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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #6932
    keynes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭keynes


    polesheep wrote: »
    That's brilliant news.
    wakka12 wrote: »
    Personally I think 1 is alarmingly high considering the level of restrictions to normal life right now


    Yeah, what would it be like if we weren't all locked up. Its really a meaningless statistic under these conditions. (I'm leaving aside the fact they have no way of nailing it down to the nice reportable figure of "1".)


  • #6933
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Very alarming figures, by the sounds of it we might be dealing with these restrictions for many months. As a LC student all this uncertainty is very worrying

    We wont be, your lc might be moved a month say. But those figures are not alarming.

    ICU numbers are very steady and haven't exploded up.


  • #6934
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    I'm referring to the figures, not the deaths - but then again, I'd say you know that anyway.

    Man what is wrong with you? They're not just figures, that's the point. They were people. You're losing your humanity on here, just stfu.


  • #6935
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Longing wrote: »
    Some posters here should be ashamed of themselves. Saying death figures are not bad. One death is bad.
    And yet we can can do nothing at all about that 1 death or any other ones in this context.


  • #6936
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Median is an Average.
    Mean is also an Average
    The median is the middle number not the average - this is very key and people need to understand that


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  • #6937
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Very alarming figures, by the sounds of it we might be dealing with these restrictions for many months. As a LC student all this uncertainty is very worrying
    ?? We are expecting peak in next 5 days. Cases positive are irrelevant at present due to testing issues. We look at deaths. Hope peak arrives within 5 days and will see downward trend. Lockdown impact on death rate is about 3 to 4 week lag.


  • #6938
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    This is it wrote: »
    Praise the Lord.

    Hallelujah


  • #6939
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Longing


    KindOfIrish wrote: »
    1 million or so people die every day for the past 100 years. Just think about it

    And whats your point. Your 1 millions deaths are bad. Has is 28 today and there familys.


  • #6940
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I think that we are still 7 to 10 days away from the peak number of deaths, a bit frightening looking at the numbers for Belgium, hope that we don't get to that level.


  • #6941
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Median is an Average.
    Mean is also an Average

    Median is not average. Median death rate is 84 today which means that roughly 14 of those that died were older than 84 and 14 were younger than 84.


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  • #6942
    EDit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    Gael23 wrote: »
    The R number and ICU admissions are the most important factors really

    Agree about ICU admissions. However, the R number, while encouraging for the known patients, is somewhat redundant if we have no idea how many people have it (if we don’t know how many people have it, how can we know how many those people are infecting?)


  • #6943
    Looptheloop30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭Looptheloop30


    Average types.

    Mean

    Median

    Mode


  • #6944
    keynes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭keynes


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's running the modelling team. I'd suggest you read why that 15000 is now not relevant as this post shows quite a level of ignorance.


    He reported 15000 before which was a result of his flawed model of R_0. And now he's reporting a value of 1, yet he has no idea how many are infected, given the testing debacle. In any case, R_0 is only meaningful in a non-lockdown situation.


  • #6945
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,277 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    The median is the middle number not the average Mean- this is very key and people need to understand that

    FYP
    I know what Median is
    But Median, Mean and Mode are all averages by definition.


  • #6946
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    George Lee is ridiculously depressing


  • #6947
    NH2013
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭NH2013


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Median is an Average.
    Mean is also an Average

    No, median is not an average.

    Median is the middle value when all numbers are organised and sorted according to size. Median of 5,9,16 is 9.

    Mean/Average is all the values added together and then divided by the total number of values counted. Mean/Average of 5,9,16 is 10.

    This is primary school stuff.


  • #6948
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    *Clicks into main Covid thread for the first time in weeks*

    *Sees trolls still thriving* :(

    *Sees Beasty's latest post* :D


  • #6949
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Reproduction rate is close to 1 in Ireland
    thats really important. we need to get that under. We can do it Stay home.


  • #6950
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭take everything


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's running the modelling team. I'd suggest you read why that 15000 is now not relevant as this post shows quite a level of ignorance.

    Posters like this don't seem to get it that it's only not 15000 because of the measures taken.

    It's very hard to get that into their heads.
    Instead they seem to have a "I told you so" condescension to the very guys who made the prediction that ensured the mitigation was put in place in the first place.

    It's maddening. They just don't understand exponential growth or something


  • #6951
    EDit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    Do we really need a daily argument over the definition of median?


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  • #6952
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    EDit wrote: »
    Agree about ICU admissions. However, the R number, while encouraging for the known patients, is somewhat redundant if we have no idea how many people have it (if we don’t know how many people have it, how can we know how many those people are infecting?)

    It's still a very significant number. It tells us how many others a positive person will infect. If the Ro is 1, no matter how many people are positive, they can still only infect one each.


  • #6953
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,513 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Median is not average.

    Have a look at this post I made earlier in the thread

    "average" covers a number of different measures, including mean and median


  • #6954
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Longing wrote: »
    And whats your point. Your 1 millions deaths are bad. Has is 28 today and there familys.
    Yes there are, but there is the equally important public health aim to ensure the fewest number die.


  • #6955
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    This weekend we will finally start to have data on the impact of the measures. It has felt like forever but we are getting there. So far the numbers give cause for much optimism given all deaths would've been as a result of transmission prior to measures being brought in so the next few days we will hopefully see how effective the measures have been.


  • #6956
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,756 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    George Lee is ridiculously depressing

    He's a headline-grabber.


  • #6957
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    They're distancing themselves from referencing a surge, if the curve is flattened they dont expect a surge and thats the goal


  • #6958
    KindOfIrish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭KindOfIrish


    Longing wrote: »
    And whats your point. Your 1 millions deaths are bad. Has is 28 today and there familys.

    No question that on a personal level every death is a tragedy. But from statistic point of view nothing extraordinary is happening.


  • #6959
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I assume the 'transmission rate of 1' figure is calculated by tracing a number of close contacts of an infected individual and generally theyve found that usually one of their close contacts also caught it from them


  • #6960
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    EDit wrote: »
    Do we really need a daily argument over the definition of median?

    We do if people see Median age is 80 and then automatically assume that everyone that has died was on the way out as the average is 80, when i reality you could have ten people in their 20's in the median age figure.


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  • #6961
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    From an ICU and hospital capacity point of view it is busy but not disastrous. The standard ICUs are filling up but it’s still at the point of using HDU as extra capacity. That is essentially the first phase of the icu expansion plan. Moving to converted wards etc adds lots of capacity but we don’t need to do that yet.

    Of note we extubated 3 people in the past few days and they left ICU. Some positivity at least.


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