CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

the UK lockdown over here (i live in Sasana) , has had a bit of weird side-benefit for myself anyway.

i've managed to finally complete the electronic album i've never quite gotten around to finishing off. I'll be uploading it to Bandcamp or YouTube or wherever for free in the next few days

I kind of do wonder if we'll see a surge in Indie artists because of this whole lockdown palava.
Could actually turn out to be quite an interesting year artistically.

( note : am not downplaying Corona.. it's bloody awful.. but there are a few white pills )

fritzelly wrote: »

Yes and they didn't order them off Aliexpress (like some countries) - they went thru official channels to approved suppliers
Every country in the world is trying to get them and I would hazard a guess this company are just throwing everything in to the orders with no quality control on what is being supplied just to fulfill the orders - which is what probably happened here rather than the company saying no we don't have that stock
I don't think you can lay all the blame at the HSE's door

The world is too dependent on China for this sort of thing!

How are they allowed to get away with that? they are costing lives and taking millions of euros for way below standard products.
Also, how come other countries seem to have full body suits but Irish nurses get this? It's not making sense tbh.

Also, we have thousands of designers, dress makers, design students, seamstresses all over the country. NCAD, LIT and hundreds of FE colleges around the country have fully kitted out fashion design making studios with materials and industrial sewing machines, surely they could be redeployed to making PPE?
Dunnes Stores alone has a a large amount of employed designers.

fritzelly wrote: »

Last time I was in hospital on the operation ward (not so long ago) it wasn't that warm - it was pleasant enough not to be freezing in a gown but certainly wasn't sweating heat

Last time I was visiting someone was in June a number of years back, heating was on, radiators were on, windows were open because it was too hot. It perfectly explained to me how backward the public health system in Ireland was towards managing a budget. It's the very same in Garda stations too, money to burn.

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Are you serious? What an awful thing to say!

The world didn't feel the need to 'do something' to the USA in 1918 - the Spanish Flu Pandamic came from a bird farm in Kansas!

well to be utterly fair to Trump, he has been banging on and on and on and on about CHYNA

when everyone else was refusing to talk about our utter dependency on "Chyna", Trump was right out there saying that this dependency isn't good at all for us in the West.

Am not a Trump supporter, but he was bang on about the whole China thing.

https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1246252906891710464?s=20

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1246252906891710464?s=20

if one is utterly logical and dispassionate , what Trump is doing here is utterly correct - he's telling the Corporate world to either be "American" or fck off.

Now it could be all bluster and "fake news" or whatever - i get that. But there is a strong message coming from the White House - supply American hospitals. End of.

The HSE should have stepped in and found a way to buy every single mask from Irema, the surgical mask company in co. Limerick back in February.

By the beginning of March, Irema were making 1.3 Million Masks a week and were increasing that to 2.6 Million masks a week.

They were exporting “most of the masks internationally to western Europe and the Middle East and also selling to China.”


The HSE really missed the boat on that one.

Imagine if they had bought all the Irema Masks for just 4 weeks in a row – we would now have 10.6 Million surgical and Respirator Masks.

I heard in the briefing 2 nights ago that they are going to negotiate with a company in Limerick. (Should have happened weeks ago)

March 3rd:
‘Limerick Firm reaping benefits of soaring Face Mask Demand Around World’
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/limerick-firm-reaping-benefits-of-soaring-face-mask-demand-around-world-985474.html

ThePopehimself wrote: »

The HSE should have stepped in and found a way to buy every single mask from Irema, the surgical mask company in co. Limerick back in February.

By the beginning of March, Irema were making 1.3 Million Masks a week and were increasing that to 2.6 Million masks a week.

They were exporting “most of the masks internationally to western Europe and the Middle East and also selling to China.”


The HSE really missed the boat on that one.

Imagine if they had bought all the Irema Masks for just 4 weeks in a row – we would now have 10.6 Million surgical and Respirator Masks.

I heard in the briefing 2 nights ago that they are going to negotiate with a company in Limerick. (Should have happened weeks ago)

March 3rd:
‘Limerick Firm reaping benefits of soaring Face Mask Demand Around World’
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/limerick-firm-reaping-benefits-of-soaring-face-mask-demand-around-world-985474.html

good god. i didn't know that. If they'd bought up all the masks and put them in storage, Ireland would now be at the centre of the international mask trade, and would be able to name a price. Which would go some way to fixing the economic impact of Corona.

And they completely dropped the ball on this.

Staggering incompetence. My jaw is literally dropping on that news story. Wow.

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

How are they allowed to get away with that? they are costing lives and taking millions of euros for way below standard products.
Also, how come other countries seem to have full body suits but Irish nurses get this? It's not making sense tbh.

Also, we have thousands of designers, dress makers, design students, seamstresses all over the country. NCAD, LIT and hundreds of FE colleges around the country have fully kitted out fashion design making studios with materials and industrial sewing machines, surely they could be redeployed to making PPE?
Dunnes Stores alone has a a large amount of employed designers.

i know the vast majority of folks on Boards hate Trump - i get it.. But what has he been banging on and on and on and on for years, like a Missus Doyle on repeat.

CHYNA

this lockdown should serve as a HUGE wakeup call for all of us.

Support your local businesses. Go to your local butcher. Go to your local tailor. Go to your local farmer. Support your local artist. Lidl/Aldi/Tesco won't save you money in the long run - because once all of those local folks are out of business , all those big supermarkets jack up the prices.

I live in Sasana, where this has run riot - and anytime i'm back in Cork, i'm always shocked at how cheap the meat is in the English market. Compared to Sasana. This is what these corporates do - low prices for a while, everyone else goes out of business, then the price hikes kick in.

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

good god. i didn't know that. If they'd bought up all the masks and put them in storage, Ireland would now be at the centre of the international mask trade, and would be able to name a price. Which would go some way to fixing the economic impact of Corona.

And they completely dropped the ball on this.

Staggering incompetence. My jaw is literally dropping on that news story. Wow.

Yep. Ireland dropped the ball on Masks period.

They should have started buying up masks last January.

fritzelly wrote: »

Asked the theoretical question how this would affect trade with China a few weeks ago (may have been sooner, all days roll into one these days) on here late at night (when normal people are usually browsing) and would it make the western world start bringing manufacturing home (not war but similar)

After seeing the sub par PPE, kits etc and being reliant on almost entirely on China to supply these may make countries have a serious think about it.

Infect the world then make money off helping them :rolleyes:

America owes 1 trillion dollars to China cos they buy lots of stuff from China that they can't make themselves as cheaply as China does.
When this comes to an end the whole world (inc. Ireland) will need to borrow a ****load more money, eventually coming from China, because they have a ****load of people who have to work for peanuts cos they are controlled by a dictatorial government that kills them if they complain.


Economics

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Yep. Ireland dropped the ball on Masks period.

They should have started buying up masks last January.

Are you talking about the masks that work or the ones that don't work?:rolleyes:

fritzelly wrote: »

That's because they shut all the factories (or rather the companies did) and moved production over to China
As it is China is losing a lot of trade now to other Asian countries who are under cutting them without all the red tape that the CCP imposes
So maybe not bring it all back in house but diversify where you do your trade.

Agree with all of that