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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    shinzon wrote: »
    I hope this was a bit of trolling tbh, why was it absolutely necessary for him to travel to buy a ****ing trampoline.

    Shin

    Maybe went to crescent to buy groceries and picked up a trampoline in Argos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Blazer wrote: »
    Supervalu are keeping their stores open today on Easter Sunday.
    What a shower of greedy ****s. Even Dunnes are closing.

    What is your problem? As it goes I need milk, they have been opening Easter Sunday since I can remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,408 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    fits wrote: »
    Quote: Stheno


    https://www.bbc.com/ne...d-us-canada-52196815

    Diary of on New York paramedic

    12 deaths in one day that he attributes to Covid, neither hospitalised or tested - note the report is upsetting.


    That’s awful to read. There are reports of similar happening here too.
    Where are the reports about the same happening here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭MintyMagnum


    Also, the stupidity of guards stopping cars without a mask and talking to people. Do they not realise you can have this virus without any symptoms?

    I've seen some use the passenger side to talk at some bit of a distance, talking down to someone's face at the driver's side is a recipe for disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Also, the stupidity of guards stopping cars without a mask and talking to people. Do they not realise you can have this virus without any symptoms?

    They are not allowed wear them.

    Not their fault TBF.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,408 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    easypazz wrote: »
    Maybe went to crescent to buy groceries and picked up a trampoline in Argos?
    They would be doing well considering all the Argos stores here are closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    easypazz wrote: »
    Maybe went to crescent to buy groceries and picked up a trampoline in Argos?

    There are plenty of grocery shops in Nenagh. There is no need for any one to drive from Nenagh to limerick to shop for groceries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,576 ✭✭✭JTMan


    The main story in the UK Sunday Times here is about how the NHS contact tracing app, using the Google and Apple technology, is viewed as the way out of the crisis. People who download the app, and do not have a positive contact match, would be allowed to resume normal life. For the app to be a success 60% of people need to download it.

    Hopefully the HSE are working with Apple and Google to develop a similar app.

    I can see pubs etc having to check that you have the app and are negative in the app before you are allowed enter the establishment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    These a sentiment out there that we are doing great as a country. The figures dont really bear that out. We are up there with the worst in the world. Especially when you consider numbers per million. Have a look at the streets of Italy or Spain, only pegions on the streets. Our streets are full of people exercising.

    And forever more will I know them as peg-ions :) I prefer that name now.

    Some people might like this. (Oh, I know not all of y'all...:) ) I might tune in for a little while. Bocelli live streaming from the spectacular Duomo de Milano, 6pm this evening.

    https://twitter.com/AndreaBocelli/status/1248207558885720065?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭Jizique


    gmisk wrote: »
    Where are the reports about the same happening here?

    The internet; 5G; Gemma etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Ohmeha wrote: »
    Afaik Tesco are open aswell

    Then why is this thread concentrating on Supervalu, if Tesco are also guilty of opening on Easter Sundsy :cool:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,314 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Also, the stupidity of guards stopping cars without a mask and talking to people. Do they not realise you can have this virus without any symptoms?
    Well M they like everyone else have been told they're useless, even a negative, by the same "experts" who brought you such highly intelligent gems as: "It's alright to visit your granny in a car home" and "people coming home from hotspots in Europe will be grand" and "asymptomatic spread is of little risk when living with a Covid contact person" and "we're on top of testing". So I'm hardly surprised.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    What's the harm in a man going to buy a trampoline? Probably a private sale. Could easily not come in contact with anyone for the duration of the trip.

    I've a few game consoles to sell. Great time to put up on DoneDeal. High demand, low supply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    You forgot that you can stand 2 metres away from a person with covid for 14 minutes and 59 seconds and be grand. :D We had posters actually suggesting that in black and white all over site. HSE posters. The 15 minute window of miraculous protection.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    doylefe wrote: »
    What's the harm in a man going to buy a trampoline? Probably a private sale. Could easily not come in contact with anyone for the duration of the trip.

    Non-essential journey to collect a non-essential item well beyond the 2km threshold. It isn't difficult to comprehend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    doylefe wrote: »
    What's the harm in a man going to buy a trampoline? Probably a private sale. Could easily not come in contact with anyone for the duration of the trip.

    I've a few game consoles to sell. Great time to put up on DoneDeal. High demand, low supply.

    If you have to ask that you really should have a read through the list of restrictions that have been brought in. 2k radius for exercise, only other trips for food, medicine or the care of others. It's really quite easy to understand why buying a trampoline online doesn't fit into those criteria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    sideswipe wrote: »
    If you have to ask that you really should have a read through the list of restrictions that have been brought in. 2k radius for exercise, only other trips for food, medicine or the care of others. It's really quite easy to understand why buying a trampoline online doesn't fit into those criteria.

    He understands perfectly well, he’s just happy to assume the rules don’t apply to him if there’s a few quid to be made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    We're actually a nation of morons who think we're loved all over the world.

    We aren't and we are selfish ****ers pampered for too long.

    Hysterical generalizing rubbish. Speak for yourself.
    Vast majority are being responsible. There are a minority of morons. Every country will have them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    doylefe wrote: »
    What's the harm in a man going to buy a trampoline? Probably a private sale. Could easily not come in contact with anyone for the duration of the trip.

    I've a few game consoles to sell. Great time to put up on DoneDeal. High demand, low supply.

    What about the person he's buying the trampoline off?

    This is exactly how this virus is spreading. You just don't know who has it. And off you go to buy a trampoline of ONE person. It's just one person, it's low risk... Except you don't know if they have the virus or not.

    Leaves the house with the new trampoline and a virus to spread to his family.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Clearly the restrictions are needlessly draconian, and arbitrary. No difference driving to your closest supermarket vs driving a longer distance.

    Nobody has defined what essential items are. Maybe a trampoline is essential to this man.

    When you go grocery shopping, are you only putting essential items in your basket? I doubt it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Not sure if this has been posted yet, really good thread comparing us with UK

    https://twitter.com/laineydoyle/status/1249127908876128259?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    doylefe wrote: »
    Clearly the restrictions are needlessly draconian, and arbitrary. No difference driving to your closest supermarket vs driving a longer distance.

    Nobody has defined what essential items are. Maybe a trampoline is essential to this man.

    When you go grocery shopping, are you only putting essential items in your basket? I doubt it.

    Yes, clearly they are. It's not you that's mistaken, its everybody else that's out of step.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    What about the person he's buying the trampoline off?

    This is exactly how this virus is spreading. You just don't know who has it. And off you go to buy a trampoline of ONE person. It's just one person, it's low risk... Except you don't know if they have the virus or not.

    Leaves the house with the new trampoline and a virus to spread to his family.

    You don't have to go hugging the person you're buying from. Arrange it to keep physical distance. Pay online (instant money transfer) or leave cash in a box. The item can be left out for you to pick up. Use gloves while handling it. Disinfect it when home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Also, the stupidity of guards stopping cars without a mask and talking to people. Do they not realise you can have this virus without any symptoms?

    I can just imagine the corona cloud that might escape from the passenger window from an infected persons car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,457 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    A trampoline an essential item?

    Fúck me, are people drinking cans all ready?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    doylefe wrote: »
    Clearly the restrictions are needlessly draconian, and arbitrary. No difference driving to your closest supermarket vs driving a longer distance.

    Nobody has defined what essential items are. Maybe a trampoline is essential to this man.

    When you go grocery shopping, are you only putting essential items in your basket? I doubt it.

    Hmmm....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    doylefe wrote: »
    Clearly the restrictions are needlessly draconian, and arbitrary. No difference driving to your closest supermarket vs driving a longer distance.

    Nobody has defined what essential items are. Maybe a trampoline is essential to this man.

    When you go grocery shopping, are you only putting essential items in your basket? I doubt it.

    You are missing the point- this is about a United front, all shoulders to the wheel to reduce the risk of infection, flatten the curve and get back to some form of normality earlier.
    One lad decides a trampoline is essential and drives to another county, longer journey more chance of having an accident ete etc.
    Somebody else decides a new puppy is essential and drives twice as far to answer a done deal ad. Somebody else thinks I haven’t seen my parents down in cork for 5 weeks sure I’ll go for a spin and stand in the garden for a chat. All of a sudden you have lots of people not putting their shoulder to the wheel the risks of invention, road accidents etc increase and we end up taking longer to get where we need to be as a country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Not sure if this has been posted yet, really good thread comparing us with UK

    https://twitter.com/laineydoyle/status/1249127908876128259?s=21

    Not sure what she doesn't understand. Uk went down herd immunity route and allowed big soccer games and Cheltenham go ahead. Those decisions account for their high numbers. They don't even incluse those who die in nursing homes or at home. In reality there's probably close to 2 million cases in the UK going by a 1% fatality rate.

    Our deaths have been relatively small but we are also not getting our cases under control. Italy has it down to about 5% increase per day and we'd need to be down at that level too.

    People saying we are doing well with a 7 or 8% increase ignore the fact this means new cases are still massive.

    Plus we will continue to see newly imported cases from the UK. There were 9 million visitors to Ireland last year. So if thats down 95% this year that still means 450,000 coming in, perhaps 2/3rds or 300,000 coming from the UK as its closest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Also, the stupidity of guards stopping cars without a mask and talking to people. Do they not realise you can have this virus without any symptoms?

    It’s just typical Irish reaction. Ah Shur we’ll go through the motions and make it look like were doing a great job. Guards leaning in to drivers windows should be a no no.

    I think we are gone well past the contact tracing stage and it’s ridiculous how can you contact trace the 500 plus positive results that came back from Germany ten day after the test was carried out ?

    How many people have these people been in contact with through work or supermarkets etc.

    We need another plan - Stepping up testing is fine but not worth a jot if these results take 7-10 days to get results

    That’s just going to mean a rolling two weeks extension on our current restrictions.

    We’re never going to get ahead if we stay behind!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    JTMan wrote: »
    The main story in the UK Sunday Times here is about how the NHS contact tracing app, using the Google and Apple technology, is viewed as the way out of the crisis. People who download the app, and do not have a positive contact match, would be allowed to resume normal life. For the app to be a success 60% of people need to download it.

    Hopefully the HSE are working with Apple and Google to develop a similar app.

    I can see pubs etc having to check that you have the app and are negative in the app before you are allowed enter the establishment.

    Thanks but no thanks. We don't need our betters spying on our every movement more than they already are. This virus will pass in a month or two and we can get back to living a normal life again. Anyone who thinks we need an App or the government tracking our every move to get past this needs to have a look at how the majority of governments across the world behave when they have such powers.

    Anyway, I don't think we need to worry about that here. The HSE can't seem to manage more than 1000 tests a day despite telling us 3 weeks ago we could be getting 15000 a day.

    On a slightly different note it is about time that people could access their medical records online. We can do it with banking, revenue and a whole raft of other things yet something as important as ones health is completely overlooked.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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