CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I loved the 1980s and am glad that we are heading back there! I have my old ZX Spectrum somewhere in the attic.....

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

A classic "that's racist" from you. No race was mentioned, simply ILLEGALS!

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Maybe it isn't the best word to use but it was his first time ever having to apply for social welfare and they thoroughly checked him out. Docs etc.

paleoperson wrote: »

What the hell are you talking about?

You have over a 15% chance of dying if you're over 80.

How is that "extremely low"?

If you're over 70 you are also in a high risk bracket.

If you're in your 40s or 50s it's still like 1%, which is hardly "extremely low" for being put into the ground. Many in their 30s have also died.

Up to 20% of young people getting it require ICU or ventilators or they will die also.

Many of us have other respiratory conditions and don't know how things are going to go.

You ****ing eejit.

Naggdefy wrote: »

Is this not eugenics though? We can't quantify Covid deaths and subsequent suicides. So you're saying those we know will die from Covid, mostly older and sick people are not as important as a younger cohort who lose their jobs?

And we can quantify how many will die from Covid much more easily than economic effect. Just eugenics dressed up nicely.

Naggdefy wrote: »

Not fully but we can see the daily reports.

No one has a clue about the economy, most jobs will be there when Covid is over.

It's clear from all your posts you don't rate older or sick people's lives. Yet we're supposed to believe you're gravely worried about post Covid suicides:rolleyes:

Naggdefy wrote: »

Is this not eugenics though? We can't quantify Covid deaths and subsequent suicides. So you're saying those we know will die from Covid, mostly older and sick people are not as important as a younger cohort who lose their jobs?

And we can quantify how many will die from Covid much more easily than economic effect. Just eugenics dressed up nicely.

Friday, 3 April, 2020

On the Late Massacre in Lombardy

In February 1957, a new influenza virus emerged in East Asia, which doctors named A (H2N2) and which was known to the world, in the days before political correctness, as Asian Flu.

It is estimated that Asian Flu killed 1.1 million people around the world and 116,000 in a United States, which then had a population just over half what it is today.

Researchers estimate that about 25 percent of Americans were infected. The American liner the President Cleveland arrived in San Francisco from Japan with 96 percent of its passengers and crew either ill or convalescent.

Nevertheless, in 1957 life in the USA and elsewhere went on pretty much as normal.

There was no lockdown. Is a global lockdown necessary in the face of Covid-19?

If Covid-19 is the pandemic that governments have feared for decades, that can kill a large proportion of the world’s population unless checked, then the answer is yes, but is it?

There are a fair amount of reasons to suggest that we have panicked unnecessarily but, on the other hand, why are the hospitals in Lombardy and Spain in chaos?

It might be partly because the winter was so very mild.

There’s an old saying in England,
‘A green winter makes a full churchyard.’
What that folk wisdom means is that germs that a severe winter kills off supposedly flourish in a mild winter and kill off lots of elderly people.

This winter in Italy the flu was very mild because of the unusually warm weather and killed many fewer older Italians than average, according to a report by the Italian Ministry of Health. The report argued that old people with chronic diseases who survived until February and March then became victims of Covid-19.

This partly explains why many people over 65 have suddenly died in Lombardy, but there are other factors.

Italy’s more than 12,000 deaths have happened mostly in Northern cities and towns, but there overall mortality among people age 65 and over was 6% below an average of previous years. In fact, total number of deaths throughout Europe in March 2020 is less than the total numbers in March 2019.


Large numbers of old and frail people, who were going to die anyway, will die of the Coronavirus, as well as a few younger and healthy people. Far more old and frail people will die in hospital with, not of, it and those deaths will also be added to the death toll in the media in most countries at any rate

On the other hand, the deaths of many people in Italy who die with the virus at home or in nursing homes will go unreported.

In Bergamo and nearby towns deaths in March were many times more than last year, which would strongly suggest that Covid-19 is responsible, but in fact most are not assigned to Covid-19.

What is going on?

boetstark wrote: »

Not sure lads where this good forecast is coming from