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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #8402
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,802 ✭✭✭threeball


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours

    The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.

    https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-in-lab-c-955457

    You used to have hurlers on tv advertising dosing cattle with that stuff in the 80s.


  • #8403
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Today in Ireland it was confirmed 2 people in the 25-34 age group died - this isn't an old persons disease, they are just more susceptible to the dangers of it.

    2 of 122 and we don't know if they had underlying conditions.


  • #8404
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    According to worldometres:
    Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

    This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

    The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000.

    If these estimates were true, the mortality rate from COVID-19 would be much lower (around 25 times less) than the case fatality rate based solely on laboratory-confirmed cases and deaths, since it would be underestimating cases (the denominator) by a factor of about 1/100 and deaths by a factor of 1/4.
    Would put mortality around 0.5%- but could be as low as 0.2%(assuming a 75% asymptomatic rate, which seems unlikely and there is no proof that many people are asymptomatic) or as high as 1.2%(assuming asymptomatic is not an actual thing and is simply 'presymptomatic'.)


  • #8405
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    threeball wrote: »
    You used to have hurlers on tv advertising dosing cattle with that stuff in the 80s.

    "Ivomec Pour-on. Kills all known parasites."


  • #8406
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    all about the mane wrote: »
    People say he is stupid etc etc but he is far from that. And that model comment shows he really doesn’t care. Not a great president to have.

    Good con man, not a good president.


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  • #8407
    irishgeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    This seems to be in Australia.

    Wouldn't Ireland have to pass the drug for treatment for Covid-19?

    It's already approved by the FDA.


  • #8408
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    threeball wrote: »
    You used to have hurlers on tv advertising dosing cattle with that stuff in the 80s.

    should have listened to them


  • #8409
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    wakka12 wrote: »
    According to worldometres:


    Would put mortality around 0.5%

    Probably closer to the real numbers


  • #8410
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,802 ✭✭✭threeball


    fryup wrote: »
    should have listened to them

    Ahead of their time


  • #8411
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    wakka12 wrote: »
    According to worldometres:


    Would put mortality around 0.5%- but could be as low as 0.3% or as high as 1%

    Any report that starts with we will take the confirmed and multiply by a large number and multiply the deaths by a small number should be taken with a large pinch of salt until there is definitive evidence either way

    All those reports do is give credence to those saying its no worse than flu when it obviously isn't

    No one even know the real spread of flu every year - they just guesstimate the number


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  • #8412
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Good con man, not a good president.

    He is talking about the whole thing like the entire American population are guests at one of his hotels.


  • #8413
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Any report that starts with we will take the confirmed and multiply by a large number and multiply the deaths by a small number should be taken with a large pinch of salt until there is definitive evidence either way

    All those reports do is give credence to those saying its no worse than flu when it obviously isn't

    The death stats would be far closer to the real figure than the total cases number.


  • #8414
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    2 of 122 and we don't know if they had underlying conditions.

    Did you see the ch4 interview with a doctor in England or Wales? The icu in the hospital is at full capacity now with the operating theatres now shut down and used as additional ICU. A lot of his patients are in their 50s and under. His youngest patient in ICU is early 20s. He said there no commodities. There's no underlying conditions in some of his patients.


  • #8415
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Banditluke. That was an amazing video from C4.
    That poor medic. We really have to reevaluate things after this.


  • #8416
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/2018/03/05/how-many-people-die-a-day-in-the-us/

    Over 1300 deaths in the US today from/with coronavirus out of a typical 7450 deaths per day in the US. It is already having a massive impact on such a large country in a very early stage of the epidemic. If the deaths are excess and not just already ill people dying who happen to have coronavirus then mortality in the country has been inflated by almost 20% because of coronavirus

    And taking this into account can we just consider how unbelievably fake China's numbers are again


  • #8417
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    all about the mane wrote: »
    The death stats would be far closer to the real figure than the total cases number.

    Only if you tested every one in the country and those that have died.
    Anyways the report is meaningless - Worldometers give no link to the report, no sampling size or anything to back up the claim.


  • #8418
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    wakka12 wrote: »
    According to worldometres:


    Would put mortality around 0.5%- but could be as low as 0.2%(assuming a 75% asymptomatic rate, which seems unlikely and there is no proof that many people are asymptomatic) or as high as 1.2%(assuming asymptomatic is not an actual thing and is simply 'presymptomatic'.)

    ok the first question i would ask here is have 60 000 actually died in italy since the start of the year if so thats 10% of the population


  • #8419
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/2018/03/05/how-many-people-die-a-day-in-the-us/

    Over 1300 deaths in the US today from/with coronavirus out of a typical 7450 deaths per day in the US. It is already having a massive impact on such a large country in a very early stage of the epidemic

    Seems to be turning out to be a killer. Not just the flu at all.


  • #8420
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,352 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Anyone get nervous as fúck when they do a normal lone cough? "Was that wet or dry? How many times have I coughed today?"


  • #8421
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    ok the first question i would ask here is have 60 000 actually died in italy since the start of the year if so thats 10% of the population

    No it’s not


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  • #8422
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    Can the world declare war on China after this?


  • #8423
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,802 ✭✭✭threeball


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    He is talking about the whole thing like the entire American population are guests at one of his hotels.

    This is a guy whos been bankrupt 3 times and is only still relevant due to russian mafia money. Hes still convinced hes some hotshot businessman and no matter how he fcuks up he lands on his feet. Its no wonder he acts like he does.


  • #8424
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Anyone get nervous as fúck when they do a normal lone cough? "Was that wet or dry? How many times have I coughed today?"

    Everytime I'm in the supermarket - furtive glance around, anyone looking at me, then let rip


  • #8425
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    ok the first question i would ask here is have 60 000 actually died in italy since the start of the year if so thats 10% of the population

    60,000 is 0.1% of the Italian population:p That is still a very large percent of the population killed by coronavirus in just a month though


  • #8426
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    The high rate of young people in ICU is worrying me. It doesn't translate to deaths thankfully, most of them come through it OK.

    Is this new though? Anyone know if the original cases in Wuhan had similar young people in ICU?


  • #8427
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    wakka12 wrote: »
    60,000 is 0.1% of the Italian population:p That is still a very large percent of the population killed by coronavirus in just a month though

    Death rate overall is about 1%. So covid accounting for 10% of deaths


  • #8428
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    all about the mane wrote: »
    No it’s not

    sorry its not of course its not my maths are crap , but if 60 000 people died since the start of the year would be noticed a lot more surly


  • #8429
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    sorry its not of course its not my maths are crap , but if 60 000 people died since the start of the year would be noticed a lot more surly

    Not a huge number overall going by normal mortality rates


  • #8430
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Death rate overall is about 1%. So covid accounting for 10% of deaths

    Hopefully it's a fraction of of 1pc.
    1pc would be huge.


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  • #8431
    windy shepard henderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    The high rate of young people in ICU is worrying me. It doesn't translate to deaths thankfully, most of them come through it OK.

    Is this new though? Anyone know if the original cases in Wuhan had similar young people in ICU?

    it was so bad they had to build a brand new hospital in only a few days to cope


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