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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    MadYaker wrote: »
    No cases in North Korea?? What’s their secret?!

    Easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,433 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    screamer wrote: »
    800+ deaths in nursing homes due to coronavirus that they conveniently forgot to report before, so a huge spike that’s not really a spike. BTW we have people dying in nursing homes here too who are not even being sent to hospitals and I’ve no idea if these deaths are reported in our official figures either.

    They are in fact : Dr Holohan says they are recording all nursing home deaths


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    macmahon wrote: »
    So if the test comes back negative for CV19 then you should just presume that if your feeling unwell with symptoms then you just have a different strain of coronavirus then. Thanks

    Or any other mild respiratory illness. Could be bacterial. Or another virus. Many agents can cause cold like or flu like symptoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭take everything


    RTE talking about the pros and cons of masks.
    Unsurprisingly, the virologist from Trinity slow to recommend them while many countries now recommending/mandating them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    cnocbui wrote: »
    How do yo know how many cases there are in NK?

    They were being advised by Donald Trump at an early stage on how to deal with the virus............you just call it flu, and then nobody gets coronavirus!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Whats this lady on primetime got against masks.

    They thought us how to wash our hands

    They thought us how to keep our distance

    They can teach us how to wear a f00king mask


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    If a lot of other countries release nursing home deaths like France, it will be sobering to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Clown professor on Prime Time still trying to argue masks don't work and the fool public would end up infecting themselves.

    They are giving them out free to people in other countries. In Ireland they apparently are charging 8 euro for a single crappy cloth one in the pharmacy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,161 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    There will be a huge surge next week due to tests being shipped to Germany for analysis. That will interfere with reporting figures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    cnocbui wrote: »
    How do yo know how many cases there are in NK?

    The Leader has spoken


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Simple chart of COVID-19 deaths in Ireland since 11th. March.

    Black Total
    Green East
    Red South
    Blue West
    Yellow N. West


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Wibbs wrote: »
    My hall table agrees.

    Whatever you do, don't listen to the loo, it talks s***e.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    screamer wrote: »
    800+ deaths in nursing homes due to coronavirus that they conveniently forgot to report before, so a huge spike that’s not really a spike. BTW we have people dying in nursing homes here too who are not even being sent to hospitals and I’ve no idea if these deaths are reported in our official figures either.
    Was it more about adding deaths from the nursing homes from previous days to the total than an actual daily total?
    Can anyone clarify before it is overhyped please ?

    It might look like a spike because it was only added today in one go, but it doesn't change the fact that these are still people who died with/because of Covid19. And I do think that if lots of those who died with Covid19 had not caught it, they would have in all likelihood lived a good few years more, so, to me, they died because of Covid19.
    MadYaker wrote: »
    No cases in North Korea?? What’s their secret?!

    If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's because they deal with infected cases the same way the Daleks would. No living infected cases, nothing to report.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    That line is orange not red


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,767 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Strazdas wrote: »
    In fairness, very little was known about the virus and transmission at that stage. There was talk from scientists you would need to spend around 15 minutes with a person before you could catch Covid from them.

    That is only if they didn't cough or sneeze in that time. If they do either of those uncovered, you get it 0.1 second later, never mind 15 min.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Gael23 wrote: »
    There will be a huge surge next week due to tests being shipped to Germany for analysis. That will interfere with reporting figures

    That's a good thing, we will get more accurate figures of who is positive.

    As Tony said the numbers are more about knowing who to use contact tracing on to identify more people to be tested/self isolate.

    Are you saying it is a bad thing to have more data?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭take everything


    Whats this lady on primetime got against masks.

    They thought us how to wash our hands

    They thought us how to keep our distance

    They can teach us how to wear a f00king mask

    It's simply bull**** like I always thought.
    If they'd just be straight that it's a supply issue I'd have far more respect for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,098 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    If a lot of other countries release nursing home deaths like France, it will be sobering to say the least.

    The Economist had an article on this today actually (not just nursing homes)



    https://twitter.com/J_CD_T/status/1245739663421292544


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,767 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    splinter65 wrote: »
    The Leader has spoken

    Sounds more like 4 gunshots than intelligible speech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    I'm thankful to be in my mid 40s.

    I don't fear growing old for dying. I fear it for the loss of control I'll have over the fundamentals of life. I fear it for the loss of dignity, others cleaning me, helping me with going to the toilet, or when I can't make the toilet.

    I want to live to a mobile self sufficient 100 and die in my sleep with a clear conscience. Am I asking for too much :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Or it could be flu

    Yes thankyou. I think it is very important for people to be very mindful of all wording that all media use during a plandemic. Coronavirus is just not Covid19 it also can be flu and just a cold (SARS),(MERS) etc, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    It's simply bull**** like I always thought.
    If they'd just be straight that it's a supply issue I'd have far more respect for them.

    Yeah, like a lot of people I think if masks were in plentiful supply they’d be advising us to wear them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,161 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    That's a good thing, we will get more accurate figures of who is positive.

    As Tony said the numbers are more about knowing who to use contact tracing on to identify more people to be tested/self isolate.

    Are you saying it is a bad thing to have more data?

    Depending when the tests were done, some of the patients are likely well on the way to recovery but being reported as new cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    That French figure is kind of scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    That French figure is kind of scary.

    My brother is in France near the Swiss border he and his two little girls have had it and were quite sick but his wife didn’t get it at all, or if she did she had just an irritating cough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Whats this lady on primetime got against masks.

    They thought us how to wash our hands
    They thought us how to keep our distance
    They can teach us how to wear a f00king mask


    The bit I don't get is the assumption that the mask will end up covered in virus and fiddling with it will infect you. If it gets virus on it then it is really dangerous but that virus would have got onto your face if you had not been wearing it. You are still cutting the odds down by wearing it.


    To me it is an insurance policy.



    And of course you are right about the "training" BS. 3 or 4 steps and you are done.


    Of course you have to continue with all the other measures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,161 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Milan has shut its crematorium as it can no longer meet demand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,960 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    macmahon wrote: »
    Yes thankyou. I think it is very important for people to be very mindful of all wording that all media use during a plandemic. Coronavirus is just not Covid19 it also can be flu and just a cold (SARS),(MERS) etc, etc

    Influenza is not a coronavirus. Where ate you going with all this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,098 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Depending when the tests were done, some of the patients are likely well on the way to recovery but being reported as new cases

    I think you are looking for comfort in the confirmed cases total.

    The actual cases out there will be multiples of this so not really comforting when you look at the reality that the confirmed cases are limited by our lack of testing.

    I would rather see the reality than feeling comfort from focusing on an inaccurate/irrelevant number.


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