CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Saw the vitamin D recommendation in some Irish papers yesterday. Seems like western countries media can’t even research properly. Same thing with the whole distance and masks situation that’s changed recently.

All this information was available at The start of febaryary for anybody interested in this. I’d say more boardsies who were on the first thread with me know more about this for months, then some countries that seem to be so slow to cop on to these things.

“Don’t trust the Chinese on anything” is such a naieve approach to take. It’s not that their authority’s haven’t made mistakes or haven’t lied at different times. But a lot of what they said months ago and what they did to control it is now being confirmed and replicated.

It’s quite remarkable how politics and xenophobia can be so self destructive to the response of some countries.

In terms of honesty of numbers, I generally believe the amount tested and confirmed cases in most countries. The deaths not so much. I’d say that there has been a bit of fudging , possible down to admin or negligence. Are people who die , but hadn’t been tested for CoOVID19 automatically tested for the virus? Are all rhespiratory related deaths checked for COVID19? It doesn’t necessarily have to be a conspiracy against countries but mistakes are being made by everyone so it wouldn’t be a surprise if a lot of Covid deaths are unreported.

Beasty wrote: »

They may have done getting on for 5,000 swabs at one stage, but had to back off doing them as the "lab" capacity was only capable of delivering around 1,500 to 2,000 a day

Personally I think the "positives" figures are pretty meaningless for understanding just how far this is embedded in the population. I do think testing remains very important for healthcare workers and those who are particularly vulnerable, including understanding if specific nursing homes are affected. Unfortunately the daily headline "figures" of those infected have become some kind of (completely inaccurate) measure of "how we are doing". They serve a purpose of giving the appearance we are fully informed of what's going on, but the Government and HSE simply do not have the resources to provide that sort of info

The death, hospitalisation and ICU figures are far more meaningful, but even they are ignoring people who have not tested positive but are infected

I posted earlier about South Korea's "testing, testing, testing" approach, but we've probably (and understandably given the shortage of testing capabilities) missed that boat, as has probably every other Western country with the possible exception of Germany

I agree to a degree.

We may of missed the testing boat now , but we should build up the testing resources for the longer term. We should aim for South Korea’s testing capacity in the long term.

There is a strong chance we may end up fighting this for the next 2 years. I’d be thinking if by June/ July they start to lower restrictions, it’s imperative that we are ready at that time to have the testing capacity to mange this over the coming years. If we can learn from this we can actually be ahead of the curve for the next wave.

One thing I suppose the testing does is it keeps people in check to a degeee.

If we weren’t testing and the official numbers were not rising , some idiots would take that as a sign we are grand. I’d say there would be a lot of pressure on the government to open up services again.

For all the intelligence we think we have as a society there can be massive pockets of mass idiocy at times. Cheltenham, European soccer matches , still going on cruises in middle of pandemic, still traveling despite warnings, it really is remarkable amount of people going full retard.

awec wrote: »

My coworker is married to a nurse. My uncle's second cousin is a doctor. I had a chat in Lidl to a woman whose next door neighbour is married to a hospital porter.

These second / third / fourth hand info posts are getting tiresome.

Go for a nap if you are tíred.