CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Rob A. Bank · 04-04-2020 08:53PM

threeball wrote: »

One thing that bothers me is, we've had quite a high number of government officials, heads of state and celebrities get this yet none have ended up in ICU or even getting an absolute hammering. The numbers would suggest you have about a one in 10 chance of becoming seriously ill with this virus but that hasnt played out. Does that then suggest the figures are far more favourable than is being suggested. Surely they can't all be lucky.

It's just bad luck and your age that decides if you end up on a ventilator.

Politicians can't resist shaking hands with everyone in sight... and of course there are the dim ones who believe this is all a hoax... which may explain why they are more vulnerable to the coronavirus.

Beasty · 04-04-2020 08:53PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Anyone listening to Trump ??

Nah! Just lookin' at the pictures....

Tell me how · 04-04-2020 08:53PM

Hego Damask wrote: »

so how many f*cking c*nting decades is this sh*t expected to go on for anyway ?

When WW2 started, some soldiers were concerned that it would be over before they got to see some action.
6 years later, I suspect that those that were still alive had seen enough action.

Hopefully this is not going to be anything like this, but I think at the very least this summer is going to be very different to previous ones.

Thinking optimistically, I hope that restrictions may start to be removed in Ireland from in or around the start of May, but that in places like the US (where I am) it will be at least another month before they will be in a position to consider such action.

I know as much about this as 99.9% of people (which is to say, hardly anything), but am hopeful that another couple months will take us to a place where testing is much faster, more accurate and that that in conjunction with fast accurate contact tracing along with safer practices when out will allow for things to improve.

Stheno · 04-04-2020 08:55PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Where can I view the US press conference please and thanks?

CNN.com or I think White House live if you google

If you can forget this is the man with the power to nuke the worlds to oblivion it's quite entertaining

And he looks like a lizard person

eagle eye · 04-04-2020 08:55PM

facehugger99 wrote:

Considering you've just invented them in your head, probably not.

Your reading skills are quite poor. I asked the question as to if it's happening and then followed on from that asking if they are added.
I'm sure there are online be classes in reading and comprehension.

ITman88 · 04-04-2020 08:56PM

omerin wrote: »

I hope someone in the stores of the irish ventilator factory does some creative accounting with them and a few disapear off the system;)

Its in Ireland but its not an Irish company so I imagine the US will make the rules!

josip · 04-04-2020 08:57PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Anyone know what is the story with the tri colours flying on houses.is it a United against covid thing?

They might have been put up for St Patrick's day and not taken down.

auspicious · 04-04-2020 08:57PM

BUMPING THIS DOCTOR INTERVIEW

Although we don't have a similar population or density
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HEAR THE LAST TWO MINUTES
- from 17mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlbCmRJMW4

Beechwoodspark · 04-04-2020 08:59PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Anyone know about the tricolours

Just to reply to this. My local priest (bit of an oddball) has a Huge tricolour on display from window of his house.

Originally when he put it out I thought it was in support of the Irish rugby or soccer team but I THINK it’s some sort of patriotic gesture now.

Good few ppl have complained saying it’s out of place in a quiet residential area. I would agree.

fritzelly · 04-04-2020 09:00PM

Fauci sounds rough - bit of a sore throat...?

Tell me how · 04-04-2020 09:02PM

Trump is losing it.

ua · 04-04-2020 09:03PM

Does anyone know where to get a couple of facemasks in Carlow and what do you think of facemasks in helping to protect against the virus

iguana · 04-04-2020 09:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I don't know what version I want. Knowing or not knowing.

Not knowing and spreading it. Knowing and thinking am I going to die.

There is the third and possibly most common option. Knowing you have a weird but relatively mild respiratory illness. Suspecting it's Covid but not knowing for sure (unless you are a celebrity). Probably not infecting anyone as you know you may have it, only being worried about your own health because you are sick during a pandemic but being pretty confident you'll be fine. Keeping your fingers crossed for antibody testing so you'll know for sure sooner rather than later.

Roger_007 · 04-04-2020 09:03PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Trump is losing it.

He never had it!

threeball · 04-04-2020 09:04PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

It's just bad luck and your age that decides if you end up on a ventilator.

Politicians can't resist shaking hands with everyone in sight... and of course there are the dim ones who believe this is all a hoax... which may explain why they are more vulnerable to the coronavirus.

Plenty of them have been older people. The law of averages would dictate at least one would have gotten a moderate to severe case.

ChikiChiki · 04-04-2020 09:05PM

threeball wrote: »

Only a matter of time before hes fired. Its how trump works. The fcuker is nuts. 1000s dying and hes talking about open basketball stadiums.

Trump is not with the programme. It is as clear as daylight. Personally I think he is disinterested or has something going on with is mental state but also is swayed massively by his businesses performance.

He name checked every single sports leader in the US which took up about a minute instead of delivering a single line 5 second executive summary that they were on board about kickstarting things. Odd behaviour.

Muahahaha · 04-04-2020 09:06PM

CNN channel 506 on Sky box are showing it, Dr.Brix speaking at the moment after another long Trump rant

lillycakes2 · 04-04-2020 09:07PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbRtq2croI

Trump briefing

fritzelly · 04-04-2020 09:08PM

Reporter asking question...its a yes or no answer but not we expect you to answer yes or no

LMAO

Galway56736 · 04-04-2020 09:08PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Its in Ireland but its not an Irish company so I imagine the US will make the rules!

Medtronic is headquartered in Ireland so technically is an Irish company

KathleenGrant · 04-04-2020 09:10PM

Think the flag thing is in response to a "fly your club/county colours to show support for front line staff" initiative. Some of my grandkids have them flying. **** I miss them.

JP Liz V1 · 04-04-2020 09:11PM

Total number hospitalised 1118
Total number admitted to ICU 158
Total number of healthcare workers 1084
Number clusters notified 206

(midnight on Thursday 2 April) - www.gov.ie

It is worrying that nearly a quarter of the confirmed positive cases in ROI are healthcare workers

I do think still we should be informed of the cluster locations and not just East, West, South and North

darjeeling · 04-04-2020 09:12PM

Now that the worldometers page includes numbers of tests done, here's a plot showing how the test:case ratio correlates with fatality rates.

Average current fatality rate based on closed cases is much higher in countries that have done under 10 tests for every case identified, and much lower in countries with over 40 tests for every case.

The reason is that countries that are doing limited testing relative to the size of the epidemic are failing to detect most of the less severe cases, and this shows up as an apparent higher fatality rate.

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In Ireland, 30k tests had been completed by Thursday (IT link)- 6.6 tests for every case identified by today (the number may now be nearer 35k, but I can't find a current figure).
Our current closed case fatality rate is 85%. Assuming the number of patients who have been discharged is reasonably current, this is among the highest case fatality rates of any country. Only the UK and the Netherlands are higher.

To me, this shows how little testing we are doing relative to the size of the epidemic here.

My not very scientific reckoning based on having read / heard a lot and eyeballed a lot of numbers is that we are probably closer to 100,000 cases than 4,600.

declanflynn · 04-04-2020 09:12PM

Galway56736 wrote: »

Medtronic is headquartered in Ireland so technically is an Irish company

the Irish government has the power if it wants to have every ventilator in that factory so there is no need to worry about ventilators

blackcard · 04-04-2020 09:13PM

So breaking countries death rates per million into groups, you get the following;
Spain and Italy at 251 and 254. Spain going to overtake Italy shortly
France, Belgium, Holland and Switzerland at 116, 111, 96 and 77.
So far neighbouring EU countries.
UK at 64.
Iran an outlier at 41. Neighbouring countries a lot lower. Even Turkey at 6.
Sweden at 37 on a bit of a solo run as regards a lockdown.
Ireland, Denmark, Greece, Portugal, Austria at 28, 28, 28, 26 and 21
So far generally EU countries. Probably travel related.
USA at 25.
Germany an outlier at 17. What are they doing right?
All Eastern European countries very low numbers. Russia 0.3 Rest of the world very low.
China at 2?????????????????
Almost definitely, there are differences in the way that some countries are reporting. Not including homes for the elderly.
What are the other reasons for the different numbers?

Strazdas · 04-04-2020 09:14PM

darjeeling wrote: »

Now that the worldometers page includes numbers of tests done, here's a plot showing how the test:case ratio correlates with fatality rates.

Average current fatality rate based on closed cases is much higher in countries that have done under 10 tests for every case identified, and much lower in countries with over 40 tests for every case.

The reason is that countries that are doing limited testing relative to the size of the epidemic are failing to detect most of the less severe cases, and this shows up as an apparent higher fatality rate.

In Ireland, 30k tests had been completed by Thursday (IT link)- 6.6 tests for every case identified by today (the number may now be nearer 35k, but I can't find a current figure).
Our current closed case fatality rate is 85%. Assuming the number of patients who have been discharged is reasonably current, this is among the highest case fatality rates of any country. Only the UK and the Netherlands are higher.

To me, this shows how little testing we are doing relative to the size of the epidemic here.

My not very scientific reckoning based on having read / heard a lot and eyeballed a lot of numbers is that we are probably closer to 100,000 cases than 4,600.

Latest figure is 37k according to Simon Harris

BanditLuke · 04-04-2020 09:15PM

The plasma transfer thing sounds very promising.

from_atozinc · 04-04-2020 09:15PM

Weird to watch the news and not have Corona as the first news item.

from_atozinc · 04-04-2020 09:16PM

Weird to watch the news and not have Corona as the first news item.

ITman88 · 04-04-2020 09:16PM

Galway56736 wrote: »

Medtronic is headquartered in Ireland so technically is an Irish company

Most multinationals are headquartered in Dublin for tax purposes, some accountant in Dublin has a couple of hundred directorships.

It’s an American company, every decision made at corporate level happens in the US.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP