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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • #2132
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    ^^^^

    I think it’s time someone stepped away from the internet.


  • #2133
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I used like it,still do when its played properly,just we,'re **** at it,and noone should be putting money into it here


    Its devolved from when i used like it,to a game now where biggest fattest ould grunt (seriously 18 stone plus isnt fit or healthy) just crashes through opposition defence (where is skill in that??).....

    .we're so sh1t at it,japan pissed all over us at the world cup,(i dont mean to be racist,but japs are by and large smaller than us,so.shouldnt been able to destroy ireland the way they did)

    I would disagree, Go to the rugby forum we can discuss, Seemingly some right wing politics as well

    But off topic here


  • #2134
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Out come the knives

    https://twitter.com/fionnansheahan/status/1246414868107923458?s=21


  • #2135
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    ^^^^

    I think it’s time someone stepped away from the internet.

    You’re here 12 hours a day and accuse people of running off when they don’t respond to your endless bullsh!t. No, most people actually have lives and aren’t getting paid to sit there all day ranting and trying to be a smart arse like yourself


  • #2136
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    I wonder if the SF propagandists, easily identifiable, could do something productive for a change instead of engaging in circular arguments based on pre-approved script deployed by the well funded SF PR team.

    Simple question.. How does SF propose to form a government without pointing a gun at people's heads?


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  • #2137
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,076 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nitrogan wrote: »

    Simple question.. How does SF propose to form a government without pointing a gun at people's heads?

    Do you think there is something edgy in this phrase? You keep repeating it in threads. :)

    They can't form a government and it is beginning to look like nobody can


  • #2138
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    SF can't form a government because they don't know how to behave in a democracy. Plain and simple.

    I'm open to any evidence from their years in NI government which shows they can.


  • #2139
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Well this is all kinds of awkward eh?

    https://twitter.com/paulodonoghue93/status/1246409596572446720?s=21


  • #2140
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Hearing the same. And rumbles that they do not want anywhere near government for the oncoming austerity.

    Thats FG for you though.


  • #2141
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    Deleted User wrote: »


    To best my knowlegde FG are preparing for an autumn/early winter election


    I can't wait to see what free stuff SF are promising then.


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  • #2142
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    I can't wait to see what free stuff SF are promising then.

    You seem blissfully unaware that FFFG have been in power since the foundation of the state.
    They created the ‘free stuff’ welfare system and all de free houses the scroungers get

    Sf didn’t do that


  • #2143
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,256 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Seems to me,noone can form a government at the moment

    FF and FG are blowing smoke about it,but havnt the numbers....kinda ironic really


    To best my knowlegde FG are preparing for an autumn/early winter election

    I think it’s more likely that FF and Fine Gael with the nine regional TDS will form government. I think that’s enough but labour would bolster.

    Fine Gael could gamble that they have garnered public support but I think too risky.

    I think it is too early to say that no government will be formed. I think if people think that parties or TDS refuse to join putting politics before the pandemic, it could be viewed harshly. If a government can be formed and then review when we are out of danger, then it should be done.


  • #2144
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    joeguevara wrote: »
    I think it’s more likely that FF and Fine Gael with the nine regional TDS will form government. I think that’s enough but labour would bolster.

    Fine Gael could gamble that they have garnered public support but I think too risky.

    I think it is too early to say that no government will be formed. I think if people think that parties or TDS refuse to join putting politics before the pandemic, it could be viewed harshly. If a government can be formed and then review when we are out of danger, then it should be done.


    The simplest most logical and best option would be a unity government reviewed in 6 months and election coming out of it.

    But nope. That would be too sensible and we can’t be seen to sit down with them filthy shinners.

    That’s going to come back to haunt FG.


  • #2145
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    Runaways wrote: »
    You seem blissfully unaware that FFFG have been in power since the foundation of the state.
    They created the ‘free stuff’ welfare system and all de free houses the scroungers get

    Sf didn’t do that


    Are SF proposing to cut benefits?


    Like **** they are are. They set up a strategy in NI to bleed the British state dry and now they're addicted to welfare handouts and would do even worse in Ireland.


    There's a perception that SF are a front for organised crime but they are worse than that they are snake oil sales people who would like to drag Ireland down to the level where their friends Syriza in Greece and Morales in Venezuela are. Socialist Utopia with a side of organised crime.


  • #2146
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,076 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    SF can't form a government because they don't know how to behave in a democracy. Plain and simple.

    I'm open to any evidence from their years in NI government which shows they can.

    They are still in government there and still, by a long shot the most popular nationalist/republican party?

    What other evidence do you need?


  • #2147
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    They are still in government there and still, by a long shot the most popular nationalist/republican party?

    What other evidence do you need?


    NI broke the Belgian record for a non-functioning government.


    SF can't manage a coalition of two where they are equal partners.


    The only way they even got that far was threatening to kill people.#


    SF have NO democratic record of governance. Nothing.


  • #2148
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    Are SF proposing to cut benefits?


    Like **** they are are. They set up a strategy in NI to bleed the British state dry and now they're addicted to welfare handouts and would do even worse in Ireland.


    There's a perception that SF are a front for organised crime but they are worse than that they are snake oil sales people who would like to drag Ireland down to the level where their friends Syriza in Greece and Morales in Venezuela are. Socialist Utopia with a side of organised crime.


    Where to even start with that nonsense.

    Can you back up any single one statement in there?


  • #2149
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    NI broke the Belgian record for a non-functioning government.


    SF can't manage a coalition of two where they are equal partners.


    The only way they even got that far was threatening to kill people.#


    SF have NO democratic record of governance. Nothing.

    Lol theres a coalition of 5 in the north

    Your out of your depth,blowing smoke,mate


  • #2150
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    SF pay their army well at least.


  • #2151
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,076 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    NI broke the Belgian record for a non-functioning government.


    SF can't manage a coalition of two where they are equal partners.


    The only way they even got that far was threatening to kill people.#


    SF have NO democratic record of governance. Nothing.

    Wow...major deficits there mate...on a lot of levels. Not worth engaging with you until you get a basic grasp of the facts.


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  • #2152
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    NI broke the Belgian record for a non-functioning government.


    SF can't manage a coalition of two where they are equal partners.


    The only way they even got that far was threatening to kill people.#


    SF have NO democratic record of governance. Nothing.

    What kind of bullsh*t is this? No fan of SF but for f**k sake cop on.


  • #2153
    Nitrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Nitrogan


    Oh great here's the guy who thinks murdering people's friends and family is funny.

    Sorry I just can't hide my disgust for your existence.


  • #2154
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,256 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Runaways wrote: »
    The simplest most logical and best option would be a unity government reviewed in 6 months and election coming out of it.

    But nope. That would be too sensible and we can’t be seen to sit down with them filthy shinners.

    That’s going to come back to haunt FG.

    Firstly do you really think it would be sensible for a national unity government when Sinn Fein have been critical of pretty much every decision that has been made by Fine Gael. Do you think a national unity government would assist in swifter decisions or would too many parties with such opposing views end up arguing leading to delays.

    Also, it would probably be more damaging for Fine Gael to form a government with Sinn Fein especially after the accusations made by them.

    If a government is able to be formed with FF and Independents and allows appropriate decisions to be made then it seems more sensible.also it is important to have an opposition to constructively challenge decisions and actions then it’s better than everyone in together.

    I think the calls by certain TDs to allow the government that the people voted for is hollow. If the people really voted for such change then a left government would be formed already.

    The fact that FF FG and independents with broadly similar policies shows can meet the quota is evidence that the people didn’t want that much change.


  • #2155
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Firstly do you really think it would be sensible for a national unity government when Sinn Fein have been critical of pretty much every decision that has been made by Fine Gael. Do you think a national unity government would assist in swifter decisions or would too many parties with such opposing views end up arguing leading to delays.

    Also, it would probably be more damaging for Fine Gael to form a government with Sinn Fein especially after the accusations made by them.

    If a government is able to be formed with FF and Independents and allows appropriate decisions to be made then it seems more sensible.also it is important to have an opposition to constructively challenge decisions and actions then it’s better than everyone in together.

    I think the calls by certain TDs to allow the government that the people voted for is hollow. If the people really voted for such change then a left government would be formed already.

    The fact that FF FG and independents with broadly similar policies shows can meet the quota is evidence that the people didn’t want that much change.


    I haven’t heard SF be critical at all.

    And politically it would have made sense for a unity government especially for FG. If this gets worse and it will they’re carrying the can alone. Even Boris is after reaching out to other party leaders for the same reason. Spread the blame.

    FG have already raided half of SFs ideas for dealing with it. They just didn’t go as far. They’d all be far more on the same page than they’d admit but no way can they be seen to say it. Any of them.

    Some maturity and forward thinking is needed but no. FG going it solo.

    It will haunt them and come back to bite them seriously. Just wait n see.


  • #2156
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,076 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Firstly do you really think it would be sensible for a national unity government when Sinn Fein have been critical of pretty much every decision that has been made by Fine Gael. Do you think a national unity government would assist in swifter decisions or would too many parties with such opposing views end up arguing leading to delays.

    Also, it would probably be more damaging for Fine Gael to form a government with Sinn Fein especially after the accusations made by them.

    If a government is able to be formed with FF and Independents and allows appropriate decisions to be made then it seems more sensible.also it is important to have an opposition to constructively challenge decisions and actions then it’s better than everyone in together.

    I think the calls by certain TDs to allow the government that the people voted for is hollow. If the people really voted for such change then a left government would be formed already.

    The fact that FF FG and independents with broadly similar policies shows can meet the quota is evidence that the people didn’t want that much change.

    Moulding 57 varieties of Independents together with bribes and promises of things they wouldn't normally be entitled to or get has 'nothing - sweet fanny Adams' to do with 'what the people want'.


  • #2157
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,997 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Runaways wrote: »
    The simplest most logical and best option would be a unity government reviewed in 6 months and election coming out of it.

    But nope. That would be too sensible and we can’t be seen to sit down with them filthy shinners.

    That’s going to come back to haunt FG.

    Why would that be logical? Sinn Fein policy is nuts and reckless.


  • #2158
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Why would that be logical? Sinn Fein policy is nuts and reckless.

    Then why have FG adopted half of them?

    Talking about this crisis and other elements of policy


  • #2159
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,997 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Runaways wrote: »
    I haven’t heard SF be critical at all.

    And politically it would have made sense for a unity government especially for FG. If this gets worse and it will they’re carrying the can alone. Even Boris is after reaching out to other party leaders for the same reason. Spread the blame.

    FG have already raided half of SFs ideas for dealing with it. They just didn’t go as far. They’d all be far more on the same page than they’d admit but no way can they be seen to say it. Any of them.

    Some maturity and forward thinking is needed but no. FG going it solo.

    It will haunt them and come back to bite them seriously. Just wait n see.

    FG going it solo? All 35 of them, on their own forming a government?

    The failure of Sinn Fein to even negotiate a bare minimum arrangement with even one party is stark.


  • #2160
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭mattser


    Nitrogan wrote: »
    SF can't form a government because they don't know how to behave in a democracy. Plain and simple.

    I'm open to any evidence from their years in NI government which shows they can.
    blanch152 wrote: »
    Why would that be logical? Sinn Fein policy is nuts and reckless.

    Someone forgot to chit their seed potatoes


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  • #2161
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,997 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Runaways wrote: »
    Where to even start with that nonsense.

    Can you back up any single one statement in there?


    For a start, where did those tweets of Pearse Doherty with Syriza ever go? They got deleted, just like a scene from an Orwell novel.


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