CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

gabeeg · 31-03-2020 11:33PM

pH wrote: »

Even snopes.com says that's not true:

In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax.
snopes.com

Who's swallowing whose lies?

Oh great, now we'll all break out the quotes of trump making a complete and utter tit of himself

Thanks PH

tom_tarbucket · 31-03-2020 11:34PM

deisedevil wrote: »

Hasn't happened yet. And hopefully too many people don't start to feel comfortable because of the ridiculous positive cases figures being given out.

What do you mean by this?

bb12 · 31-03-2020 11:35PM

https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2020/03/30/why-are-they-saying-no-to-the-eurobond-the-case-for-constructive-disobedience-in-the-eu-council/

Why are they saying no to the eurobond? The case for constructive disobedience in the EU Council

leavingirl · 31-03-2020 11:35PM

Slowly, slowly the world is waking up

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6145949551001

Goodbye Rosie, the Queen of Corona

kyote00 · 31-03-2020 11:35PM

And Trump the **** stepped out of camera shot as the bad news was delivered by others.
Later he hints NYC were slow to react .....

Why don't some of the press hacks ask for his resignation ?
100k dead FFS

Talisman wrote: »

Birx and Fauci are brilliant at explaining the situation.

amadangomor · 31-03-2020 11:35PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

To be fair the equipment is very common in biology labs in universities. What would be an issue is the level of maintenance and calibration of the equipment in universities. There are very strict guidelines regarding calibration for diagnostic labs.

These would not be scalable to carry out mass testing. They are to run limited experiments on.

podgeandrodge · 31-03-2020 11:36PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So, basic enough question!

Right now, and I know we are behind in the cases being identified now, but right now, where are people getting infected in general?

Supermarket seems reasonably unlikely with distancing (hopefully)

Shared lifts/buttons, keypads etc - again, with what people now know, hopefully not too much

Public transport - not very much going on any more
Apartment blocks - people walking by each other - hopefully distancing

So where do people think the cases that we see in 2 weeks will derive from?

Ace2007 wrote: »

Well this is exactly how we are going to slow it down,

Given the latest recommendation of healthcare workers not living together, I think it's fair to say a lot of cases are coming from treating those with the virus in hospitals, and the HSE are trying to avoid large numbers of healthcare workers getting sick at the one time.

amadangomor wrote: »

Good point.

Still plenty of people going to work so this will be a driver. Only takes one person in an office to have it then the people they spread it to bring it home and infect their whole household.

Keep those ideas coming!

jimmycrackcorm · 31-03-2020 11:37PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Does anyone know why the cargo received from China was transported on Army trucks and Garda outriders with cameras rolling to capture the whole exercise?
I've seen it replayed several times.
To me it looked like a propaganda exercise.

Sky news showed video clips of British amry trucks also deliviring PPE suplies to hospitals in London. They must also be undertaking a propaganda exercise.

Also I'd say that PPE gear is worth its weight in gold these days and is probably a theft target.

threeball · 31-03-2020 11:37PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Wishful thinking, he says things in hope, not suggesting it's an absolute given, but then people use those sound-byte's to paint their narrative.

He said it would be great time to get it done, Easter. I'd agree, would you not, I too would love it to be done by Easter

Ah get off it. Hes the leader of a very powerful country. You cant just trot out any aul sh1te that comes in to your head. People and bodies rely on the info you provide. Particularly the office of POTUS

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 11:39PM

Hidden within France' figures is those for patients needing ICU beds which rose by 425 today alone.

This is what concerns the HSE here so much for good reason.

BorneTobyWilde · 31-03-2020 11:39PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Trump has been downplaying virus since January

Acosta is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad than wanting to ask a decent question on the topic of the briefing.

YFlyer · 31-03-2020 11:40PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Lidl in Doughiska Galway were only allowing 1 person per group in yesterday. Went there with my wife and she ended up waiting in the car.

Great idea.

Jinglejangle69 · 31-03-2020 11:41PM

The leader of the world.

Jesus what an absolute muppet.

Has no idea what he's doing.

Talisman · 31-03-2020 11:41PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

It most likely wasn't a PR exercise. They likely thought they had the resources (scientists/equipment) to do this but is now not possible due to the worldwide shortage in RNA extraction kits.

De Gascun was straight up saying the scaled up test levels was a target for mid to late April. The following day, Simon Harris went on national radio and said 15,000 tests in the next couple of days.

Whatever about calling it PR, there has been a pattern of managing news cycles by dropping headline grabbing numbers at appropriate times. The 15,000 tests number, the 500 ICU beds, the 5,000 tests a day numbers are each examples of that.

GooglePlus · 31-03-2020 11:41PM

leavingirl wrote: »

Slowly, slowly the world is waking up

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6145949551001

Goodbye Rosie, the Queen of Corona

Get people indoors by any means necessary.

ninebeanrows · 31-03-2020 11:41PM

Trump is some light entertainment in tumultious times

Gods Gift · 31-03-2020 11:42PM

Cheap oil.
Gasoline 99cents a gallon. Yeeeeeeehaaaaawww

owlbethere · 31-03-2020 11:43PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

At this stage I really wonder if a presser every day is absolutely necessary. We know generally how this is going to go, and hopefully it will be positive, but obviously will also be negative for many, but I'm sure you get my drift.

Same old questions from journos ( the questions seem to be longer than the answers, I cannot understand that, ask a fk question and wait for the answer), but I digress.

A recorded statement would be best. If anything worse happens and we need to be told, OK, say it.

This constant NEED for updates every day, what time is it, when will they tell us and so on doesn't mean those doing the hard graft HAVE to be live and answering the same questions every day either. Give them a break.

I was thinking the exact same. They have been so good explaining to the public what this is, and what's involved, what's coming, whats needed. They have been so so so good. They need to go home and rest and sleep and mind themselves. If there's anything else to tell us, they will let us know.

GooglePlus · 31-03-2020 11:44PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Cheap oil.
Gasoline 99cents. Yeeeeeeehaaaaawww

The states will be delighted with the lower incineration costs.

Serious death toll projections coming out there, could be a tragedy over there matching Spanish Flu or worse.

kenmc · 31-03-2020 11:44PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

Is there even immunity one you’ve gotten this virus ? I thought that was still being questioned

That's why my first line said that the best hope is that recovered people are indeed immune. If that's not true, we're completely Fcuked, capital F and all.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 11:44PM

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1245105781046902790

owlbethere · 31-03-2020 11:47PM

What is the outcome for people who would survive ICU?

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 11:47PM

LaptopGremlin wrote: »

Via JRE I've been following primarily of guru on all things bacterial and viral infections based - Dr Michael Osterholm who runs the website,

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/about-us/cidrap-staff/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph

Hydroxychlororquine will apparently come to light efficacy wise in about 6 to 10 weeks.

It the fews weeks of circulation thus far, not quite the miracle cure we may have hoped, but a potential weapon in the tool bag - how effective a weapon, clinical trials lasting 6 to 10 weeks will offer better clarity.

.

OscarMIlde · 31-03-2020 11:47PM

amadangomor wrote: »

These would not be scalable to carry out mass testing. They are to run limited experiments on.

I can assure you they are the exact same type of machines that diagnostic labs use. I've worked in both.

Gods Gift · 31-03-2020 11:48PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1245105781046902790

Trump probably thinking that graph is a before and after of a boob job

deisedevil · 31-03-2020 11:48PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Testing is a world wide issue not limited to Ireland.

But again you fail to understand, if say 500 people over the age of 80 get the virus - it's safe to say without knowing about their general health a large % of them are going to require hospital treatment and some ICU and some will sadly pass away.

If you take 500 people in their 40's the number that will go into hospital is lower, the number needing ICU will be low, and even less will pay away.

So unless you have a breakdown of the age and where the person got the virus from you can't really take anything from the number in ICU, some nursing homes in Dublin have 150+ residents - wouldn't take much of an outbreak to fill hospital ICU beds in a Dublin hospital for instance.

But that's just it. Once our ICU capacity is reached then we will start to see a huge increase in deaths.

Some people are fixated on how many are testing positive, which at the minute is pointless. The number we should be watching and worrying about is how many are requiring ICU. Once this starts to increase rapidly our hospitals will be overwhelmed and we will start to see a huge rise in deaths. Same as Italy and same as Spain. So my point is to ignore the positive cases number and just hope that our ICU numbers don't go up too fast.

kenmc · 31-03-2020 11:48PM

owlbethere wrote: »

What is the outcome for people who would survive ICU?

Surely that's the definition of "critical case recovery" no?

Strumms · 31-03-2020 11:48PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Obviously not. I'm an escort in real life.

I would have had you down as a fiesta myself.

Stheno · 31-03-2020 11:48PM

As someone who can readily work from home, I dont expect to be allowed to go into my office before sometime in June. My company fully support working from home

As restrictions get eased I suspect the government will ask companies like mine to continue this to allow a gradual return to normal life

Dr Tony said tonight that they will review restrictions Easter Sunday

Loafing Oaf · 31-03-2020 11:48PM

Loughc wrote: »

The massive slow down in % of new cases over the past few days is surely a sign we got ahead of this early when we closed the schools and colleges so soon.

It seems to be working well.

Wouldn't be cracking open the champagne just yet. Need to see a few consecutive days of decline in the actual number of new cases before we can be confident we're winning the battle

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