CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Martina1991 · 01-04-2020 09:17PM

Wombatman wrote: »

If we can only complete 1500 cases a day, with currently about 15% testing positive, we can only confirm 225 cases max per day, 15% of 1500.

Today 212 very close to 225.

Say we do test 1,500 a day (currently).
Those 1,500 aren't a random selection from the population. Those are people highly suspected as having Covid19.
They may have multiple symptoms, high risk patients, contacts with confirmed cases, have underlying conditions etc.

We've increased the number of positive cases per test from 6% to 15%. This is a good thing. It shows that the narrower criteria is working, its finding more cases.

We're actively looking for cases from this group of "1,500".
And yet we're finding ~200-300 cases. That is a good thing.

We're going fishing in a pool where you'd expect to find the most fish, and you're not finding as many as you thought.

This indicates the restrictive measures are working; the social distancing, the school closures, the handwashing, all of it.

We have a long way to go but we're keeping our heads above water.

Loafing Oaf · 01-04-2020 09:19PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

They're hungry and scared?

Are they getting any kind of payment from the government for food?

“They are no longer singing or dancing on the balconies,” said Salvatore Melluso, a priest at Caritas Diocesana di Napoli, a church-run charity in Naples. “Now people are more afraid – not so much of the virus, but of poverty. Many are out of work and hungry. There are now long queues at food banks.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/01/singing-stops-italy-fear-social-unrest-mount-coronavirus-lockdown

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 09:19PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Can you clarify what you keep referring to about tests "being done". Do you mean people being swabbed or tests actually performed? Because they are two different things and lots of people use the term "testing" for both.

Coyote has posted numbers from RTE today. ~5,000 tests are being carried out a day in labs across the country. Even if certain centres are running low on swabs, it will give the labs a chance to catch up with the backlog until more swabs arrive.

Completely wrong, we never got close to testing 5000 per day

Martina1991 wrote: »

There wasn't near the amount of tests requested to be processed when we began. Testing has ramped up to try and meet demand. Getting the average number of tests done per day is useless. It makes it seem like we're testing f*ck all.
If the number of tests done as of the 23rd March was ~18,000 and now it is at ~33,000 that implies we have processed ~15,000 tests in the last week, averaging 2,143 a day.

Again totally wrong numbers, we never hit 2000 according to the HSE

Martina1991 wrote: »

The number of tests to date (~33,000) is the number of people that have had a swab taken, lab processed and results released.

Wrong again, we tested a lot less than 33,000.

Martina1991 wrote: »

We are carrying out more thasn 2,000 tests a day, and that number is increasing.
We will never know the true number of infected people because many are asymptomatic and will never seek to be tested. That isn't a limitation of the testing process.

Wrong again.

Time and time again you post incorrect numbers that you seem to make up. They are found nowhere on HSE press releases.
You are supposed to be involved science , you should know that you should be factual and have source material. You have been very insulting when faced with facts and now you are accusing me of deleting posts .
Do you work for the HSE or something?

BanditLuke · 01-04-2020 09:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Remember Elliot Carver from that Bond movie: "There's no news like bad news."

If it bleeds, it leads.

harr · 01-04-2020 09:22PM

Question, have a friend who rang me today he is a single stay at home dad , wife not around anymore ( different country) he lives near his parents who are Both over 70 other than that he has no family near to him or very close friends .. over the last few days he has got a bad cold no temperature but is feeling fairly rotten . He is now terrified he might getting/has the virus as he has no one to look after the kids and can’t really be self isolating. GP is ringing him again tomorrow to see if he needs to be tested.
Who would be best to contact if he needs outside help with the children his next of kin are both over 70 .. a very worried man tonight.

eddie73 · 01-04-2020 09:23PM

Unfortunately, information technology has both benefitted us and hindered us in dealing with the pandemic. In the past, many people died, at home and in hospital, and there wasn't a daily body count listed on a mobile device or computer. People could forget about things that are now a click of a mouse away.

Lavinia · 01-04-2020 09:25PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I wouldn't. They have a much higher mortality rate per million than Ireland and their trajectory is frightening by comparison to other Nordic countries.

Not at all, taking they started their journey a full month before Ireland did

ShineOn7 · 01-04-2020 09:25PM

ITman88 wrote: »

A ban????

We are in a police state now!

The UK may be getting there but we are far from a Police State

The Gardai are far too easy going for anything close to a Police State

New Home · 01-04-2020 09:26PM

eddie73 wrote: »

Unfortunately, information technology has both benefitted us and hindered us in dealing with the pandemic. In the past, many people died, at home and in hospital, and there wasn't a daily body count listed on a mobile device or computer. People could forget about things that are now a click of a mouse away.

So ignorance is bliss?

Looney1 · 01-04-2020 09:26PM

By the way did anyone postpone health insurance premiums???

splinter65 · 01-04-2020 09:26PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Sky News are reveling in this

It's sick

Sky News are trying to see just how much plague the viewers need in order to be satisfied, sated but not bloated by it. It’s difficult for them, an entity with no standards or ethics, to judge public feeling, which is what it’s all about now, nothing to do with reporting the news.

Funsterdelux · 01-04-2020 09:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Remember Elliot Carver from that Bond movie: "There's no news like bad news."

I always wanted Malcolm McDowell to play a Bond villian, but I had to make do with Star Trek.

Martina1991 · 01-04-2020 09:27PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

I certainly did not delete any post, again you are mistaken. You seem to repeat untruth after untruth about testing numbers and when you are faced with the facts that we are way below what you are claiming then you accuse me of deleting posts. .You made a claim about RTE saying that there were 5000 tests a day. I will try find those post for you.

Hmm ok, i just couldn't link to it here on my PC. My mistake.

I'm looking through my own posts now. I did say:
"Coyote has posted numbers from RTE today. ~5,000 tests are being carried out a day in labs across the country."

I quoted a post by Coyote.

I absolutely do not post untruth. I try to post valid information from a laboratory testing perspective. What background do you have to criticise a national service during a pandemic?

Mtmt · 01-04-2020 09:28PM

His local family support services?

syngindub · 01-04-2020 09:29PM

whats up with people wearing masks while driving. Is it a waste of usage of a mask in a car with the windows up??

ricero · 01-04-2020 09:29PM

The whole testing in this country seems to be a complete shambles. Heating stories of people waiting over 8 days for their results back.

Seems like the chickens are coming home to roost about how many predicted the HSE wouldnt be able to cope with such a crisis. Thank god for the heros in the hospitals and other front line staffers but i fear the next fortnight is gonna be grim reading.

JP Liz V1 · 01-04-2020 09:30PM

harr wrote: »

Question, have a friend who rang me today he is a single stay at home dad , wife not around anymore ( different country) he lives near his parents who are Both over 70 other than that he has no family near to him or very close friends .. over the last few days he has got a bad cold no temperature but is feeling fairly rotten . He is now terrified he might getting/has the virus as he has no one to look after the kids and can’t really be self isolating. GP is ringing him again tomorrow to see if he needs to be tested.
Who would be best to contact if he needs outside help with the children his next of kin are both over 70 .. a very worried man tonight.

Could you as his friend take the kids (if they are not infected) or another friend? Tough situation if he is a positive carrier

fritzelly · 01-04-2020 09:30PM

harr wrote: »

Question, have a friend who rang me today he is a single stay at home dad , wife not around anymore ( different country) he lives near his parents who are Both over 70 other than that he has no family near to him or very close friends .. over the last few days he has got a bad cold no temperature but is feeling fairly rotten . He is now terrified he might getting/has the virus as he has no one to look after the kids and can’t really be self isolating. GP is ringing him again tomorrow to see if he needs to be tested.
Who would be best to contact if he needs outside help with the children his next of kin are both over 70 .. a very worried man tonight.

How would we know? Do you mean county?

Assetbacked · 01-04-2020 09:31PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Hmm ok, i just couldn't link to it here on my PC. My mistake.

I'm looking through my own posts now. I did say:
"Coyote has posted numbers from RTE today. ~5,000 tests are being carried out a day in labs across the country."

I quoted a post by Coyote.

I absolutely do not post untruth. I try to post valid information from a laboratory testing perspective. What background do you have to criticise a national service during a pandemic?

Only 1500 people are being tested per day, according to RTÉ today. https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0401/1127767-coronavirus-ireland-testing/

irishproduce · 01-04-2020 09:31PM

Arghus wrote: »

I have to laugh at the naivete of people who say how can they impose stricter restrictions, as if this is as restricted as it gets.

This is restrictive, unbelievably so. But it's nowhere near what it could be. You could be in for a shock in a week or two. I hope not, but who knows.

There's plenty of people still out walking everywhere, there isn't really that visable of a presence of cops, you can go as often and as far as you like to the shops and plenty of factories and workplaces that aren't really essential have massaged that interpretation of the rules to stay open.

Harsher would mean only bare bones essential services staying open - chemists, foodstores, perhaps some banks. All restaurants closing, even for takeaway, remaining places of work except for those in the medical industry being closed. No more 2km walks. Maybe even no more walks outside full stop. And limitations on numbers of visits to foodshop, with only one person per household allowed. And cops and the army really up in your face asking you all about your business. That's a full lock down.

Takeaways will not close no matter what.
If they did, a lot of neglected children would go hungry. €5 from a drunk or high mother isn't much use in Lidl for an 8 year old child.

Cork Boy 53 · 01-04-2020 09:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Remember Elliot Carver from that Bond movie: "There's no news like bad news."

Truth be told the Elliott Carver character is just a more extreme fictional version of Rupert Murdoch.

Gods Gift · 01-04-2020 09:32PM

syngindub wrote: »

whats up with people wearing masks while driving. Is it a waste of usage of a mask in a car with the windows up??

Farting in a confined space.

Lavinia · 01-04-2020 09:33PM

syngindub wrote: »

whats up with people wearing masks while driving. Is it a waste of usage of a mask in a car with the windows up??

I suppose if you go to few places you don't want to touch it till you're finished

splinter65 · 01-04-2020 09:33PM

New Home wrote: »

So ignorance is bliss?

In the 1950s TB killed 10,000 per year in Dublin alone nearly 1/2 of them children. Nobody even mentions it now. There was nothing could be done about it then until a vaccine was found, there’s nothing can be done about this either, until a vaccine is found.

BabysCoffee · 01-04-2020 09:34PM

harr wrote: »

Question, have a friend who rang me today he is a single stay at home dad , wife not around anymore ( different country) he lives near his parents who are Both over 70 other than that he has no family near to him or very close friends .. over the last few days he has got a bad cold no temperature but is feeling fairly rotten . He is now terrified he might getting/has the virus as he has no one to look after the kids and can’t really be self isolating. GP is ringing him again tomorrow to see if he needs to be tested.
Who would be best to contact if he needs outside help with the children his next of kin are both over 70 .. a very worried man tonight.

Is he in Dublin?

Most of the Local Authorities have set up Helplines to link up volunteers with people who need assistance

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/coronavirus-ireland-dublin-city-council-18016421

Loafing Oaf · 01-04-2020 09:34PM

Lavinia wrote: »

Not at all, taking they started their journey a full month before Ireland did

Assuming this is true, it doesn't refute either point Professor Moriarty made

ChikiChiki · 01-04-2020 09:34PM

syngindub wrote: »

whats up with people wearing masks while driving. Is it a waste of usage of a mask in a car with the windows up??

Could be going to/returning from testing.

Not a waste imo, same people are probably wearing it outside the car.

Corkgirl20 · 01-04-2020 09:36PM

harr wrote: »

Question, have a friend who rang me today he is a single stay at home dad , wife not around anymore ( different country) he lives near his parents who are Both over 70 other than that he has no family near to him or very close friends ......

Could you take the children for a while if needed? I mean if he rang you telling you he must consider you a good friend. He probably didn’t want to ask directly.

YFlyer · 01-04-2020 09:37PM

Anyone know what is the typical roster the doctors and nurses within the wards are on?

Lavinia · 01-04-2020 09:37PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Assuming this is true, it doesn't refute either point Professor Moriarty made

Check it online, they had their first case in end of January

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP