Garda losses her job after failing bleep test. How tough is it?

Banana Republic. · 10-04-2020 02:23PM

Rodin wrote: »

But don't need to be in as good a shape as a man.
All gardai should have to pass the same standard.

I’m not sure but I think there is differences in the genes that legally is has to be lower for women. Be worth finding out.

Banana Republic. · 10-04-2020 02:24PM

Rodin wrote: »

I don't think she's wearing anything to make her thighs bigger.
They're bigger than most men's.

I can’t argue that haha

NaiveMelodies · 10-04-2020 02:24PM

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

https://www-irishtimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda-body-criticises-excessive-bleep-tests-for-recruits-1.4047687?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&mode=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15865166729930&amp_ct=1586516683389&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fcrime-and-law%2Fgarda-body-criticises-excessive-bleep-tests-for-recruits-1.4047687

So basically it's as the title says. She passed it in templemore and but failed it before becoming a fully fledged guard. The article says they get multiple attempts to pass it too.

The required score for a female in 7.6 for someone between 18-25 and 6.6 for someone 26-35. Does anyone have any experience of how tough that is?

That's an extremely generous level for someone who needs to be fit to carry out their job.

Chalk McHugh · 10-04-2020 02:26PM

Rodin wrote: »

I don't think she's wearing anything to make her thighs bigger.
They're bigger than most men's.

Mike Tyson had big thighs. You can be extremely fit with big thighs. The girl is just overweight and very unfit.

Fann Linn · 10-04-2020 02:27PM

When they're finished with the fat gardai they might start then with some of those in the Prison Service.

Banana Republic. · 10-04-2020 02:27PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

I doubt too many fit female garda have ever caught young lads in a chase.

If you can’t pass that bleep test the only thing your catching is a cold

but I get your point, in the same breath they have to be able to chase a criminal for long enough to get back up. I’d have loved to pit myself against them, then again don’t we all find extra acceleration when the Gardaí are in pursuit

Rodin · 10-04-2020 02:29PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Mike Tyson had big thighs. You can be extremely fit with big thighs. The girl is just overweight and very unfit.

Tyson's thighs were muscular.
Yer one's are most certainly not.

I'd say I could give her a 50m head start in a 100m sprint and catch her.

The real scandal is that she was allowed to serve 10 years. Shouldnt have been allowed to graduate.

LollipopJimmy · 10-04-2020 02:30PM

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

That's an extremely generous level for someone who needs to be fit to carry out their job.

Yep, not able to pass that would put you out of breath walking up a couple of flights of stairs

Chalk McHugh · 10-04-2020 02:36PM

Rodin wrote: »

Tyson's thighs were muscular.
Yer one's are most certainly not.

I'd say I could give her a 50m head start in a 100m sprint and catch her.

The real scandal is that she was allowed to serve 10 years. Shouldnt have been allowed to graduate.

Yea i here ya but i didnt even realise garda had to do yearly fitness tests. Im surprised many other garda haven't failed it if thats the case and shes the first ive ever heard of.

To be honest theres too many female garda out on the beat. What use are they if there's a row? And they just cant physically deal with most men. Maybe the odd feeble skinny junky but 99% men would laugh at a female trying to run after them or restrain them. So surely this woman could be used in another area?

Rodin · 10-04-2020 02:38PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Yea i here ya but i didnt even realise garda had to do yearly fitness tests. Im surprised many other garda haven't failed it if thats the case and shes the first ive ever heard of.

To be honest theres too many female garda out on the beat. What use are they if there's a row? And they just cant physically deal with most men. Maybe the odd feeble skinny junky but 99% men would laugh at a female trying to run after them or restrain them. So surely this woman could be used in another area?

Sure when they make a lower standard for them to get in this is what happens.

All part of the larger gender agenda.

Chalk McHugh · 10-04-2020 02:45PM

Rodin wrote: »

Sure when they make a lower standard for them to get in this is what happens.

All part of the larger gender agenda.

Can she not do filing or office work or some other stuff? Mabe drive the squad car. Whether she lost a stone or two now anyway what difference does it make. Walking the streets is not really a job for female garda in my opinion. Far too many out there. The streets should be for 99% male garda.

timsey tiger · 10-04-2020 02:46PM

I'd def run 2km no bother at 12km/h, but the turning must up the level considerably over running in a straight line, I'm def. no athlete. I feel sorry for her, they should have had her out years ago, when it would have been easier for her change direction career wise. They've done her no favours by stringing her along for 8 or so years. If you are going to fail, fail early.

Banana Republic. · 10-04-2020 02:49PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Can she not do filing or office work or some other stuff? Mabe drive the squad car. Whether she lost a stone or two now anyway what difference does it make. Walking the streets is not really a job for female garda in my opinion. Far too many out there. The streets should be for 99% male garda.

I’ll disagree on that one, it’s not all physical work, a situation can be brought under control with the voice of reason, a good negotiator and levels of intelligence, a high percentage of people Gardaí come across pose no threat at all. Even when you watch The K you can see the skills they possess.

Rodin · 10-04-2020 02:54PM

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I’ll disagree on that one, it’s not all physical work, a situation can be brought under control with the voice of reason, a good negotiator and levels of intelligence, a high percentage of people Gardaí come across pose no threat at all. Even when you watch The K you can see the skills they possess.

But the physicality must be present should diplomacy fail.

PCeeeee · 10-04-2020 02:54PM

Banana Republic. wrote: »

If you can’t pass that bleep test the only thing your catching is a cold but I get your point, in the same breath they have to be able to chase a criminal for long enough to get back up. I’d have loved to pit myself against them, then again don’t we all find extra acceleration when the Gardaí are in pursuit

It isn't all about catching someone though. If you are not aerobically fit then you are much less likely be able to defend yourself from a a determined attacker.

You are a danger to yourself and worse to your colleagues.

She wasn't sacked because she was unfit. She was sacked because she refused to get fit.

deadlybuzzman · 10-04-2020 02:55PM

timsey tiger wrote: »

I feel sorry for her, they should have had her out years ago, when it would have been easier for her change direction career wise. They've done her no favours by stringing her along for 8 or so years. If you are going to fail, fail early.

She was only a garda reserve for most of that time and was a proper guard in training the last aprox 2 years. Here's the thing though, she knew the level she had to be up to and theyre allowed multiple tests if they fail and she still failed.
I really don't see how she has any cause for complaint

Chalk McHugh · 10-04-2020 03:00PM

Dublins most famous on the beat garda was called Lugs Brannigan not Jugs Brannigan. And proper order. The streets are for male coppers. Thats my take on it anyway.

Plumbthedepths · 10-04-2020 03:09PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Can she not do filing or office work or some other stuff? Mabe drive the squad car. Whether she lost a stone or two now anyway what difference does it make. Walking the streets is not really a job for female garda in my opinion. Far too many out there. The streets should be for 99% male garda.

Equal pay equal duties.

TheAnalyst_ · 10-04-2020 03:11PM

Vast, vast majority of police work requires no physicality or fitness. Everyone does their time on the beat and yes sometimes women get into bad situations because of size etc. Still valuable to have them in the police force for a 30+ year career.
In general there is a culture of extreme fitness. Not with all of them and not for their whole career but there are some serious athlethes in all police forces.

Chalk McHugh · 10-04-2020 03:13PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Vast, vast majority of police work requires no physicality or fitness. Everyone does their time on the beat and yes sometimes women get into bad situations because of size etc. Still valuable to have them in the police force.

Thats the way i see it. So why is she getting the bullet? How is she the first copper to fail this fitness test?

TheAnalyst_ · 10-04-2020 03:16PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Thats the way i see it. So why is she getting the bullet? How is she the first copper to fail this fitness test?

I don't know so much about it but she's probably just not fit enough. It happens and I'm fairly sure she's not the first.

Made in China 2040 · 10-04-2020 03:19PM

She has asthma lads ffs, what about all the fat male detectives.

IMO harsh, did she complain a higher up or something?

PCeeeee · 10-04-2020 03:22PM

Made in China 2040 wrote: »

She has asthma lads ffs, what about all the fat male detectives.

IMO harsh, did she complain a higher up or something?

Can they pass the test? If not. Out. Nothing top do with gender.

manonboard · 10-04-2020 03:25PM

Made in China 2040 wrote: »

She has asthma lads ffs, what about all the fat male detectives.

IMO harsh, did she complain a higher up or something?

I have asthma. Bad asthma. Using pills type of asthma. I could even run that speed without much hassle. On days were asthma is not under controlled, the person would not be fit for any type of activity a gardai needs to do.
It wasnt her asthma that stopped her, if it was asthma, she would most definitely need to change jobs because her asthma is very very poorly controlled.

Made in China 2040 · 10-04-2020 03:26PM

PCeeeee wrote: »

Can they pass the test? If not. Out. Nothing top do with gender.

They wouldnt catch a cold if it passed their face, theres more to this than a bleep test.

Dj Stiggie · 10-04-2020 03:28PM

Made in China 2040 wrote: »

She has asthma lads ffs, what about all the fat male detectives.

IMO harsh, did she complain a higher up or something?

Plenty of conditions that would stop you passing a medical to get onto the force. Why should she be given special treatment?

Plumbthedepths · 10-04-2020 03:31PM

Made in China 2040 wrote: »

She has asthma lads ffs, what about all the fat male detectives.

IMO harsh, did she complain a higher up or something?

My son has asthma , a Garda of 3 years and runs a 5km in 21 minutes. What's your point?

Made in China 2040 · 10-04-2020 03:32PM

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

Plenty of conditions that would stop you passing a medical to get onto the force. Why should she be given special treatment?

I bet she stepped on toes within the "organisation" they're known for it, the bleep test fail is an excuse.

Mostly lards in detective units are ok though. This story stinks.

Icepick · 10-04-2020 03:33PM

The physical tests are too soft if anything.

10-04-2020 03:35PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You don't get away with being overweight in the military, i don't see why anyone would believe a physically demanding job such as a Garda should be different.

Fair few military lads have joined the Gardai and been terrible unfit coming in.

Usually passed a fitness run under mysterious circumstances as they were massive lads and that's all they really cared about then

Garda losses her job after failing bleep test. How tough is it?

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