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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #5762
    [Deleted User]
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Who cares, fcuk them. Like the Cheltenham crowd they should be last on any list for treatment or ventilators etc...

    Don't worry, BanditLuke will be at the door of hospitals deeming who is worthy of treatment and who are the untouchables


  • #5763
    shocksy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Heckler wrote: »
    Maybe because she is elderly her insurance is different. I don't think any travel insurance will cover you for US medical care beyond a certain cost. By all means point me to the source of your info. Not being smart, I pay VHI and would love to know.

    I'm on my phone so I've attached screenshots from a policy I just checked on InsureAndGo. The policy shown is for worldwide including the USA or Canada.


  • #5764
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    I was speaking with a (senior) consultant last week (in one of the major Dublin hospitals) and he told me he saw stuff happening in the previous 7 days that they have been try to do (...without getting anywhere...) for the last 20 years!




    thats pretty vague?


    more ICU beads by any chance? But sure thats a balancing act


    the main problem with the hospitals is step down beds and people turning up there that don't have an alternative, sometimes simply theres nowhere else out of hours to go


    The dream of healthcare in the community is still a distant one and thats the solution


    They wont let you leave the place, personal experience, thy kept me there 2 extra days for no reason, thats a bed wasted for those days


  • #5765
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Patients patients!!

    It's the morning I'd no sleep
    My son special needs didn't sleep so I stayed up with him let the wife sleep.
    So excuse my spelling , it's the least of my worries


  • #5766
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,773 ✭✭✭893bet


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Back to Covid-19!

    I don't see any update from China today (on worldometer)? Unusual as there are always figures for China first thing in the morning.

    Their random low number generator must be broken.


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  • #5767
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    bilston wrote: »
    Yeah but a lot of people thought both world wars would be over by Christmas.

    The effects of Covid 19 could well be felt for years, even after we've returned to "normality"

    Thank fook it's not a WW. Imagine the effects on Generation Pansy, who can't sit in and watch Netflix for a week without screeching about the effects on their "mental health". What would they be like if food was rationed, there was no electricity and bombs were falling.


  • #5768
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭Heckler


    shocksy wrote: »
    I'm on my phone so I've attached screenshots from a policy I just checked on InsureAndGo. The policy shown is for worldwide including the USA or Canada.

    Thanks Shocksy. I'll ask her about it in the morning. Appreciate the info. May have things confused myself.


  • #5769
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,088 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Thank fook it's not a WW. Imagine the effects on Generation Pansy, who can't sit in and watch Netflix for a week without screeching about the effects on their "mental health". What would they be like if food was rationed, there was no electricity and bombs were falling.

    Would it be as bad as the people/alco's who got outraged over the pubs closing?

    Generation Lout would you call it?


  • #5770
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,773 ✭✭✭893bet


    cnocbui wrote: »
    India has the potential to make the US look like a rounding error.

    India and African numbers will not get reported though.


  • #5771
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    marilynrr wrote: »
    I've seen it compared to wars before, with a difference being that with this pandemic it is far worse because of the isolation, people isolated from their partners/family/loved ones and can't even have the comfort of a hug from a loved one.

    I'm reading about the siege of Leningrad at the moment. I'd rather not be able to hug someone than have to watch them die of starvation in front of me, or in some cases, have to eat them.


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  • #5772
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Yeh the whole system of testing is broken unfortunately. Bit of a joke at this stage. Waiting 8-10 days for a test and results makes the whole process almost worthless. Its odd that Ryan Tubridy, Ciara Kelly and Claire Byrne can get results but frontline nurses can't.

    Not really that odd, the newspapers etc. will report about Ryan/Ciara/Claire getting their test and results quickly and Joe/Josephine Soap read about it and think everything is running great. They generally don't hear about Fiona the nurse waiting three weeks.


  • #5773
    Keyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    easypazz wrote: »
    What is sad is using his death to have a cheap dig at Leo and others.

    I really need to stop looking at twitter, its the playground of the fúcking idiot.


  • #5774
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭Heckler


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Thank fook it's not a WW. Imagine the effects on Generation Pansy, who can't sit in and watch Netflix for a week without screeching about the effects on their "mental health". What would they be like if food was rationed, there was no electricity and bombs were falling.

    My sister is interested in geneolgy. She found out that my grandfather signed up at aged 13 (lied obviously about his age, cannon fodder) and fought at the Somme at 15 in the British Army. Mustard gased and made it home alive.
    Don't think he had Netflix.


  • #5775
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    Looks like we are going to pass the one million mark tomorrow


  • #5776
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Though this was an excellent point on RTE live blog this morning
    The head of the Department of Public Health and Epidemiology at the Royal College of Surgeons has said increased and earlier contact tracing of people who develop early symptoms of Covid-19 could work more effectively than waiting for tests to confirm the presence of Covid-19.

    Professor Ruairi Brugha said "we don't need to lose anything in the effectiveness of response" by moving from relying on tests to relying on "presumptive diagnoses" from GPs.

    Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, he said that instead of having delays of up to ten days, "we can move in when people have symptoms and start contact tracing at that point".

    Instead of relying on tests - just presume everyone with symptoms has it. If later confirmed negative what harm, at least contacts etc are being isolated and monitored in the interim on the chance that its positive


  • #5777
    Shelly66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Shelly66


    Relative is heart ward in Dublin hospital. Tested negative when brought in with ongoing pneumonia. Tested before being brought to ward 21/2 weeks ago.

    Someone on ward has tested positive, All patients now being tested. God help them . So important we keep testing the staff as much as possible

    Relative has been in and out since December with lung and heart issues. Now possibly will have contacted covid in hospital setting. We hope for a good outcome but fear worst


  • #5778
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Would it be as bad as the people/alco's who got outraged over the pubs closing?

    Generation Lout would you call it?

    Haven't seen anyone outraged with the pubs closing. Did this happen in your imagination??


  • #5779
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,938 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    the.red.baron wrote: »
    Looks like we are going to pass the one million mark tomorrow

    Should pass it today. There were almost 77K new cases worldwide yesterday. Should also pass 50K deaths also today.


  • #5780
    [Deleted User]
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    Ah no, Shelly :(


  • #5781
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Heckler wrote: »
    My sister is interested in geneolgy. She found out that my grandfather signed up at aged 13 (lied obviously about his age, cannon fodder) and fought at the Somme at 15 in the British Army. Mustard gased and made it home alive.
    Don't think he had Netflix.

    I mean there were massive mental health issues when people got back from WWI. People an find examples of those who made it through ok but many more did not.

    Let's not pretend that our grandfather's could somehow stiff upper lip their way out of every mental health issue. This nonsense of previous generations being mentally tougher is just like a country not testing for Corona virus. No one looked so no one found anything while people and their loved ones suffered.


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  • #5782
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Should pass it today. There were almost 77K new cases worldwide yesterday. Should also pass 50K deaths also today.

    So 1 in 8000 has it, and 1% of those die?


  • #5783
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I mean there were massive mental health issues when people got back from WWI. People an find examples of those who made it through ok but many more did not.

    Let's not pretend that our grandfather's could somehow stiff upper lip their way out of every mental health issue. This nonsense of previous generations being mentally tougher is just like a country not testing for Corona virus. No one looked so no one found anything while people and their loved ones suffered.

    Lets not pretend that we don't have a generation of self obsessed twats and instagram "models" who couldn't make ****ing toast if their life depended on it.

    Not saying there was no mental issues. The issue is the teen 20's are having mental issues now. ****ing twats..


  • #5784
    the.red.baron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    Heckler wrote: »
    Lets not pretend that we don't have a generation of self obsessed twats and instagram "models" who couldn't make ****ing toast if their life depended on it.

    Not saying there was no mental issues. The issue is the teen 20's are having mental issues now. ****ing twats..




    WW1 invented PSTD, the original snowflakes


  • #5785
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Christy42 wrote: »
    I mean there were massive mental health issues when people got back from WWI. People an find examples of those who made it through ok but many more did not.

    Let's not pretend that our grandfather's could somehow stiff upper lip their way out of every mental health issue. This nonsense of previous generations being mentally tougher is just like a country not testing for Corona virus. No one looked so no one found anything while people and their loved ones suffered.

    To be fair though, they would most likely have witnessed someone being blown to bits in front of them or some such so that might entitle them to a bit of a lip wobble.


  • #5786
    uli84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭uli84


    Sorry if it was discussed already..in Sweden life remained pretty much normal with small exceptions but schools, creches are open, people are working etc. yet their numbers are not really much higher than anywhere else (?)


  • #5787
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    A 6 week old baby died in America. A 13 year old died in the UK, a 16 year old died in France. A 42 year old died in Ireland (going by what another poster said here yesterday).

    I think there will be deaths of all ages and not just the old.


  • #5788
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    uli84 wrote: »
    Sorry if it was discussed already..in Sweden life remained pretty much normal with small exceptions but schools, creches are open, people are working etc. yet their numbers are not really much higher than anywhere else (?)

    like in Spain, cases rocketting again, despite being on lockdown for almost 3 weeks.
    its gonna spread anyway, just get it over with, now all they're doing is destroying the economy and peoples mental health.


  • #5789
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    A 6 week old baby died in America. A 13 year old died in the UK, a 16 year old died in France. A 42 year old died in Ireland (going by what another poster said here yesterday).

    I think there will be deaths of all ages and not just the old.

    they tend to announce these deaths without an autopsy having been done. you can die with something , not because of it

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5790
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    A 6 week old baby died in America. A 13 year old died in the UK, a 16 year old died in France. A 42 year old died in Ireland (going by what another poster said here yesterday).

    I think there will be deaths of all ages and not just the old.

    There will be but they will be extreme outliers, the media love these stories as they generate clicks,fear and panic.


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  • #5791
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    There will be but they will be extreme outliers, the media love these stories as they generate clicks,fear and panic.

    Create fear and panic. If it gets idiots to take things seriously, I'm all for it.


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