never recover.

    Airbus and Boeing will have no customers so what will happen them.

    But lots of people here want to grandstand that everything should be locked down indefinately to protect people in nursing homes.

    They’ll be bailed out, 100%.


  • #1725
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    anewme wrote: »
    I wouldn't be advocating lockdown infinitely either.

    But its certainly true that our elderly are suffering. Those who raised us. The situation in Nursing Homes is very serious.

    Nobody is denying the elderly are suffering, but the damage is already done, and moving on in 19 days won't undo it.


  • #1726
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    anewme wrote: »
    I wouldn't be advocating lockdown infinitely either.

    But its certainly true that our elderly are suffering. Those who raised us. The situation in Nursing Homes is very serious and sad and not too far from what was described.

    Put nursing homes in quarantine.


  • #1727
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s a terrible indictment of the leadership, Varadkar in particular.

    When all the confetti has blown away, from the ‘ohh look aren’t we modern, we elected a homosexual to be our head of state’ party... what we actually elected was a bunch of horrid right wing fûckers who when they had opportunity and expert information to get ahead of this, be proactive, save lives, their major priority was enabling people who like to make money, to continue doing so... to hell with the wellbeing of the citizens of Ireland their priority is enabling the health and wellbeing of balance sheets.

    Cheap dig having a go at his sexuality. Aside from that I agree with the rest. Australia didn't mess around with this virus and acted fast. They closed borders, implemented other measures, restrictions on home travels between the states, other measures. They have 46 covid deaths out from a population of 25 million.


  • #1728
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    easypazz wrote: »
    Nobody is denying the elderly are suffering, but the damage is already done, and moving on in 19 days won't undo it.

    Not moving on will only make it worse


  • #1729
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    easypazz wrote: »
    I didn't see it but I didn't need it explained to me that the gardener wasn't really in the hall at 10pm on a Friday night.

    I thought it was obvious also but was just taking into account that some people obviously believed it to be genuine and going by the post I responded to are quite worked up about it.


  • #1730
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Put nursing homes in quarantine.

    Theres been no visitors to my Dads since end Feb.

    Hopefully I'll get to see him again.


  • #1731
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Put nursing homes in quarantine.

    And continue to cocoon the old and vulnerable.


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  • #1732
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Strumms wrote: »

    we elected a homosexual to be our head of state... .

    Never knew that about Michael D.


    Sums up the rest of your ranting rubbish.


  • #1733
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,116 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    No one is arguing for an indefinite "lock down".

    But certain restrictions are going to be in place one way or another until a vaccine is developed.

    It won't be the same strict measures as now, I suspect we'll end up with openings and closures intermittently in specific areas of the economy.

    Use of public transport will be restricted (maybe only to those with masks), shopping will continue to be restricted by numbers, nursing homes might stay off limits...these sorts of things.

    People will be back to work but society won't be back to what we understand as normal for some time.

    Not only here, the world over.

    We have suffered a global shock that is going to take a lot of getting over.


  • #1734
    KiKi III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    easypazz wrote: »
    And continue to cocoon the old and vulnerable.

    This is not practical at all. It would be very difficult to put in place long term.

    And if it was possible, it’s pretty cruel.


  • #1735
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,749 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s a terrible indictment of the leadership, Varadkar in particular.

    When all the confetti has blown away, from the ‘ohh look aren’t we modern, we elected a homosexual to be our head of state’ party... what we actually elected was a bunch of horrid right wing fûckers who when they had opportunity and expert information to get ahead of this, be proactive, save lives, their major priority was enabling people who like to make money, to continue doing so... to hell with the wellbeing of the citizens of Ireland their priority is enabling the health and wellbeing of balance sheets.

    It's usually only horrid right wing fûckers who take the time to highlight someone's sexual orientation in a context where it is entirely and wholly unrelated..


  • #1736
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    easypazz wrote: »
    They will die far worse if there is no money.

    Like in Ecuador where they dump them on the street for collection.

    Or New York where they are buried in mass graves.

    But lets lockdown forever.

    Its quite simple.

    Had we locked down properly from the start, we'd be able to ease restrictions every so often for a couple of weeks.

    That's impossible now. Shambolic lockdown, testing and contact tracing means lockdown until vaccine.


  • #1737
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    No one is arguing for an indefinite "lock down".

    But certain restrictions are going to be in place one way or another until a vaccine is developed.

    It won't be the same strict measures as now, I suspect we'll end up with openings and closures intermittently in specific areas of the economy.

    Use of public transport will be restricted (maybe only to those with masks), shopping will continue to be restricted by numbers, nursing homes might stay off limits...these sorts of things.

    People will be back to work but society won't be back to what we understand as normal for some time.

    Not only here, the world over.

    We have suffered a global shock that is going to take a lot of getting over.

    There may never be a vaccine, this could be similar to a common cold issue. Except with worse effect


  • #1738
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Its quite simple.

    Had we locked down properly from the start, we'd be able to ease restrictions every so often for a couple of weeks.

    That's impossible now. Shambolic lockdown, testing and contact tracing means lockdown until vaccine.
    Apart from the fact that you've gotten everything wrong, you're right.


  • #1739
    rosiem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭rosiem


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s a terrible indictment of the leadership, Varadkar in particular.

    When all the confetti has blown away, from the ‘ohh look aren’t we modern, we elected a homosexual to be our head of state’ party... what we actually elected was a bunch of horrid right wing fûckers who when they had opportunity and expert information to get ahead of this, be proactive, save lives, their major priority was enabling people who like to make money, to continue doing so... to hell with the wellbeing of the citizens of Ireland their priority is enabling the health and wellbeing of balance sheets.

    I think you true agenda is shown no need to mention his sexuality here it has no relevance to the topic just shows you will exploit any situation to spew homophobia.


  • #1740
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Its quite simple.

    Had we locked down properly from the start, we'd be able to ease restrictions every so often for a couple of weeks.

    That's impossible now. Shambolic lockdown, testing and contact tracing means lockdown until vaccine.

    There will not be a lockdown until vaccine. Have you not read anything?
    I'll give you a direct quote from Harris,

    "In relation to the roadmap, there is going to be a point in this country where we will have to live alongside the virus, for want of a better phrase, where sadly people will still get sick and sadly some people will still die but it is at a rate that is sustainable for our doctors to manage,"

    That's clearly been the objective since the start, they wont be waiting for a vaccine. No country will be, it's not sustainable.

    Multiple airlines seem to be giving out the same date in June at the moment for resumption in europe, they've not all plucked that out of thin air, someone somewhere has given it to them.


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  • #1741
    kwestfan08
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    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Its quite simple.

    Had we locked down properly from the start, we'd be able to ease restrictions every so often for a couple of weeks.

    That's impossible now. Shambolic lockdown, testing and contact tracing means lockdown until vaccine.

    No there wont be lockdown until a vaccine. Why would you put out such scaremongering horse****.


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