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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #1592
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Call me Al wrote: »
    Sam McConkey on the radio there saying its usually 3 years for vaccine development, and that's what he thinks our country needs to prepare for..
    I'm broken after hearing it tbh.

    well plenty of companies working on vaccines and hopeful of one in the next 12 months and even earlier according to many reports. So let's be more optimistic than his particularly pessimistic view!


  • #1593
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    When isolation is over common colds and flu will be rampant. Would think peoples imune systems will be weak after weeks of isolation.


  • #1594
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Your It team could allow you remote access to that machine so that you could use that software from your laptop at home
    It’s built into windows 10

    You're correct of course, but many companies won't allow remote access to their systems like that unless they are dedicated work devices.


  • #1595
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Call me Al wrote: »
    Sam McConkey on the radio there saying its usually 3 years for vaccine development, and that's what he thinks our country needs to prepare for..
    I'm broken after hearing it tbh.

    That cannot happen, would kill far more than it would save in the long term. Already some area are seeing increased deaths due to heart attacks. Cancers will go untreated, mild or chronic issues will become life threatening. We have to plan to never have a vaccine, and put the necessary supports in place to treat the large numbers of people who will get it, like used to be the case with TB hospitals. The next few months of restrictions should be used to put those plans in place. After that we have to plan to return to normal. If the vaccine comes it’s a bonus


  • #1596
    Thestones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Thestones


    Are you allowed past 2km for a supermarket? There are nearer supermarkets within 2km to me but I can only get a click and collect witt one that is 4km away and I’d rather do that than go into a supermarket. If the guards stop me when I go to pick up will they let me continue if I show the order?


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  • #1597
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Thestones wrote: »
    Are you allowed past 2km for a supermarket? There are nearer supermarkets within 2km to me but I can only get a click and collect witt one that is 4km away and I’d rather do that than go into a supermarket. If the guards stop me when I go to pick up will they let me continue if I show the order?

    Yes.


  • #1598
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thestones wrote: »
    Are you allowed past 2km for a supermarket? There are nearer supermarkets within 2km to me but I can only get a click and collect witt one that is 4km away and I’d rather do that than go into a supermarket. If the guards stop me when I go to pick up will they let me continue if I show the order?

    Yes


  • #1599
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    According to the Sunday Times FFs Simon Donnelly says we have the 10th highest death rate in the world from Coronavirus. How did this happen?, haven’t seen this written about anywhere else.


  • #1600
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Thestones wrote: »
    Are you allowed past 2km for a supermarket? There are nearer supermarkets within 2km to me but I can only get a click and collect witt one that is 4km away and I’d rather do that than go into a supermarket. If the guards stop me when I go to pick up will they let me continue if I show the order?

    I would be very surprised if they didn't, I have found them very reasonable when I bumped into them.


  • #1601
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Thestones wrote: »
    Are you allowed past 2km for a supermarket? There are nearer supermarkets within 2km to me but I can only get a click and collect witt one that is 4km away and I’d rather do that than go into a supermarket. If the guards stop me when I go to pick up will they let me continue if I show the order?

    Well...I hope so! The very nearest small village shop to me is 8km away! :) Fancy Supermarkets are for special high festivals and blue moons.


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  • #1602
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    According to the Sunday Times FFs Simon Donnelly says we have the 10th highest death rate in the world from Coronavirus. How did this happen?, haven’t seen this written about anywhere else.

    It got into a large amount of nursing homes which is causing our figures to be high. Once the virus has burned out in those nursing homes our death rates should come way down.


  • #1603
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Saw a rake of people buying Easter eggs yesterday. Hardly essential. One person bought only Easter egg's, so the only reason for traveling was to buy non essential items. Disgraceful.

    Tesco filling up sections of thier shop with plants, fertilizer and gardening items, because the hardware shops are closed.

    We can all congregate in supermarkets and spread the virus, but can't go to a gardening center or hardware chain, or collect a trampoline bought on DoneDeal.

    This lockdown is farcical. Open the hardware stores, furniture shops, home appliance shops, etc. Open the building sites.

    All you need to close are pubs, restaurants, cinemas and tourists spots / beaches.


  • #1604
    zinfandel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭zinfandel


    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    When isolation is over common colds and flu will be rampant. Would think peoples imune systems will be weak after weeks of isolation.

    i think it will go the other way, cold and flu spreads the same way as the virus, we will all be much more hygiene conscious, the kids will be washing hands more, we wont be shaking hands and hugging everybody for a long time.


  • #1605
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Rvsmmnps wrote: »
    When isolation is over common colds and flu will be rampant. Would think peoples imune systems will be weak after weeks of isolation.

    Au contraire. People much more mindful of distancing and sanitisation now.


  • #1606
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    According to the Sunday Times FFs Simon Donnelly says we have the 10th highest death rate in the world from Coronavirus. How did this happen?, haven’t seen this written about anywhere else.

    Or you could check this out.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries


  • #1607
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,513 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Thestones wrote: »
    Are you allowed past 2km for a supermarket? There are nearer supermarkets within 2km to me but I can only get a click and collect witt one that is 4km away and I’d rather do that than go into a supermarket. If the guards stop me when I go to pick up will they let me continue if I show the order?

    Please keep your restrictions questions to The Restrictions Megathread

    EDIT: I've just moved a number of posts there


  • #1608
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    According to the Sunday Times FFs Simon Donnelly says we have the 10th highest death rate in the world from Coronavirus. How did this happen?, haven’t seen this written about anywhere else.

    Not comparing like with like.Other countries are not counting non hospital deaths and also being far more lax regarding cause of death.


  • #1609
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    rafatoni wrote: »
    After seeing his easter message and he said peak was end of Month, i am guessing lockdown wont be lifted after May bank holiday.

    I thought they said peak would be this wknd 2 weeks ago.


    It's two weeks for everything: the peak, where we are in comparison to Italy, where the US is in comparison to everyone else.


    To be fair, I guess it's difficult to predict anything with this virus.


  • #1610
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    The overall trend is rising though week on week and I think thats probably the only way you can judge this.

    In this case if you take the "longer time frame" you are distorting the figures because we started off with 1 death and hit 36 and now are 33. Clearly the trend is up from the beginning, but when a trend starts to reverse the likelihood is it will continue to do so, so a more recent trend is useful.

    The stock market is down at the moment but it is up from 2010. Which one is more useful for investors?


  • #1611
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,670 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    well plenty of companies working on vaccines and hopeful of one in the next 12 months and even earlier according to many reports. So let's be more optimistic than his particularly pessimistic view!

    Companies will say a lot of things. Realistically any vaccine is going to take a good period of time. There are so many uncertainties with this virus and are learning every day about it. Not to mention how it might mutate.


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  • #1612
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Au contraire. People much more mindful of distancing and sanitisation now.


    And we'll be well out of cold and flu season by the time this ends (whenever that is).


  • #1613
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    doylefe wrote: »
    Saw a rake of people buying Easter eggs yesterday. Hardly essential. One person bought only Easter egg's, so the only reason for traveling was to buy non essential items. Disgraceful.

    Tesco filling up sections of thier shop with plants, fertilizer and gardening items, because the hardware shops are closed.

    We can all congregate in supermarkets and spread the virus, but can't go to a gardening center or hardware chain, or collect a trampoline bought on DoneDeal.

    This lockdown is farcical. Open the hardware stores, furniture shops, home appliance shops, etc. Open the building sites.

    All you need to close are pubs, restaurants, cinemas and tourists spots / beaches.

    Apart from the rest of your rant, plenty of posters on here working on building sites were calling for them to be closed due to the fact that they can't distance safety on them.

    Tesco always have gardening stuff this time of year same with a lot of other supermarkets.


  • #1614
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That cannot happen, would kill far more than it would save in the long term. Already some area are seeing increased deaths due to heart attacks. Cancers will go untreated, mild or chronic issues will become life threatening. We have to plan to never have a vaccine, and put the necessary supports in place to treat the large numbers of people who will get it, like used to be the case with TB hospitals. The next few months of restrictions should be used to put those plans in place. After that we have to plan to return to normal. If the vaccine comes it’s a bonus

    We can't live with this level of restrictions for three years. And we won't.

    The question is what could we do for three years, if that's how long it takes. I suspect the vaccine will be a lot faster to market than a typical vaccine given the sheer importance of it.


  • #1615
    KiKi III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    doylefe wrote: »
    Saw a rake of people buying Easter eggs yesterday. Hardly essential. One person bought only Easter egg's, so the only reason for traveling was to buy non essential items. Disgraceful.

    Tesco filling up sections of thier shop with plants, fertilizer and gardening items, because the hardware shops are closed.

    We can all congregate in supermarkets and spread the virus, but can't go to a gardening center or hardware chain, or collect a trampoline bought on DoneDeal.

    This lockdown is farcical. Open the hardware stores, furniture shops, home appliance shops, etc. Open the building sites.

    All you need to close are pubs, restaurants, cinemas and tourists spots / beaches.

    How long have you been an epidemiologist yourself?


  • #1616
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Well...I hope so! The very nearest small village shop to me is 8km away! :) Fancy Supermarkets are for special high festivals and blue moons.

    Ye ordering your dildos online then?


  • #1617
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,185 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Achasanai wrote: »
    And we'll be well out of cold and flu season by the time this ends (whenever that is).

    Or we’ll be into a new cold and flu season........


  • #1618
    KiKi III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    That cannot happen, would kill far more than it would save in the long term. Already some area are seeing increased deaths due to heart attacks. Cancers will go untreated, mild or chronic issues will become life threatening. We have to plan to never have a vaccine, and put the necessary supports in place to treat the large numbers of people who will get it, like used to be the case with TB hospitals. The next few months of restrictions should be used to put those plans in place. After that we have to plan to return to normal. If the vaccine comes it’s a bonus

    The word fearmongering has been thrown around a lot the last few weeks but this post is the absolute height of it.

    Where in the name of Beyoncé did you get the idea that doctors are going to stop treating cancer patients?


  • #1619
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    According to the Sunday Times FFs Simon Donnelly says we have the 10th highest death rate in the world from Coronavirus. How did this happen?, haven’t seen this written about anywhere else.

    1 in 15000, hardly spectacular for one of the worst countries


  • #1620
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Call me Al wrote: »
    Sam McConkey on the radio there saying its usually 3 years for vaccine development, and that's what he thinks our country needs to prepare for..
    I'm broken after hearing it tbh.

    Some people still think they'll be going to Albruferia in July.

    A lot still in the denial stage.


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  • #1621
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,185 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    gabeeg wrote: »
    We can't live with this level of restrictions for three years. And we won't.

    The question is what could we do for three years, if that's how long it takes. I suspect the vaccine will be a lot faster to market than a typical vaccine given the sheer importance of it.

    And what about the long term side effects (if there were to be any) of this rushed in vaccine? Do you think a company is going to leave itself open to being sued due to long term side effects there may be, that the company didn’t pick up on because they rushed through the vaccine?


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