CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Strazdas · 01-04-2020 12:31AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

And by the way those people who say we aren't importing cases because no-one is flying have been found to be talking nonsense.

45 cases of infection from foreign travel in just todays numbers tell us there's a problem there.

And a couple of staff manning a table handing out flyers is not going to stop this.

Irish people.....the question of those being required to self isolate is a different matter (I assume you're not asking for Irish people not be allowed enter their own country?)

2ndcoming · 01-04-2020 12:31AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The US will end up having a daily rate of infection of 100k.

They more than likely already do. Testing is non existent in most of it.

ChikiChiki · 01-04-2020 12:32AM

pH wrote: »

Plenty of blame to go round.

Thats an eye opener.

2ndcoming · 01-04-2020 12:33AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Irish people.....the question of those being required to self isolate is a different matter (I assume you're not asking for Irish people not be allowed enter their own country?)

Don't assume anything around here, that's exactly what they're suggesting

MipMap · 01-04-2020 12:33AM

DebDynamite wrote: »

I’m sure they were Irish. I don’t care what nationality anyone is, there should be mandatory quarantine for anyone entering the country. Australia do it to their own citizens, why can’t we?

Because we Are IRISH we are not Australians.

DebDynamite · 01-04-2020 12:33AM

2ndcoming wrote: »

We do.

It’s not mandatory. People are advised to self isolate for 14 days. Many people are coming home to families. How effective do you really think that type of “quarantine” works? Australia put their citizens into hotels for 14 days

Kermit.de.frog · 01-04-2020 12:34AM

More on the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

US Navy Aircraft Carrier Captain Pleads for Help as Coronavirus Outbreak Worsens Aboard Ship

https://www.westernjournal.com/ap-us-aircraft-carrier-captain-pleads-help-coronavirus-outbreak-worsens-aboard-ship/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_campaign=twitter&utm_content=2020-03-31

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 12:34AM

murpho999 wrote: »

15,000 tests a day is not a PR exercise, it's a target they are working towards and they ar presently at 5,000 a day. By tests I mean results, not just swabs. They were at 2,000 last week.
People do not accept it takes to get all these things up and running.
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They said they were at 5000 a day, that is not true, they also said they were at 2000 per day also not true.

Since the start of the pandemic here we have averaged about 900 tests per day.

Last week they averaged 1745 per day although in the press conference they said they are only carrying out 1500 per day so maybe they were at 2000 for a short time but they did not sustain it and are now back to 1500 per day.

Strazdas · 01-04-2020 12:35AM

2ndcoming wrote: »

Don't assume anything around here, that's exactly what they're suggesting

Would be totally in breach of Irish people's constitutional rights to refuse them entry to their own country.

owlbethere · 01-04-2020 12:36AM

Shn99 wrote: »

The CMO was saying this evening that if the current measures take effect, we could see a relaxation of the current measures. Would this be the reopening of schools, colleges ect or what are we thinking?

I really don't know what would be involved with relaxation the measures.

It's hard to see hard to see if schools will be allowed to open. I really cants see schools opening until September. Especially it's considered this virus, children can be carriers without showing symptoms. So that would mean children can pass it around onto others and bring it home. I just can't see schools opening until September. Maybe the states exams might be allowed to go ahead although I don't know how that can happen considering the social distancing will have to be maintained more than likely.

MipMap · 01-04-2020 12:36AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

They said they were at 5000 a day, that is not true, they also said they were at 2000 per day also not true.

Since the start of the pandemic here we have averaged about 900 tests per day.

Last week they averaged 1745 per day although in the press conference they said they are only carrying out 1500 per day so maybe they were at 2000 for a short time but they did not sustain it and are now back to 1500 per day.

At 15,000 a day We would end up testing 1.5 million people in 100 days - 30% of the population

Is that the numbers they expect to be infected?

DebDynamite · 01-04-2020 12:37AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Would be totally in breach of Irish people's constitutional rights to refuse them entry to their own country.

No one here is saying to deny entry to Irish citizens

MipMap · 01-04-2020 12:38AM

DebDynamite wrote: »

No one here is saying to deny entry to Irish citizens

Deby - You don't own this country - they are citizens just like you!

Christy42 · 01-04-2020 12:38AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Thats an eye opener.

The Atlantic one (talking about how hard this is to contain) and the CNN one (mentionibg other effects of the virus) seem fine to me.

Similar for the az central one depending on what they mean by overreact

BorneTobyWilde · 01-04-2020 12:40AM

Under Obama an estimated 65 million Americans had been infected with the 2009 A H1N1 Virus and 20,000 plus Americans had died.
But no one pointed the finger at Obama, and life never changed, no lockdown, no closing of country.

Strazdas · 01-04-2020 12:40AM

owlbethere wrote: »

I really don't know what would be involved with relaxation the measures.

It's hard to see hard to see if schools will be allowed to open. I really cants see schools opening until September. Especially it's considered this virus, children can be carriers without showing symptoms. So that would mean children can pass it around onto others and bring it home. I just can't see schools opening until September. Maybe the states exams might be allowed to go ahead although I don't know how that can happen considering the social distancing will have to be maintained more than likely.

They do have to reopen the businesses and companies fairly sharpish though.....it's not even optional. Lockdown for six months would virtually wipe out the economy (causing far more damage than any virus).

voluntary · 01-04-2020 12:41AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

They said they were at 5000 a day, that is not true, they also said they were at 2000 per day also not true.

Since the start of the pandemic here we have averaged about 900 tests per day.

Last week they averaged 1745 per day although in the press conference they said they are only carrying out 1500 per day so maybe they were at 2000 for a short time but they did not sustain it and are now back to 1500 per day.

They said today that they've been doing 1500 tests a day over the last week due to a shortage of tests. It seems Ireland has difficulties securing tests.

darced · 01-04-2020 12:41AM

I see the US saying testing without being able to process the samples is a waste of time and a broken system.

babybuilder · 01-04-2020 12:42AM

cj maxx wrote: »

I wouldn't even give him that much credit. A harlequin showman who reads lines ( badly) from a teleprompter and when is required to give an actual answer blows smoke up the yanks asses with talk of ' beautiful' this and that. Greatest country in the world blah blah. A game show host.!

Ruling class hubris. It will never happen here nonsense. The manipulation of the population's psychosis by the ruling class is unreal. Their paranoia about Russia and China a prime example. Bomb the **** out of any country that stands in their way. The US will implode, maybe not because of this, but soon.

murpho999 · 01-04-2020 12:42AM

DebDynamite wrote: »

I’m sure they were Irish. I don’t care what nationality anyone is, there should be mandatory quarantine for anyone entering the country. Australia do it to their own citizens, why can’t we?

There is. All people entering the country are told to isolate for 14 days.

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 12:42AM

MipMap wrote: »

At 15,000 a day We would end up testing 1.5 million people in 100 days - 30% of the population

Is that the numbers they expect to be infected?

I suppose the more you test the more you understand how the virus as developed in the population. You can also get to forecast the amount who will need critical care or ICU. It also means you could test all your medical and essential service people quickly. It seems like a logical project otherwise you are living in the dark and only guessing if front line staff have it or if there is surge coming.

pH · 01-04-2020 12:44AM

owlbethere wrote: »

I really don't know what would be involved with relaxation the measures.

It's hard to see hard to see if schools will be allowed to open. I really cants see schools opening until September. Especially it's considered this virus, children can be carriers without showing symptoms. So that would mean children can pass it around onto others and bring it home. I just can't see schools opening until September. Maybe the states exams might be allowed to go ahead although I don't know how that can happen considering the social distancing will have to be maintained more than likely.

We can, but the Government is wasting valuable time.

We will need a rapid covid-19 response team:
- 2 hour response and test anywhere in the country
- Actual real quarantine (in covid19 hotels) of anyone testing positive.
- Testing and tracing of all contacts.
- 14 days self quarantine (monitored and legally enforced) for these contacts plus follow-up tests.

- Impeccable transmission prevention measure in hospitals and nursing homes.

- Mandatory 14 day quarantine for everyone arriving to the country from anywhere that's not 100% covid-19 free.

These measures will stop any outbreak in its tracks and allow 99.99% of the population get on with their lives once the outbreak is squashed.

But these measures need to be in place in a few of weeks time, otherwise everything we're going through now is all for nothing (in the long run) and we're just 6 weeks away from this all over again.

Strazdas · 01-04-2020 12:44AM

DebDynamite wrote: »

No one here is saying to deny entry to Irish citizens

The Govt couldn't do it even if they wanted to. Every Irish citizen has a constitutional right to re-enter the country and cannot be refused entry.

Roger_007 · 01-04-2020 12:45AM

Shn99 wrote: »

The CMO was saying this evening that if the current measures take effect, we could see a relaxation of the current measures. Would this be the reopening of schools, colleges ect or what are we thinking?

What the CMO did not say is when there could be a relaxation of the current measures. I know that he cannot be prescriptive about this but what everyone needs to to have is some indication of just how long they have to live in this twilight zone of an existence. If the message continues to be ‘as long as it takes’, there will come a point where the current acquiescence will begin to fracture.
They keep talking about ‘flattening the curve’. We all get that but we need to have some indication of when some sort of normality can return to their lives. Is it a month, or two months or six months.....or what?
We also need to know what the priorities are for returning to normal. Is it opening the schools, the parks, the restaurants, the pubs, sports events....or what?
I’m sure there is some sort of thinking or planning is going on, but FFS just share it with us so that we can have something to look forward to.
Don’t treat the people like mushrooms, (keep them in the dark and feed them sh1t).

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 12:45AM

They should ship a load of test to China on those aircraft that are going back and forth each day. The Chinese seem to have a huge testing capability and now that the virus is waning they must have spare capacity.

marno21 · 01-04-2020 12:46AM

pH wrote: »

We can, but the Government is wasting valuable time.

We will need a rapid covid-19 response team:
- 2 hour response and test anywhere in the country
- Actual real quarantine (in covid19 hotels) of anyone testing positive.
- Testing and tracing of all contacts.
- 14 days self quarantine (monitored and legally enforced) for these contacts plus follow-up tests.

- Impeccable transmission prevention measure in hospitals and nursing homes.

- Mandatory 14 day quarantine for everyone arriving to the country from anywhere that's not 100% covid-19 free.

These measures will stop any outbreak in its tracks and allow 99.99% of the population get on with their lives once the outbreak is squashed.

But these measures need to be in place in a few of weeks time, otherwise everything we're going through now is all for nothing (in the long run) and we're just 6 weeks away from this all over again.

This is not feasible at present, however, measures to allow something similar to the above to be implemented are the main reason and outcome from the lockdown we're going through.

The lockdown is to buy us time to get into a war footing to finally take on the virus. If there are 3000+ carriers of the virus in Ireland, eradication is not an option.

babybuilder · 01-04-2020 12:46AM

pH wrote: »

We can, but the Government is wasting valuable time.

We will need a rapid covid-19 response team:
- 2 hour response and test anywhere in the country
- Actual real quarantine (in covid19 hotels) of anyone testing positive.
- Testing and tracing of all contacts.
- 14 days self quarantine (monitored and legally enforced) for these contacts plus follow-up tests.

- Impeccable transmission prevention measure in hospitals and nursing homes.

- Mandatory 14 day quarantine for everyone arriving to the country from anywhere that's not 100% covid-19 free.

These measures will stop any outbreak in its tracks and allow 99.99% of the population get on with their lives once the outbreak is squashed.

But these measures need to be in place in a few of weeks time, otherwise everything we're going through now is all for nothing (in the long run) and we're just 6 weeks away from this all over again.

Spot on.

smelly sock · 01-04-2020 12:47AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

They should ship a load of test to China on those aircraft that are going back and forth each day. The Chinese seem to have a huge testing capability and now that the virus is waning they must have spare capacity.

The Chinese need the tests for themselves. Covid is rampant over there and now they have re opened the wet markets.

fritzelly · 01-04-2020 12:47AM

cameramonkey wrote: »

They should ship a load of test to China on those aircraft that are going back and forth each day. The Chinese seem to have a huge testing capability and now that the virus is waning they must have spare capacity.

Yeah but we'd only have 10 new cases per day

MipMap · 01-04-2020 12:47AM

babybuilder wrote: »

Ruling class hubris. It will never happen here nonsense. The manipulation of the population's psychosis by the ruling class is unreal. Their paranoia about Russia and China a prime example. Bomb the **** out of any country that stands in their way. The US will implode, maybe not because of this, but soon.

Not One single person in Ireland will die, go into ICU, get infected or anything else as a result of what Trump does, says or anything else.

Talking about this idiot gives him oxygen.

One of the many contradictory things he has says will prove to be right.

It will end in the Summer.
A million people will have died if we did'nt do what we did.
Blah Blah Blah

the more crap he puts out there the more likely it is that in the fullness of time something will ring true.

He will claim he always said this and the idiots that voted for him the last time will swallow it again.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP