CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Bobtheman · 03-04-2020 03:22PM

Can the test results be trusted as the true picture given the slow pace of testing? I mean are they testing people who have symptoms but pass 14 days with the symptoms Im not sure.

Multipass · 03-04-2020 03:22PM

Had to shop for me and my parents today - the supermarkets are raking in cash. We’re having to buy all sorts of things from them that we would normally buy elsewhere. They effectively have a monopoly. I think it would be fair for some kind of extra tax on their profits for this period, they should have to give back to this country - especially the multinationals.

iwillyeah1234 · 03-04-2020 03:23PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Mentally I found this week more difficult than the previous 10 days.

As I wrap up what was a very tough working week from home my prevailing thought is, I will never take the greatness of health, freedom and what we have on our doorstep for granted again.

I like a big annual international holiday but cannot wait until this is over. Next couple of holidays I take is going to be 2-3 weeks in a camper spending money at home in businesses that come through this.

St Patrick’s day next year is going to be the absolute mother of all Paddy’s days. Sentiments entirely with you mate.

Multipass · 03-04-2020 03:24PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Well the answer is simple.

This is not an ordinary winter flu.

It’s not simple. You said lives over money. Tens of thousands is a lot of lives. Why not lockdown for them?

03-04-2020 03:25PM

shesty wrote: »

To change the topic slightly...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/coronavirus-first-mainland-chinese-city-bans-sale-of-dog-and-cat-meat-1.4219994?mode=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Wonder if other Asian countries follow this

paleoperson · 03-04-2020 03:26PM

ITman88 wrote: »

The personal attacks are obviously within forum rules which is a surprise.

Nothing you have stated is based on fact. Nothing.
It’s articles you have read and decided it’s fact and give you authority to post on forums in the manner you have.
24% is utter rubbish.
However you believe what you want, it’s a discussion forum.
Which you are allowed break the rules of for some reason

The central statistics office of England is "utter rubbish"?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/england-and-wales-coronavirus-death-toll-40-higher-than-previously-stated

Many more deaths are starting to be disregarded as pneumonia or another illness rather than Covid 19 despite it being the obvious cause.. This is going to increase dramatically in the coming few weeks as they open back the economy.

This is what they're doing in China right now as they are starting to open things back up, with millions of people whistleblowing about it.

Believing the government spiel about the numbers is one thing, it is hard to imagine someone how or why someone would have so little grasp of reality and so clueless as to think they are OVERREPORTING numbers just to tank their own economies.

BanditLuke · 03-04-2020 03:26PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

One of our own has died as a result of being on the NHS frontline. Mother of 3 kids. Only 39.

Aimee O’Rourke RIP

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8183773/Mother-three-NHS-nurse-36-caught-coronavirus-treating-patients-hospital-died.html

Oh my god that is awful

deisedevil · 03-04-2020 03:26PM

Bobtheman wrote: »

Can the test results be trusted as the true picture given the slow pace of testing? I mean are they testing people who have symptoms but pass 14 days with the symptoms Im not sure.

No, they can't. The testing is nothing like a true reflection at all. Not even close.

Mwengwe · 03-04-2020 03:26PM

Multipass wrote: »

Why don’t we lockdown every winter in that case - we could save tens of thousands of lives a year in Europe from flu. It’s always a balance, there is no absolute respect for life in any decision.

Yeah in fairness I wonder how some people blank out the fact that people have been dying of starvation daily while we go about our western lifestyles.

mikeoc85 · 03-04-2020 03:26PM

Multipass wrote: »

It’s not simple. You said lives over money. Tens of thousands is a lot of lives. Why not lockdown for them?

Agree with this.

We are absolutely right to have this lockdown.

But people claiming that others are more concerned with the economy, is downright absurd and not taking into account reality

wakka12 · 03-04-2020 03:28PM

political analyst wrote: »

So you think he's talking bull - but do you deny his claim that the 1957 pandemic didn't lead to a lockdown?

Of course I dont deny that, do I think its right? Maybe if they had locked down 100k would have died then instead of 1 million

Naggdefy · 03-04-2020 03:30PM

Multipass wrote: »

It’s not simple. You said lives over money. Tens of thousands is a lot of lives. Why not lockdown for them?

It is simple. You don't lock down for what are considered normal health risks. Colds, seasonal flu, vomiting bugs.

Covid 19 is a novel virus with a higher death rate. It's the unknown extra deaths you're trying to save.

froog · 03-04-2020 03:30PM

they should stop reporting number of cases in the daily press conference. the testing program has completely broken down and the data is meaningless. daily deaths and ICU figures are all that matters now.

branie2 · 03-04-2020 03:30PM

When the cinemas open again, you won't see me for dust when I head to our one in town.

03-04-2020 03:30PM

Multipass wrote: »

Had to shop for me and my parents today - the supermarkets are raking in cash. We’re having to buy all sorts of things from them that we would normally buy elsewhere. They effectively have a monopoly. I think it would be fair for some kind of extra tax on their profits for this period, they should have to give back to this country - especially the multinationals.

What would you normally buy outside of a supermarket?

fritzelly · 03-04-2020 03:31PM

Multipass wrote: »

Had to shop for me and my parents today - the supermarkets are raking in cash. We’re having to buy all sorts of things from them that we would normally buy elsewhere. They effectively have a monopoly. I think it would be fair for some kind of extra tax on their profits for this period, they should have to give back to this country - especially the multinationals.

Shop provides essential service - tax more

Yeah your logic makes perfect sense

tobefrank321 · 03-04-2020 03:32PM

skellig_rocks wrote: »

The end of the article:

:eek:

The Chinese will still continue with their disgusting practices like cutting fins off sharks and throwing them back into the ocean to starve to death, or encouraging the catching and killing of rhinos and elephants for their ivory, tigers for their claws and many more.

Its time for the Chinese mindset to enter the 21st century including around traditional medicine which for the most part is superstitious bullsh*t.

Mwengwe · 03-04-2020 03:32PM

Multipass wrote: »

Had to shop for me and my parents today - the supermarkets are raking in cash. We’re having to buy all sorts of things from them that we would normally buy elsewhere. They effectively have a monopoly. I think it would be fair for some kind of extra tax on their profits for this period, they should have to give back to this country - especially the multinationals.

Or pass it down to their employees for their service during this period.

Dr. Colossus · 03-04-2020 03:32PM

UK death rate heading towards 10%

munsterlegend · 03-04-2020 03:33PM

What time is the briefing today?

Rvsmmnps · 03-04-2020 03:34PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI&t=275s

Igotadose · 03-04-2020 03:35PM

Wow. Per RTE, some of the kit recently acquired from China is not fit for purpose. Meshes with stories from other countries. Sad if true and there's planeloads more of it coming in.

"Part of the consignment of Personal Protective Equipment, which was recently distributed to Covid-19 test centres, mobile ambulance units and hospitals, is being described as "not fit for purpose" and "unusable" by medical staff."

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0403/1128300-ppe-covid-19-ireland/

Mwengwe · 03-04-2020 03:35PM

Dr. Colossus wrote: »

UK death rate heading towards 10%

Their testing has been practically non-existent so the stat is almost meaningless.

jackboy · 03-04-2020 03:35PM

Multipass wrote: »

Why don’t we lockdown every winter in that case - we could save tens of thousands of lives a year in Europe from flu. It’s always a balance, there is no absolute respect for life in any decision.

I’m thinking after this maybe there will be some extra actions taken every winter to reduce flu deaths.

One thing we are seeing is the ease that this spreads in hospitals. New practices should come out of this experience.

Shaking hands at mass should be gone for good. It may be time to get rid of shaking hands at funerals also.

Most people still going to work even though they are in a state with colds and flus may change.

There are many many learnings from this which could be applied to flu season. What is culturally considered appropriate levels of hygiene may be stricter after this.

the.red.baron · 03-04-2020 03:35PM

Dr. Colossus wrote: »

UK death rate heading towards 10%

it because they aren't testing widely

Naggdefy · 03-04-2020 03:36PM

Multipass wrote: »

Had to shop for me and my parents today - the supermarkets are raking in cash. We’re having to buy all sorts of things from them that we would normally buy elsewhere. They effectively have a monopoly. I think it would be fair for some kind of extra tax on their profits for this period, they should have to give back to this country - especially the multinationals.

That sums it up where you're coming from. Most people wouldn't even notice or care less. But you begrudge them! Just shows what's at the heart of your arguments.

the.red.baron · 03-04-2020 03:37PM

what time is the meeting today?

Whats the difference between avergae, mean and median

Why can't they start the presser on time

I think we will get to 2 million tomorrow

Leos great

Leos ****e

Have SF dissappeared

anything I missed?

mosii · 03-04-2020 03:38PM

Why could they not open boxes from batches ,and look at the ppe to see if its the right quality and fit for purpose.They should have heard and learned from other countries .

Dr. Colossus · 03-04-2020 03:38PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Their testing has been practically non-existent so the stat is almost meaningless.

It's not meaningless. They are the most accurate stats available.

Sam Russell · 03-04-2020 03:39PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Expect to pay €5000 for a phone or tv, affordable luxuries will disappear if we move to European only production.

My TV was manufactured in Eastern Europe - can't remember where. Also Turkey make lots of TVs and other electronic stuff.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP