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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #7712
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Is it today we find out what’s happening?
    Is there an announcement due today?

    The emergency health team is to give their recommendation to gov't today so that points towards yes.


  • #7713
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    What’s happening today so.is there an announcement about restrictions due?

    Yes, and current conditions expected to remain for 2 more weeks at least.
    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Is it today we find out what’s happening?
    Is there an announcement due today?

    To answer your first question - yes.

    and second one - Yes!

    "Today's the day"


  • #7714
    Whehey!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭Whehey!


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    Already posted and discussed.

    Glad you cleared that up


  • #7715
    Level 42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Level 42


    Might aswell say a month more lockdown to get it out of the way. Its needed anyway


  • #7716
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    Multipass wrote: »
    Re the Norway post

    An app to track movement? I can’t see there being a big uptake of something like that. I understand the benefit, but would I sign up? No.
    Not many will sign up, although two weeks ago the council in bergen started to track everybody's movement by GSM. They texted people who congregated in groups of 5 or more.


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  • #7717
    moonage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭moonage


    There seems to be a policy of bumping up Covid-19 death numbers by changing the way deaths are registered:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMC6erskDQs


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWmiWf81zI


  • #7718
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Might aswell say a month more lockdown to get it out of the way. Its needed anyway

    How do you know it's needed? With a three week lag between infection and results from the test, we don't even know if the current restrictions have had an impact yet.


  • #7719
    The One Doctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Probably another 2-4 weeks.

    Our numbers are lagging a lot, it takes 5 days on average to see symptoms in a person, then assuming they ask for a test immediately they will wait another few days to be tested and up to 14 days for a result. Overall, that's a 21 day lag.

    Honestly, numbers infected are meaningless as up to 50% could be asymptomatic. Hospitalised numbers Vs deaths are a better indication are a better comparison, but the death rate would appear far too high.


  • #7720
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You need to stop overthinking this. They advise a 2m gap. That prohibits droplets from normal breathing and talking.

    So why are people not able for that 2m advice?

    Minimise the amount of people in the shops but then they are allowed to go anywhere and in any direction in the shop. People standing outside the shop gossiping away with less than half a meter between them. House parties and visitors going around visiting friends. People just don't understand.


  • #7721
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    The care home situation is dreadful globally. In Lombardy Russian chemical, biological and radiological experts from Russian Defence ministry disinfecting retirement/ care / nursing homes.

    We would never ask for help from them I guess? Why not though? We clearly have a disaster on going in nursing homes and need all the help we can get. Clearly know what they are doing. AKAIK we do knot have this capability.

    https://www.rt.com/news/484343-italy-russia-covid19-response/



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  • #7722
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Might aswell say a month more lockdown to get it out of the way. Its needed anyway





    I don’t think they will say a month.
    They might be planning a month but they will do it a week or two at a time.
    If they came out and said a month,the drama queens would fcukin explode and then not alone would you have the covid pandemic, you would also have the exploded drama queen pandemic plus a couple of thousand rebels without a cause taking to the streets


  • #7723
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,769 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    moonage wrote: »
    There seems to be a policy of bumping up Covid-19 death numbers by changing the way deaths are registered:

    There should be a ban on fox news segments


  • #7724
    hawkelady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    So why are people not able for that 2m advice?

    Minimise the amount of people in the shops but then they are allowed to go anywhere and in any direction in the shop. People standing outside the shop gossiping away with less than half a meter between them. House parties and visitors going around visiting friends. People just don't understand.

    I’d find it very difficult to stay at home if you lived in the house !!


  • #7725
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,030 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Amazing that people would not take part in an app to end a pandemic and save lives.

    But give all their data to WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram,Twitter.


  • #7726
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Today will be another sad milestone of 100,000 "reported" worldwide COVID19 deaths


  • #7727
    PCros
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭PCros


    Whehey! wrote: »
    Glad you cleared that up

    The "mass burial" grave is something they do daily for the homeless who have died.

    Nothing to do with the virus - but you have some idiot epidemiologist who should know better tweeting that. :rolleyes:


  • #7728
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    hawkelady wrote: »
    I’d find it very difficult to stay at home if you lived in the house !!

    I'm only saying what's happening in every town and village and how people aren't taking this seriously and here's boards again making me out to be a negative nelly. Off with you now and pass on your germs.


  • #7729
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭threeball


    moonage wrote: »
    There seems to be a policy of bumping up Covid-19 death numbers by changing the way deaths are registered:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMC6erskDQs


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWmiWf81zI

    Anyone quoting Fox news as a source for anything either doesn't have a clue what Fox are or is peddling an agenda.


  • #7730
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    If the restrictions as laid out by the government are lifted on Sunday what's the first thing people will do. Me I think I'll get out into nature. Visit a beach or glendalough.


  • #7731
    eddie73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭eddie73


    Level 42 wrote: »
    Might aswell say a month more lockdown to get it out of the way. Its needed anyway


    Yeah, but that will probably scatter a lot of people outside.

    Seems many can't do this.

    The reality though is that this is going to go on and on. The idea that we get to the end of the month and the virus has been somehow defeated is not where it is at at all.

    What the authorities are legislating for (in all likelihood), is to stagger the working population back to work and try and get the infections rate on our terms as much as possible. This is what is happening in Wuhan. Apps for movement of infected population etc. I dont like the sound of that at all. Possibly will be introduced here, but on a voluntary basis.

    Bottom line, the virus doesn't know the difference between April and May, a bank holiday or a week day. It won't just stop because we decide a month is a long enough time to have stayed indoors.


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  • #7732
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Basil3 wrote: »
    I'm fascinated by their claim of an app that can tell you if you've been less than 2m of an infected person for more than 15 mins.

    Would love to know from a technical point of view how this is possible. Location services aren't that accurate.

    Our app (likely based on Singapore's open-sourced one) will use Bluetooth.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-smartphone-app-to-facilitate-contact-tracing-to-be-rolled-out-hse-says-1.4215036


  • #7733
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If the restrictions as laid out by the government are lifted on Sunday what's the first thing people will do. Me I think I'll get out into nature. Visit a beach or glendalough.

    It was because of people visiting the beach or Glendalough en masse that restrictions were imposed in the first place.

    Go for a walk in an isolated location away from everyone else.


  • #7734
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If the restrictions as laid out by the government are lifted on Sunday what's the first thing people will do. Me I think I'll get out into nature. Visit a beach or glendalough.

    They won't be lifted.


  • #7735
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If the restrictions as laid out by the government are lifted on Sunday what's the first thing people will do. Me I think I'll get out into nature. Visit a beach or glendalough.

    Try find somewhere busier? maybe squeeze powerscourt waterfall in too


  • #7736
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Ardent wrote: »
    Supposedly footage of mass graves being filled in NYC:
    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1248374630399672321?s=19

    Unbelievable times.

    That's the scariest thing iv'e seen since this whole pandemic started. God help us all.


  • #7737
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    PCros wrote: »
    The "mass burial" grave is something they do daily for the homeless who have died.

    Nothing to do with the virus - but you have some idiot epidemiologist who should know better tweeting that. :rolleyes:


    Few things. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221
    • I suppose the BBC are idiots also.
    • So US normally buries people in mass graves and that's grand
    • epidemiologist is an Idiot

    I know it's hard at the moment with the all the uncertainty. Especially regarding jobs, family etc. The fact is that if the administration had listened to him and people like him we would have a lot less bodies to find a hole for.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1221542425056940034?s=20


  • #7738
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    I presume that the 'plan' is to maintain the spread of the virus to manageable levels until either we get a vaccine or achieve herd Immunity.

    That being the case, aren't tracking apps and immunity certificates and the like going to be inevitable, along with a steady stream of deaths every day over the next year or so.

    I hear people talking about gradually lifting restrictions and getting back to normal towards the end of the summer, but I just don't see how that works.


  • #7739
    The One Doctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Realistically speaking the lockdown is not sustainable for more than another month. After that... we'll, let's just say that the Guards might be more challenged than challenging.

    I don't want anyone more to die of this virus, but economic and psychological problems are appearing day by day. Divorces rates, suicide rates, mental health issues, money problems, unemployment, businesses shut permanently, tax takes way down, education problems... lockdown is unsustainable for much longer in multiple ways.

    There are some positives. Hand washing and social distancing will remain as habits now, reducing virus spread. Working from home will help too.


  • #7740
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    If the restrictions as laid out by the government are lifted on Sunday what's the first thing people will do. Me I think I'll get out into nature. Visit a beach or glendalough.

    They won't be lifted this Sunday and not for many Sunday's to come.

    It's time now for people to start acting like adults and realize this is long term for our own good.


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  • #7741
    PCros
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭PCros


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Few things. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221
    • I suppose the BBC are idiots also.
    • So US normally buries people in mass graves and that's grand
    • epidemiologist is an Idiot

    Well the BBC backs up my point...its a burial ground for for New Yorkers with no next of kin or who could not afford a funeral. This happens regardless.

    Of course this is going to increase with the current situation but they are making it out to be everyone who dies from the virus is getting thrown in the ground.

    https://www.hartisland.net/


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