CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

JPCN1 · 02-04-2020 07:31PM

eagle eye wrote: »

We are the 124th most populous country in the world. We are 22nd in number of coronavirus cases.

We are testing more per head of population than most, therefore showing more cases I presume.

Tippex · 02-04-2020 07:32PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Where are you reading that? Also nobody has called it the Inter Cert since the 70s so there goes any credibility you had as an education spokesperson.

that's wrong it was still the Inter cert when I done it in 89 it became the junior cert that year with the first exam in 92.

Ha Long Bay · 02-04-2020 07:32PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

They are doing a good job. Think of all the failed states, tinpot dictatorships and general ****holes that constitute "other countries". Like fcuk are they reporting accurately.

India is only reporting 2,341 confirmed cases which is almost 1500 less than Ireland. I'd say they have a few more than that at this stage.

magma69 · 02-04-2020 07:35PM

eagle eye wrote: »

We are the 124th most populous country in the world. We are 22nd in number of coronavirus cases.

It's the nuance of your post that makes it great.

02-04-2020 07:35PM

DenMan wrote: »

George Lee's last couple of sentences mentioned that some PPE that arrived from China was not what was expected ..
Sounds like a way of not reporting on defective medical equipment that we like other European countries got from China.

Yep, as I predicted.

cameramonkey · 02-04-2020 07:35PM

jackboy wrote: »

Well that note is not going to help. Admitting they don’t know the virus origin.

No one knows that source of the virus admitting that is not a state secret.

otnomart · 02-04-2020 07:36PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Saw on BBC the other day France were to start adding figures for nursing home deaths.

The data on Ehpad nurning homes in France has just been published, and unfortunately it is quite high

https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/coronavirus-salomon-annonce-au-moins-884-morts-dans-les-ehpad-1887357.html

02-04-2020 07:39PM

magma69 wrote: »

It's the nuance of your post that makes it great.

You win the internet today!

cameramonkey · 02-04-2020 07:39PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Do you mean that?

That is his normal mode.

cameramonkey · 02-04-2020 07:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep, as I predicted.

What did you predict?

stephenjmcd · 02-04-2020 07:40PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yep, as I predicted.

Again from rte
"On personal protective equipment, Mr Varadkar says that the PPE being brought into the country is up to standard, and if there are problems they want to hear about it. He says it consistently checked for quality"

I watched Leo's press conference and they said yes there is a different look and feel to the ppe than some healthcare staff might be used to but it is being quality checked.

boardise · 02-04-2020 07:40PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Gordon Elliott and the effects on horse racing on rte news.. My heart bleeds.. I thought the scenes from Italy and Spain were sad.

As a follower of Irish racing all my life I'm dismayed to see a gratuitously dismissive remark like this. Any sport can seem trivial when set against the current scene of crisis . That's no reason to dismiss the worries people in the
sector have about their jobs and livelihoods.
Apart from employing tens of thousands in direct and spin-off activities , Irish racing brings in considerable income to the country for sales/breeding exports .
Ireland sits at the top table for every facet of equine sport and earns great reputational kudos among the international community therefrom. Rather than belittle racing's contribution to the national story we should be justly proud of it.

Kermit.de.frog · 02-04-2020 07:40PM

boardz wrote: »

On average I prefer the median

You win the thread for today.

blackcard · 02-04-2020 07:41PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

Just announced on RTE 1 news that De Taoish reckons state exams are still going to happen.

I am glad my teenager is in TY year - the current situation of all of us cooped up together for 24 hrs with two of us trying to work from home, is not a great environment to be trying to study in. Also they have missed several weeks of school teaching already and are under a kind of stress that no other exam candidates have had to endure in the history of the state.

How fair is it to put them through an exam in or around an environment of death, job loss, and home confinement? It will be even more cruel to keep the party line going that the exams are continuing only to call them off at the last minute, as I still suspect will happen.

As I said, I am glad it's not a state exam year for my family.

It is a tough one. How do you decide who goes to third level colleges in the next school year? You can't ask everyone to repeat a year. I don't think that there will be a problem in allowing first, second and third year third level students to progress to the following year. But I think that if it is possible at all, exams will be held for the leaving certificate and final year at third level even if they are deferred until August. The only other option would be for teachers and lecturers to grade students which would open up a can of worms

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 07:41PM

Some thoughts on the Austrian mask plan.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-austrian-supermarket-mask-rule-divides-experts-1.4219300

stephenjmcd · 02-04-2020 07:43PM

I dont see any mention online anywhere that swabs were sent to Germany and was never mentioned by the CMO. It's not even in RTEs live updates.

If they were sending swabs surely they would say it when asked about capacity and not leave it to Geroge lee to mention on air ?

davedanon · 02-04-2020 07:43PM

magma69 wrote: »

It's the nuance of your post that makes it great.

"But they some people seem to think our government are doing a great job"

He knows his audience.

r93kaey5p2izun · 02-04-2020 07:43PM

I personally think our death figures are a concern already. There are several other countries doing a lot better. Yes, there are others far worse too, but why are we not at the better end of things? What has gone wrong for us in that regard? And if we are testing more than most other countries, as claimed, then our death rate is likely to be more accurate (not fully accurate obviously) and their deaths rates even lower if they're missing proportionally more cases. Norway, Czechia, Australia, Poland for example. Their death rates are a lot lower than ours.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 07:44PM

blackcard wrote: »

It is a tough one. How do you decide who goes to third level colleges in the next school year? You can't ask everyone to repeat a year. I don't think that there will be a problem in allowing first, second and third year third level students to progress to the following year. But I think that if it is possible at all, exams will be held for the leaving certificate and final year at third level even if they are deferred until August. The only other option would be for teachers and lecturers to grade students which would open up a can of worms

I think the LC is the crunch one as it fits into everything else, not just college plus as you say, students having to put their lives on hold for a whole year.

speckle · 02-04-2020 07:45PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

BCG? Is that a vaccine we got when small?

http://www.bcgatlas.org/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2020/03/31/a-vaccine-from-the-1920s-could-help-fight-the-coronavirus-pandemic/

https://www.mpg.de/14610776/immune-boost-corona-virus

think Ireland has had problems sourcing the bcg since 2015

thinks wibbs mentioned this earlier like him I have an innate immunity. could we give plasma. would that help. dont know but willingly.

expectationlost · 02-04-2020 07:45PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I dont see any mention online anywhere that swabs were sent to Germany and was never mentioned by the CMO. It's not even in RTEs live updates.

If they were sending swabs surely they would say it when asked about capacity and not leave it to Geroge lee to mention on air ?

Paul Reid mentioned it this morning at about 5 minutes https://ift.tt/2JxeJQ7 .mp3

UrbanFret · 02-04-2020 07:46PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Gordon Elliott and the effects on horse racing on rte news.. My heart bleeds.. I thought the scenes from Italy and Spain were sad.

We get it you're not a horse racing fan. Time to let go.

Funsterdelux · 02-04-2020 07:46PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Some thoughts on the Austrian mask plan.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-austrian-supermarket-mask-rule-divides-experts-1.4219300

blackcard · 02-04-2020 07:48PM

Multipass wrote: »

My son is in leaving cert and is working his butt off. I hope the exams go ahead, I really do. I can’t see what will happen with college admissions if they don’t. I don’t see why they can’t use primary schools as extra exam centres, space them out more, don’t allow congregation afterwards. I would certainly volunteer to invigilate.

I agree that they should go ahead. There are a lot of conference centres and function rooms in hotels available also

Kermit.de.frog · 02-04-2020 07:49PM

Plenty of willing victims being prepared across America it seems.

BanditLuke · 02-04-2020 07:52PM

boardise wrote: »

As a follower of Irish racing all my life I'm dismayed to see a gratuitously dismissive remark like this. Any sport can seem trivial when set against the current scene of crisis . That's no reason to dismiss the worries people in the
sector have about their jobs and livelihoods.
Apart from employing tens of thousands in direct and spin-off activities , Irish racing brings in considerable income to the country for sales/breeding exports .
Ireland sits at the top table for every facet of equine sport and earns great reputational kudos among the international community therefrom. Rather than belittle racing's contribution to the national story we should be justly proud of it.

Personally I hope the horse racing "industry" is decimated by this.

Bob24 · 02-04-2020 07:54PM

otnomart wrote: »

The data on Ehpad nurning homes in France has just been published, and unfortunately it is quite high

https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/coronavirus-salomon-annonce-au-moins-884-morts-dans-les-ehpad-1887357.html

And it is important to note that as per the article those deaths haven’t been included in the official figures published by French authorities.

I.e. they can be added to the total death count for France meaning French actual figures have been roughly 20% higher than originally reported :-(

stephenjmcd · 02-04-2020 07:55PM

expectationlost wrote: »

Paul Reid mentioned it this morning at about 5 minutes https://ift.tt/2JxeJQ7 .mp3

Thanks, I was looking for it from the press conference, didn't realise it was said this morning. Thanks for that

Hurrache · 02-04-2020 07:55PM

boardise wrote: »

As a follower of Irish racing all my life I'm dismayed to see a gratuitously dismissive remark like this. Any sport can seem trivial when set against the current scene of crisis . That's no reason to dismiss the worries people in the
sector have about their jobs and livelihoods.
Apart from employing tens of thousands in direct and spin-off activities , Irish racing brings in considerable income to the country for sales/breeding exports .
Ireland sits at the top table for every facet of equine sport and earns great reputational kudos among the international community therefrom. Rather than belittle racing's contribution to the national story we should be justly proud of it.

It's gets huge amounts of tax payers money, it can do without it for another few years.

Cody montana · 02-04-2020 07:56PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Plenty of willing victims being prepared across America it seems.

And when they get sick who will they blame?

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP