Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

poppers · 11-04-2020 08:41PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

They're definitely not useless.

You do as you please, don't tell others how to view the stats on this.

If you don't like the deaths per capita comparison with other countries, then ignore them. That's your prerogative.

I won't be ignoring them though. Because I don't hide from reality, and cherry pick the stats that make me feel better.

Head in the sand stuff from many around here!

Uk only report hospital deaths. Usa same i think.
Apparently Germany were not counting people dieing with underlining conditions. So unless everyone is counting the same stat then its meaningless to compare.

rosiem · 11-04-2020 08:42PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

I can never understand how anyone can decide that someone is "worked up" by looking at words on a screen??

You know nothing about me, so don't presume that I am "worked up"... I am very calm and not really a worrier or someone with anxiety issues. But anyone who is not concerned about where we're headed, very much has their head in the sand right now!

Perhaps you and others are not worked up enough, about our current death toll... which is very high compared with many other countries. Perhaps you have become desensitized to the large amount of deaths we are experiencing??

You appear to be worked up from your angry responses is all. I was genuinely trying to say take a break and look at the important stats you are focusing on the wrong numbers.

Mine was a genuine response to someone who I obviously thought appeared to be over anxious but it appears I was wrong you now want me to get worked up and accuse me of becoming desensitised instead of just rationally reading all the data.

owlbethere · 11-04-2020 08:42PM

Sean 18 wrote: »

Why can't the hse break down all the deaths in ages etc these deaths everyday there is no way these are just in their 70s and 80s I wonder how many Young healthy in Ireland are dying from this every day

This is frightening for me. 54% of the deaths is nursing homes. 46% is general population. That's of the death cases.

US2 · 11-04-2020 08:42PM

We are failing miserably. A month now since social distancing, pubs schools close and still increase in cases every night. We are on course to be the worst affected country in the world

mloc123 · 11-04-2020 08:43PM

US2 wrote: »

We are failing miserably. A month now since social distancing, pubs schools close and still increase in cases every night. We are on course to be the worst affected country in the world

:Rolleye:

Bridge93 · 11-04-2020 08:43PM

Don’t give oxygen to an oxygen thief. Ignore the obvious please people

Jim_Hodge · 11-04-2020 08:43PM

US2 wrote: »

Ireland has the 3rd highest death rate in the world per million people. You won't hear tony tell you that though.

Not remotely true. Plus, we are reporting all covid deaths, unlike many countries.

coastwatch · 11-04-2020 08:43PM

froog wrote: »

cause it's not true. we are 13th.

We're not even 13th.
Some countries are only reporting deaths is hospitals eg. UK, France.
We include deaths in all settings.
So far 29% of deaths in Ireland have not been in hospital.

Jim_Hodge · 11-04-2020 08:44PM

US2 wrote: »

We are failing miserably. A month now since social distancing, pubs schools close and still increase in cases every night. We are on course to be the worst affected country in the world

What perverse kick do you get from peddling this tripe?

US2 · 11-04-2020 08:44PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Don’t give oxygen to an oxygen thief. Ignore the obvious please people

We will need plenty oxygen when everyone on this island is suffering from covid. Wont be long now

owlbethere · 11-04-2020 08:45PM

realrebel wrote: »

My brother in law was in bergamo in italy in late jan and madrid in March
He was very sick when he came back and applied for a test
They came out to test him after about 10 days then he was waiting weeks for the result
Last Wednesday he got the results saying he was negative
Today they rang him back saying he is positive
You can make up this ****

How is your brother now?

Did he get sick coming home from Italy or from Spain?

declanflynn · 11-04-2020 08:46PM

US2 wrote: »

We are failing miserably. A month now since social distancing, pubs schools close and still increase in cases every night. We are on course to be the worst affected country in the world

What country are you talking about?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 11-04-2020 08:46PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Don’t ignore them so, do as you please. But don’t go around shouting them as if they’re some sort of watertight metric that can be accurately used to measure us to anyone else.

Stop telling people what to do!

Nobody's stats are "watertight" on this... there is too many unknowns right now.

But that doesn't mean we should ignore common metrics that we frequently use in everyday life for many other things... just because those particular stats don't give you the rose tinted image you and others are clearly searching for!

I look at all stats... I don't just cherry pick the one's that make me feel good.

Danzy · 11-04-2020 08:46PM

US2 wrote: »

We are failing miserably. A month now since social distancing, pubs schools close and still increase in cases every night. We are on course to be the worst affected country in the world

Come on, that's serious catastrophic thinking.

We'll have one of the smaller death rates by the end of it all.

Danzy · 11-04-2020 08:48PM

US2 wrote: »

We will need plenty oxygen when everyone on this island is suffering from covid. Wont be long now

Your poor sore toe.

Away With The Fairies · 11-04-2020 08:49PM

Wii776 wrote: »

I'm curious. How are they in anyway different? Person A has virus, passes to person B,C,D,E. They go on to pass it on etc. You can understand that, yes?
Why would the hypothetical person A on a plane or ferry in my example be any different ? Do you think that contact tracing will prevent spread? There are stories on these threads from people working in GP practices of Covid positive patients popping into shops and others of the travelling to post letters. Contact tracing is a nonsense.

Popping into shops and posting letters. This is exactly why we need isolation centers. People cannot be trusted to isolate at home.

11-04-2020 08:50PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Stop telling people what to do!

Nobody's stats are "watertight" on this... there is too many unknowns right now.

But that doesn't mean we should ignore common metrics that we frequently use in everyday life for many other things... just because those particular stats don't give you the rose tinted image you and others are clearly searching for!

I look at all stats... I don't just cherry pick the one's that make me feel good.

But its completly dishonest to compare statistics,not drawn from same base

Like saying 2 people smoked half box of fags,one box was 20,one was 30....headline is accurate,underlying data dishonest

Now,wheter claims uk and france not counting out of hospideal deaths etc is true idk....but i did read somewhere that 1 region in northern italy had 25K extra deaths compared to normal not listed as covid......idk if this true though

Bridge93 · 11-04-2020 08:50PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Stop telling people what to do!

Nobody's stats are "watertight" on this... there is too many unknowns right now.

But that doesn't mean we should ignore common metrics that we frequently use in everyday life for many other things... just because those particular stats don't give you the rose tinted image you and others are clearly searching for!

I look at all stats... I don't just cherry pick the one's that make me feel good.

Grand go on spreading your b****x scaremongering rubbish. It won’t affect me or the majority of rational people on here. Extrapolate whatever you want from uneven numbers that even you have admitted contain too many unknowns. But sure why let that stop you ranting and raving. Work away, you’re only fooling yourself

expectationlost · 11-04-2020 08:51PM

we need a breakdown of cases in the last week or two not the entire time

macmahon · 11-04-2020 08:52PM

kalkat2002 wrote: »

Good new is tomorrow forecast ,cloudy and rainy day

Great news. I have to lockdown this time of the year every year due to high pollen count. Off the charts today and moderate tomorrow.

Danzy · 11-04-2020 08:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But its completly dishonest to compare statistics,not drawn from same base

Like saying 2 people smoked half box of fags,one box was 20,one was 30....headline is accurate,underlying data dishonest

Now,wheter claims uk and france not counting out of hospideal deaths etc is true idk....but i did read somewhere that 1 region in northern italy had 25K extra deaths compared to normal not listed as covid......idk if this true though

Italy only tested those in hospital, people also died because the hospital system crashed so non Covid19 cases that could have been routine in January meant certain death in March.

poppers · 11-04-2020 08:52PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Popping into shops and posting letters. This is exactly why we need isolation centers. People cannot be trusted to isolate at home.

The civil liberties people would blow a gasket if we put people under house arrest. They are bad enough at the moment and all the gov is asking people to sit in their house and enjoy the time off.

Bridge93 · 11-04-2020 08:52PM

expectationlost wrote: »

we need a breakdown of cases in the last week or two not the entire time

If you go to that worldometre site and click on Ireland it will give you a load of graphs, one of which is a bar chart of cases day on day

Away With The Fairies · 11-04-2020 08:53PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

News from China...

https://twitter.com/Rover829/status/1248895334182350848

Why just Africans?

expectationlost · 11-04-2020 08:53PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

If you go to that worldometre site and click on Ireland it will give you a load of graphs, one of which is a bar chart of cases day on day

no I mean a breakdown by the irish authorities of cases from the last week ,rather then the entire time, a breakdown if they are happening in nursing homes or hospitals etc.

amadangomor · 11-04-2020 08:54PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

What lockdown?

Exactly. I think a lot of us are like rebellious children.

Tell Irish people that they have to stay at home and suddenly they become adventurers who are being suffocated by the state.

What's bad about staying home and relaxing for a few weeks?

People who would barely leave the house all weekend are doing marathon walks now. The neighbours never once walked their dogs and now they are out wearing the legs off the dogs

Glad for the dogs but they should be walked every day in any case

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 11-04-2020 08:54PM

Danzy wrote: »

Come on, that's serious catastrophic thinking.

We'll have one of the smaller death rates by the end of it all.

Not per capita we won't... not if we keep on our current trajectory.

We can hope, of course, but hope alone won't do the trick.

We need to sharpen up every aspect of what we're doing as a country!

fritzelly · 11-04-2020 08:55PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Why just Africans?

Something different...something racism...

Jinglejangle69 · 11-04-2020 08:56PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Exactly. I think a lot of us are like rebellious children.

Tell Irish people that they have to stay at home and suddenly they become adventurers who are being suffocated by the state.

What's bad about staying home and relaxing for a few weeks?

People who would barely leave the house all weekend are doing marathon walks now. The neighbours never once walked their dogs and now they are out wearing the legs off the dogs

Glad for the dogs but they should be walked every day in any case

We're actually a nation of morons who think we're loved all over the world.

We aren't and we are selfish ****ers pampered for too long.

macmahon · 11-04-2020 08:57PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

I can never understand how anyone can decide that someone is "worked up" by looking at words on a screen??

You know nothing about me, so don't presume that I am "worked up"... I am very calm and not really a worrier or someone with anxiety issues. But anyone who is not concerned about where we're headed, very much has their head in the sand right now!

Perhaps you and others are not worked up enough, about our current death toll... which is very high compared with many other countries. Perhaps you have become desensitized to the large amount of deaths we are experiencing??

Lets put this in perspective for you. If you scroll down you will see it says.... 83 deaths average per day (3.45 in an hour)
https://countrymeters.info/en/Ireland
RIP to all people who have died today.

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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