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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #8432
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Hopefully it's a fraction of of 1pc.
    1pc would be huge.

    Death rate in Italy is about 10.6 per 1000 for 2019. Ours is about 6 per k. But we have a younger pop.


  • #8433
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    it was so bad they had to build a brand new hospital in only a few days to cope

    But the age profile... Has it changed? Lots of young people needing hospital support. Vast majority do recover though, but I wonder if there has been a change?


  • #8434
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Can the world declare war on China after this?

    Damn those short sleeve gowns


  • #8435
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Death rate in Italy is about 10.6 per 1000 for 2019

    Oh OK. 1pc of people die every year?

    But that's a very different thing from 1pc of people dying from this infection.


  • #8436
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    But the age profile... Has it changed? Lots of young people needing hospital support. Vast majority do recover though, but I wonder if there has been a change?

    Of 115k in Italy only 20k are now fully recovered but even fully recovered, as we've seen from China and other countries, doesn't mean the virus is gone

    Lot of uncertain times ahead


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  • #8437
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Oh OK. 1pc of people die every year?

    But that's a very different thing from 1pc of people dying from this infection.

    Yes. Closer to .1


  • #8438
    lastusername
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭lastusername


    Sweden are taking a very liberal approach...for now: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden/swedens-liberal-pandemic-strategy-questioned-as-stockholm-death-toll-mounts-idUSKBN21L23R

    Seems they are thinking a long shutdown won't be sustainable and so they are doing it very gradually (if at all really). Cafes, bars, shops etc still open.


  • #8439
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Can the world declare war on China after this?

    i am sure they can at least try , not sure if it would be very successful though :rolleyes:


  • #8440
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    irishgeo wrote: »
    It's already approved by the FDA.

    That's somewhat good. Would the HPRA have to approve the drug here for use as Covid-19 treatment?


  • #8441
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    i am sure they can at least try , not sure if it would be very successful though :rolleyes:

    China would never beat a collective bond of countries together. US Europe and overseas would destroy them.


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  • #8442
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/turkey-imposes-curfew-on-youth-shuts-borders-of-31-cities-12608520
    Turkey closes borders of 31 cities in the country, imposes curfew on youths


  • #8443
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    i am sure they can at least try , not sure if it would be very successful though :rolleyes:

    Asked the theoretical question how this would affect trade with China a few weeks ago (may have been sooner, all days roll into one these days) on here late at night (when normal people are usually browsing) and would it make the western world start bringing manufacturing home (not war but similar)

    After seeing the sub par PPE, kits etc and being reliant on almost entirely on China to supply these may make countries have a serious think about it.

    Infect the world then make money off helping them :rolleyes:


  • #8444
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    China would never beat a collective bond of countries together. US Europe and overseas would destroy them.

    And their viruses too :)


  • #8445
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    China would never beat a collective bond of countries together. US Europe and overseas would destroy them.

    Thats whats known as mutually assured destruction.


  • #8446
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours

    The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.

    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-in-lab-c-955457

    What does invitro mean? Is it that it kills it in a lab setting?

    Sorry for the stupid question


  • #8447
    lastusername
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭lastusername


    Stheno wrote: »
    What does invitro mean? Is it that it kills it in a lab setting?

    Sorry for the stupid question

    Yep, basically in a test tube.


  • #8448
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Stheno wrote: »
    What does invitro mean? Is it that it kills it in a lab setting?

    Sorry for the stupid question

    90% of things that work in labs don't work the same in the human body.


  • #8449
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    China would never beat a collective bond of countries together. US Europe and overseas would destroy them.

    Yeah you realise China has nuclear capacity and if people posting that they spread the virus deliberately are to be believed, which I don't, do you expect them not to use their nuclear arsenal when attacked as you describe.


  • #8450
    Sam Quentin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Death rate in Italy is about 10.6 per 1000 for 2019. Ours is about 6 per k. But we have a younger pop.

    Is that 6 deaths per 1k invected people?
    That makes no sense,.we have a much much lower infection rate per head of population compared to Italy...but yet you still do the predictive maths and make it look like we're slowly creeping up to Italian rates!?


  • #8451
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    And their viruses too :)

    talking to the voices in your head?


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  • #8452
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    China would never beat a collective bond of countries together. US Europe and overseas would destroy them.

    in a video game maybe.....


  • #8453
    derfderf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours

    The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.

    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-in-lab-c-955457

    That would be huge. Any country in the world with cattle would have big stockpiles of it.


  • #8454
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246202031104286720?s=20


  • #8455
    piplip87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Tullamore show, Bannow Rathdannhen Show, IVETA national rally among some of the big outdoor events cancelled for the Summer. Tullamore is worrying as it's not due until August. They wouldn't cancel on a whim either.

    I'd say we could be avoiding large crowds until Halloween


  • #8456
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246202031104286720?s=20

    If true this will mean further restrictions will be needed. Obviously joggers heavily breathing and panting while passing dozens of people represent a risk then


  • #8457
    ThePopehimself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    Originally Posted by wakka12 View Post
    According to worldometres:

    Would put mortality around 0.5%- but could be as low as 0.2%(assuming a 75% asymptomatic rate, which seems unlikely and there is no proof that many people are asymptomatic) or as high as 1.2%(assuming asymptomatic is not an actual thing and is simply 'presymptomatic'.)


    [QUOTE=windy shepard henderson;113050623]ok the first question i would ask here is have 60 000 actually died in italy since the start of the year if so thats 10% of the population[/QUOTE]

    60,000 is 10% of 600,000. The population of Italy is 60,000,000


  • #8458
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    wakka12 wrote: »
    If true this will mean further restrictions will be needed. Obviously joggers heavily breathing and panting while passing dozens of people represent a risk then

    Don't know but if the public has been told to wear masks plenty of small companies could have started making them and that would have helped a lot with stocks


  • #8459
    lillycakes2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭lillycakes2


    Our number of cases are not accurate , no countries are, due to lack of testing.....so we do not know what that true figure is. Therefore,We cannot figure out the death rate


  • #8460
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    threeball wrote: »
    Ahead of their time


    Out standing in their own field


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  • #8461
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fujs6i/10423_new_cases_680_new_deaths_in_new_york_today/
    680 deaths in New York today

    The population of New York State is only 19 million and the vast majority of deaths within the city of just 8 million so it is currently probably the most impacted place on earth per capita


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