Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

they were mostly workers, i think. probably enjoyed a beer at the weekent too though...

Maryanne40 wrote: »

I've been following the thread from the start but haven't posted before....however I have to come in about all the comparisons. First of all it's not a competition between countries. If anyone is doing well it's a bonus!

But I find it very hard to read the posts predicting doom and gloom for Ireland and almost revelling in how badly we are (supposedly) doing. You can't compare apples with oranges. Every country seems to be collating their numbers differently so comparisons are meaningless.

And as if to prove my point there is a report on Sky at the moment about the fact that deaths in nursing homes in the UK are NOT being included in their stats and that today alone 'dozens' of deaths occurred in those settings.

Someone said earlier that they would be interested to know where Ecuador sits on those graphs.....and I would too. I'd be curious to see India/Africa/other south American countries stats too. But do you really think that countries where there are bodies piling up on the streets have the time and the inclination to work out those numbers.... so those graphs are next to valueless....yet if you read one particular poster here, according to the numbers there, we are on course to have the highest mortality rate in the world! Complete rubbish and wanton scaremongering.

It also bothers me when posters talk about how wretched we are as a people, unable to do this, that and the other...whether it be observe the lockdown, conduct the number of tests we need, source PPE etc etc etc. Talk about negative. I hear the exact same reports emanating from other countries. What about focusing on the positive...the number of people who volunteered, the number of contributions to the feed the heroes campaign, the vast majority of the population who are adhering to the lockdown conditions...what about all that?

And when all is said and done, all anybody can do is look after themselves and their physical and mental health as best they can. And I can tell you, coming on here and spreading negativity will do you (and others) no good at all!!!

Wombatman wrote: »

No. We simply run out of people.

Wombatman wrote: »

In theory we have no idea if it did or didn't, or at what rate because of testing limitations. No country followed a purely mathematical exponential growth. It's not realistic.

Is Sweden following exponential growth?

caveat emptor wrote: »

Initially I was terrified what would happen if we didn't bring in restrictions. We managed to bring them in but it was always slightly after the fact.
I've been impressed with how society are rallying around vulnerable but if I look at the situation coldly I'm not so happy. At every step there has been people on here doing their best to raise awareness fighting pitched battles with the wilfully ignorant. It's great to see so many like minded people on here but I've spent most of my time pointing out utter horsesho!t written by people who are clearly working for some vested interest in a volunteer or professional capacity.

• cancel the match / parade => leave pubs open so people travelled anyway
• open glamour testing centres => no possibility of processing them => massive testing backlog to this way
• transparency through obfuscation => It should not take that long to explain a number
• Proper PPE for front-line staff => highest rate of HCW infected AFIK (as a percentage of total cases) All you need to do is compare how our staff look compared to other countries to know we were given run around.
• Talking AROUND numbers has turned into a national sport
• Nursing home situation needs investigation. God knows how many people who could have pulled through were signed away by well wishing family who stood to gain financially. Horrible to think but I've seen this first hand with family and houses.

I wasn't surprised in the least that extensions were extended. I'm still not happy about not having a clear exit strategy. Strategy has been weak throughout. We were more concerned with cowing EU, vintners , Bord failte than getting ahead of this curve.

Getting to the stage of just getting on with the new reality. This will be hear for a very long time if the whole international community doesn't work together. Best just get used to new normal and keep yourself and loved ones happy and safe.

Happy Saturday.