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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #8342
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Sorry I don't know what medium you are referring to, have you a link?

    But I am not surprised at this either. Thanks.

    It's his daily press conference on CNN


  • #8343
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    The CDC in the US now advising wearing masks while out shopping etc.


  • #8344
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Most other foodstuffs are packaged or wrapped and would have been last exposed to potential infection more than 75 hours ago. Hence leaving the shopping to sit for three days before unpacking or using, is good practice,

    Isn't the risk of this kind of transmission very small?

    Honestly, who has time to wipe down groceries. Wouldn't we be better off if the government could train people not to cough and sneeze without a tissue through some new sort of legislation or whatever. Slap people lacking such manners with fines.


  • #8345
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Sorry I don't know what medium you are referring to, have you a link?

    But I am not surprised at this either. Thanks.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/


  • #8346
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Not sure if this as been posted. An incredible representation by NHK (Japanese Broadcaster) on how droplets spread.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvFkQizTT4


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  • #8347
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    mr president,
    I would like to congratulate you on being the first true socialist president
    - providing free healthcare to the poor
    - providing $2T social payments to laid off workers
    - bringing nuclear powered carriers into port

    the world thanks you.


  • #8348
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Stheno wrote: »
    Trump losing the plot altogether
    That would go down as the least surprising news I’ve heard during this whole crisis.


  • #8349
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    I know it’s probably not feasible but I think we really should be testing a random selection of people around the country to get an idea of what kind of asymptomatic numbers we have in the country. I know we’re stretched with testing but it would make such a difference.


  • #8350
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Isn't the risk of this kind of transmission very small?

    Honestly, who has time to wipe down groceries. Wouldn't we be better off if the government could train people not to cough and sneeze without a tissue through some new sort of legislation or whatever. Slap people lacking such manners with fines.

    Plenty of time if you are one of the 1000s not working and also if you have an inderlying condition you ll do everything as much as possible to reduce the risk.


  • #8351
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Stheno wrote: »
    Trump losing the plot altogether

    Pretty sure someone has posted this exact same thing every day Trump has had a press conference on this.


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  • #8352
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    kyote00 wrote: »
    mr president,
    I would like to congratulate you on being the first true socialist president
    - providing free healthcare to the poor
    - providing $2T social payments to laid off workers
    - bringing nuclear powered carriers into port

    the world thanks you.
    Sorry to quibble but the vast majority of the 2 trillion is not for laid off workers, nor are many going to see that for months


  • #8353
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    It's an odd health system in the US, the government seems to control the supply of ventilators but they are being given to private hospitals.


  • #8354
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,802 ✭✭✭threeball


    I wouldnt be surprised to see the US at 2000 deaths per day by the middle of next week. This is getting away from them and theres large swathes paying next to no heed to any measures.


  • #8355
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    I know it’s probably not feasible but I think we really should be testing a random selection of people around the country to get an idea of what kind of asymptomatic numbers we have in the country. I know we’re stretched with testing but it would make such a difference.

    For that we really need an antibody test

    The current test only confirms you have the virus at the time of testing

    Antibody test shows if you had it

    Since mid Feb I know probably 25 plus people who had worse than normal persistent chest issues of some kind all of whom would like to get a test like that


  • #8356
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    "All our patients are in their 50's or younger"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlbCmRJMW4

    Stay at home ffs

    Christ almighty, that's shocking. What that doctor is saying is shocking. Absolutely shocking.


  • #8357
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Christ almighty, that's shocking. What that doctor is saying is shocking. Absolutely shocking.

    Yet some are calling for a relaxation of restrictions.


  • #8358
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    you can really sense the tension in the Trump press conference.

    there peak is going to be very very bad unfortunately.


  • #8359
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    For that we really need an antibody test

    The current test only confirms you have the virus at the time of testing

    Antibody test shows if you had it

    Since mid Feb I know probably 25 plus people who had worse than normal persistent chest issues of some kind all of whom would like to get a test like that

    If we are to have any hope of ever returning to normality,

    we need to test everyone....otherwise,we're just shooting into the dark and hoping for the best without a vaccine


  • #8360
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Stheno wrote: »
    For that we really need an antibody test

    The current test only confirms you have the virus at the time of testing

    Antibody test shows if you had it

    Since mid Feb I know probably 25 plus people who had worse than normal persistent chest issues of some kind all of whom would like to get a test like that

    The antibody test would be brilliant too but I meant for us to do the normal test so we could identify potential asymptomatic spreaders like they have done in Iceland. Maybe in a few weeks or months we can implement this.


  • #8361
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    250k people infected with a disease and the press conference decends in to a discussion on the price of oil, they really deserve who they vote for.


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  • #8362
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    "All our patients are in their 50's or younger"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlbCmRJMW4

    Stay at home ffs

    that doctor came across very well.

    looks like a lockdown until anti body testing is out & then re introduce immune people to society.


  • #8363
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    MD1990 wrote: »
    you can really sense the tension in the Trump press conference.

    there peak is going to be very very bad unfortunately.

    I hope, for the sake of those on the platform, that you can’t get the virus from licking thr president’s ass.:eek:


  • #8364
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    What will our peak look like? It seems we are not to far away from it now. My worry is thing don't get much worse and things dont improve that much so it keeps is in limbo for a long time. So the restriction are doing a good job and the hospitals aren't overwhelmed but there still is 200-300 new cases being diagnosed and 15-30 deaths per day for a long period. Its hard to lift restrictions becuse the risks are high but its also hard to continue as we are because the risks to the economy are too great.


  • #8365
    jobeenfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    giveitholly wrote: »
    If u are tired of the news and it is affecting u then step away from it for a few days instead of coming on here asking a heap of questions,it will do your mind the world of good

    Yes and watch comedy's and listen to your fav music. No point worrying about the world, you can't fix it. This will end eventually and we will be mentally stronger IMO.


  • #8366
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

    I really don't know what to say anymore about this President. But I think he is an idiot and is talking through his hat.

    What baffles me is the fact that no one really calls him out on his idiocy. Cannot figure that out, unless the President is beyond any denigration.

    The State Governors have more power than he does now. Will the Rep Governors look after their State or go against him I wonder.


  • #8367
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    "i was never involved in a model, at least not that kind of model"

    LOOOOOOOL what kind of sociopath makes a joke like that when his country is heading for thousands of deaths a day??


  • #8368
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Did Trump just say "The professionals were involved in the model, I was never involved in the model, well at least this type of model"

    Wtffffffff lol


  • #8369
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    I know it’s probably not feasible but I think we really should be testing a random selection of people around the country to get an idea of what kind of asymptomatic numbers we have in the country. I know we’re stretched with testing but it would make such a difference.

    It would be great to get reliable antibody tests to see if people had it and had either really mild symptoms or none at all. Maybe down the line and it could be done at home.


  • #8370
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,701 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Did Trump just say "The professionals were involved in the model, I was never involved in the model, well at least this type of model"

    Wtffffffff lol


    Yea, even making the shape of a girl with his hands every time he said '' models ''


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  • #8371
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    The antibody test would be brilliant too but I meant for us to do the normal test so we could identify potential asymptomatic spreaders like they have done in Iceland. Maybe in a few weeks or months we can implement this.
    Antibody tests are available, 15 min for result, BUT practical reliability rate as yet unknown.

    If error rate proves to be consistent it could be used to do the statistically valid random population sample testing we should have been doing from the outset.

    For all I know we have being doing just that with the swabs, it's a more comforting explanation of our all-over-the-place testing that it just being yet another HSE cluster****.


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