CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

fritzelly · 02-04-2020 01:53AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Why is this reagent so important anyway, what does it do?

It's like reanimator

cnocbui · 02-04-2020 01:53AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

america is a **** storm that is going to get worse and worse , most European countries were much better prepared , they will be the worst hit country when this is done

India has the potential to make the US look like a rounding error.

fritzelly · 02-04-2020 01:56AM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

anyone still up, Contagion is starting on ITV2 +1 in 5 minutes...

Again - tv channels getting their wear out of that film or is it a PSA by the government

KungPao · 02-04-2020 01:57AM

MadYaker wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1245493607643131909

Ele é um palhaço, Bill.

Strumms · 02-04-2020 01:58AM

MadYaker wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1245493607643131909

Bolsonaro, He is actually a fücking headcase. I know quite a few Brazilians here and they would be quite center in their politics but they were absolutely bricking it that Bolsonaro would get in. ‘Crazy’ was the term frequently used to describe him.... doesn’t seem too far from fact now.

ceadaoin. · 02-04-2020 02:00AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

america is a **** storm that is going to get worse and worse , most European countries were much better prepared , they will be the worst hit country when this is done

Maybe in terms of numbers just because of their large population, but many states are very prepared and have had measures in place longer than Ireland has.

02-04-2020 02:03AM

Strumms wrote: »

Bolsonaro, He is actually a fücking headcase. I know quite a few Brazilians here and they would be quite center in their politics but they were absolutely bricking it that Bolsonaro would get in. ‘Crazy’ was the term frequently used to describe him.... doesn’t seem too far from fact now.

Maybe as crazy as this loon who advises his people to take saunas and drink vodka to stave off the covid19

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/52084121

cnocbui · 02-04-2020 02:04AM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

this time tomorrow we'll be through 1,000,000 confirmed cases, 50,000 deaths

Total: 935,189 (+76,834) deaths: 47,192 (+4,883)

Those might actually be close to China's real figures. Now the US intelligence community seems to be echoing what the UK government 'scientists' have advised in terms of under reporting by China: https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/intentionally-incomplete-us-intelligence-says-china-concealed-extent-of-outbreak-20200402-p54gbm.html

dwayneshintzy · 02-04-2020 02:05AM

nacho libre wrote: »

In Australia those who come back into the country must self-isolate in a hotel for 14 days. We should have that here when restrictions ease, so we don't have the same problem Hong Kong had when they lifted restrictions on travel.

Hong Kong never lifted restrictions on travel. The rise in cases is largely attributed to people returning to HK from elsewhere, yes, but that was because those countries (Europe, USA, etc) became hotspots and people started returning to HK (permanent residents, students, etc). More intensive travel restrictions were only brought in after the rise in cases brought on by this.

HK had done very well keeping cases low for sure, but that was more through distancing measures, closure of schools, almost 100% wearing of masks, etc

windy shepard henderson · 02-04-2020 02:07AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Maybe in terms of numbers just because of their large population, but many states are very prepared and have had measures in place longer than Ireland has.

there are large urban areas that will have catastrophic consequences from this ,

bare in mind the worst hit city (bergamo) in italy has a population of 500 000 half the population of dublin , it didnt reach Rome because they shut the country down , the numbers in the vast majority of italy are low compared to the north of the country

whats happening in new york and one or two other cities could make bergamo look small in comparison

MadYaker · 02-04-2020 02:09AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

there are large urban areas that will have catastrophic consequences from this ,

bare in mind the worst hit city (bergamo) in italy has a population of 500 000 half the population of dublin , it didnt reach Rome because they shut the country down , the numbers in the vast majority of italy are low compared to the north of the country

whats happening in new york and one or two other cities could make bergamo look small in comparison

1000 deaths today already, probably 2000 tomorrow

gabeeg · 02-04-2020 02:12AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Maybe in terms of numbers just because of their large population, but many states are very prepared and have had measures in place longer than Ireland has.

Name some

Tell me how · 02-04-2020 02:22AM

gabeeg wrote: »

Name some

Ohio governor Mike DeWine started shutting down before the state even had it's first confirmed case.

I'm in Massachussets and the governor announced an emergency on the 10th March instructions for social distancing and working from home were issued on that day.

ceadaoin. · 02-04-2020 02:31AM

gabeeg wrote: »

Name some

California for one.

Nevada, where I live, has had schools closed since march 15th and all non essential businesses closed since paddy's day. Hotels and casinos on the vegas strip were shut before that anyway. My husband has been working from home for about 5 weeks now. Several states declared states of emergency weeks ago, some activated the national guard (nevada just did that today). Its ridiculous to say that all of america is unprepared.

You can look it up, most of the US is shut down at this stage and has been for weeks. Trump doesn't have that much power. I think for the most part we will be ok but dont let that get in the way of your trump revenge fantasy.

Heckler · 02-04-2020 02:33AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Ohio governor Mike DeWine started shutting down before the state even had it's first confirmed case.

I'm in Massachussets and the governor announced an emergency on the 10th March instructions for social distancing and working from home were issued on that day.

True. Have a sister in Watertown, Boston. Shes being working from home since then.

davedanon · 02-04-2020 02:37AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Ohio governor Mike DeWine started shutting down before the state even had it's first confirmed case.

I'm in Massachussets and the governor announced an emergency on the 10th March instructions for social distancing and working from home were issued on that day.

Ok...no dates supplied with the first instance, and with the second, the 10th was just 2 days before Leo Varadkar's announcement in Washington. And 2 states, out of 52, is a definition of 'many' I'm unfamiliar with.

ceadaoin. · 02-04-2020 02:42AM

davedanon wrote: »

Ok...no dates supplied with the first instance, and with the second, the 10th was just 2 days before Leo Varadkar's announcement in Washington. And 2 states, out of 52, is a definition of 'many' I'm unfamiliar with.

Look it up. The majority of american states are under stay at home or shelter in place directives.

Tell me how · 02-04-2020 02:46AM

davedanon wrote: »

Ok...no dates supplied with the first instance, and with the second, the 10th was just 2 days before Leo Varadkar's announcement in Washington. And 2 states, out of 52, is a definition of 'many' I'm unfamiliar with.

Maybe instead of focusing on the definition of many you might consider the definition of 'some' also. Which is what you asked for.

davedanon · 02-04-2020 02:52AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Maybe instead of focusing on the definition of many you might consider the definition of 'some' also. Which is what you asked for.

No, I didn't.

tuxy · 02-04-2020 03:01AM

Wait a second, 52 states? Did the virus add 2 new states?

Larbre34 · 02-04-2020 03:08AM

tuxy wrote: »

Wait a second, 52 states? Did the virus add 2 new states?

Puerto Rico and American Samoa. Not States per se but close enough.

Sausage_blaa · 02-04-2020 03:12AM

Xertz wrote: »

What I don't understand is why anyone would think the HSE or the DoH would have an agenda to engage in some kind of cover up of this. It quite literally makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.

They are in 'all hands on deck' and 'pull out all the stops' mode and are genuinely working flat out across all sorts of areas.

Just to give you an example, a relative of mine is having on-going cancer treatment and their team had to find new venues for infusions, which involved nurses / local management going in and working with contractors and getting a facilities up and running. They were getting equipment moved, installed, rooms cleaned, painted, getting electrical systems updated - you name it, they're doing it. There are nurses, managers, administrators, cleaners, everyone working flat out behind the scenes across the whole system in a way that is genuinely unprecedented.

The press conferences are trying to get out as much information as they can and it has largely been very accurate and they are being as open and forthcoming as they can. You have to realise they're not used to dealing with public presentation of medical stats. They're used to issuing stats to academics and medics and those are often technical, dense reports that would need to be read by someone who's familiar with reading them.

Perhaps they could get some staff in from say the CSO or academia to help out with publishing stats and info. It not something the HSE is actually used to doing and perhaps the presentation isn't quite media-friendly or is assuming a degree of expertise that doesn't exist, but I honestly think this constant accusation of some kind of coverup or agenda is beyond nonsense.

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No the HSE are very trustworthy! They never lied about all the women they could have saved if they gave the right results from smear tests or certainly never tried to cover it up! Naw! Give yourself a shake!

fritzelly · 02-04-2020 03:14AM

tuxy wrote: »

Wait a second, 52 states? Did the virus add 2 new states?

Maybe I'm drunk but I found that funnier than I should have

tuxy · 02-04-2020 03:15AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Puerto Rico and American Samoa. Not States per se but close enough.

What about Guam and all the other U.S. territories?

maninasia · 02-04-2020 03:24AM

davedanon wrote: »

Err, you do know that even Trump, who claimed that it was one person from China and then 15 but soon to be none....is now saying that TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND deaths would represent "a great job"?

Not getting into Trump this and that but..

A very reasonable estimate with no mitigation was 2 to 3 million deaths in the US.
So compared to that 100,000 looks reasonable.

Talisman · 02-04-2020 03:27AM

s1ippy wrote: »

A friend of mine works in Pfizer and he texted me in late February about the shortage of reagent.

Thanks that really brightened my day.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sure he did.

c montgomery wrote: »

What reagent are they short of?

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Really? A real ****ing shame he or you didn`t let the HSE or the Government know about it wasn`t it? :rolleyes:

Now

wait

for

it

...

john4321 wrote: »

Got a similar message from a mate.

s1ippy · 02-04-2020 03:38AM

I'm laughing but only because he literally did text me in February. When they were speaking about it at the press conference last week I was wondering how this was current news as I'd known about it for weeks and who the fnck am I?

fritzelly · 02-04-2020 03:41AM

s1ippy wrote: »

I'm laughing but only because he literally did text me in February. When they were speaking about it at the press conference last week I was wondering how this was current news as I'd known about it for weeks and who the fnck am I?

I believe you bro

tuxy · 02-04-2020 03:49AM

s1ippy wrote: »

I'm laughing but only because he literally did text me in February. When they were speaking about it at the press conference last week I was wondering how this was current news as I'd known about it for weeks and who the fnck am I?

So are you saying they ran out of it in Feb when countries like China and S Korea had depleted their stockpiles and were ording more.
And now the same thing has happened in other countries.
It's current news now in Ireland and elsewhere because we have just depleted our stockpiles and companies like pfizer have not managed to magic it out of thin air in the meantime.

s1ippy · 02-04-2020 03:59AM

tuxy wrote: »

So are you saying they ran out of it in Feb when countries like China and S Korea had depleted their stockpiles and were ording more.
And now the same thing has happened in other countries.
It's current news now in Ireland and elsewhere because we have just depleted our stockpiles and companies like pfizer have not managed to magic it out of thin air in the meantime.

We were marvelling continously that HSE were claiming that they were going to be testing tens of thousands in so few weeks. Taking swabs, maybe, but the swab stocks were on the verge of being depleted Wed last as it happens, hence testing was curtailed so they've only just managed to even start taking swabs again as of Sunday.

Testing is quite meaningless in its current guise and while the death level is still relatively low here, these consistent low positive numbers serve to only breed complacency among those not coping with lockdown.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP