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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So the majority of people being admitted to ICU are under 65

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0404/1128465-covid19-coronavirus-tracker/

    Yet we are told the average age of those dying is 82.

    So are old people not even getting to ICU?

    Edit: the post below kinda asks the same question.

    Glad someone is reading. I always say if you want your news three days earlier come to boards.ie

    3 days ago
    Yeah shows how important physical distancing is within the community. Again credit where it is due offers much more insight to what is going on. Fair play to "EPI Team" in hse.

    One thing from that report. Of the deaths thus far 90% of deaths have been in 65+.

    However ICU admissions much less skewed to older ages so any age can end up there. Hopefully they all recover.

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    Well worth a read for everyone on here.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/COVID-19%20Epidemiology%20report%20for%20NPHET%2031.03.2020v1-%20website%20version.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    What were Sweden doing...something similar to Germany in how deaths were recorded?

    They are only recording people who die from Covid with no underlying health issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭lordlame


    voluntary wrote: »
    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.

    Ssssh ... don’t go against the xenophobia in here by talking sense :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    Yes it used be on rte news for 20 seconds so many people died in China today forget about it it won't spread anywhere else
    Well SARS and MERS stayed very far away and this was "just a flu'" to start with, so not really a surprise how we collectively responded initially. We'll know for the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    Yes it used be on rte news for 20 seconds so many people died in China today forget about it it won't spread anywhere else

    Governments knew. There were official NATO warnings sent early January, maybe Ireland is not a NATO member, but it doesn't really matter. All Countries knew this thing is coming and it's coming with heavy weapons.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    voluntary wrote: »
    All EU countries knew in very early January that the virus is going to spread across the world, yet nearly no country have started preparing.

    There were dozens of school trips in northern Italy while the virus was rampant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Germany prepared well

    Germany has one of the best healthcare systems in the world. Not just that, they have vast resources and testing capacity that few countries can match. They also very quickly stopped medical resources leaving the country as Switzerland found out. I think it’s very difficult to work out how any country is handling this in comparison to others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    I wonder if the weather is fine in June could they do the state exams out in the open? maybe that's the only way they will probably go ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,529 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Population size and density is incomparable with Ireland. Have you been to Madrid?



    Yes, we do have a major advantage in that regard, which demonstrates how castastrophic it was for the Uk to not introduce strict lockdown measure sooner in London to slow the spread of the virus. We are now seeing the dire consequences of that ditherting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    They are only recording people who die ftrom Covid with no underlying health issues.

    I thought the WHO were issuing guidelines on what way deaths should be recorded?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    xtal191 wrote: »

    Shes ****ing unbearable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    xtal191 wrote: »

    She’s right areas of high unemployment less access to health insurance and health care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,128 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    I wonder if the weather is fine in June could they do the state exams out in the open? maybe that's the only way they will probably go ahead

    Yes...because our weather is so predictable...

    Four poxy seasons in one hour, let alone one day!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    There were dozens of school trips in northern Italy while the virus was rampant

    Yes that was just pure stupidity and then letting in all the Italians a month ago from an epicentre of a pandemic we've a great government!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    I wonder if the weather is fine in June could they do the state exams out in the open? maybe that's the only way they will probably go ahead

    I'd find that hard. The slightest breeze would blow your papers around and the brightness from direct sunlight. Unless some sort of tent structure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    She’s right areas of high unemployment less access to health insurance and health care.
    It's politicking at the worst possible time and really not helpful to anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ricero wrote: »
    Shes ****ing unbearable

    Desperate scut, thrives on division and fostering it all to get the likes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Seems US has taken goods in a third party country on grounds they are US property because they are manufactured by a us company (3m). Wonder what possible consequences if they deploy similar measures.

    Our gov will defo appease them. Better get orders in now.

    Uk might start taking paracetamol made in Waterford.
    We all know about the ventilators made here.


    https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1246399767174950917?s=21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I'd find that hard. The slightest breeze would blow your papers around and the brightness from direct sunlight. Unless some sort of tent structure?

    I wonder what will happen when the schools open in September must they all repeat a year even in primary school they will have to make their communion next year I can't see them going ahead this year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    I hear a lot of guys saying that they hate the word "moist", with me it's "cluster" as in a cluster of haemorrhoids or genital warts, just saying, I'm hearing it a lot the last few weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    walshb wrote: »
    Yes...because our weather is so predictable...

    Four poxy seasons in one hour, let alone one day!!

    That's the only time of year we get good weather when the exams are on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Seamai wrote: »
    I hear a lot of guys saying that they hate the word "moist", with me it's "cluster" as in a cluster of haemorrhoids or genital warts, just saying, I'm hearing it a lot the last few weeks.
    Just one of the many words and expressions we would like to see forgotten!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Over a 1000 health care workers are positive for Covid19. Claiming less than 10% directly due to work. Vast majority due to point contact from outside work.

    If true this indicates there are a lot more positive cases in the population.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,021 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    UK Update

    Another 708 in hospital deaths just been confirmed
    Another 3735 cases also confirmed.
    Just 6570 people were tested yesterday.

    Looking more closely at numbers it seems that whilst 6570 people were tested, 10,984 tests were actually carried out which suggests that more than 50% of patients are being tested more than once.

    Are they so unsure of the accuracy of these tests that they are testing the majority of patients twice, or is testing people multiple times being done to boost the numbers in view of the governments new targets?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    lordlame wrote: »
    Ssssh ... don’t go against the xenophobia in here by talking sense :pac:

    How is it xenophobic? Some people are blaming the Chinese government because of their actions not because they are Chinese.

    Silly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    auspicious wrote: »

    all I can say is that itis very like the films I saw coming from Wuhan in the early days before the drastic shutdown. except for the indidivual cremations on the street


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Over a 1000 health care workers are positive for Covid19. Claiming less than 10% directly due to work. Vast majority due to point contact from outside work.

    If true this indicates there are a lot more positive cases in the population.

    In a weird way it might be better if there are hundreds of thousands infected and our icu and deaths level off over the coming weeks. Thus would mean CFR is much lower then anticipated and that we may have way more immune then we thought.

    Best scenario appears to be that this has been more contagious then thought and most of us have it or had it. The deaths and sick are still horrible to see but it would certainly put a more reassuring context on the numbers. I hazzard a disappointing guess that this is not the case when you look at nuts figures in Italy/Spain.

    Need to get those tests that check for antibodies. I had a temp of 39oC for a day couple of days weeks ago and didn’t think much of it. But for all I know my whole family had it and are immune.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Over a 1000 health care workers are positive for Covid19. Claiming less than 10% directly due to work. Vast majority due to point contact from outside work.

    If true this indicates there are a lot more positive cases in the population.
    60x > 1,000x, depending on whose figures you work off. 1,000x was a throw-away remark at UK press conference last week.

    We probably have had north of 250,000 infections so far, using 60x, it has been wild in the community here since late Jan.


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