CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Ace2007 · 31-03-2020 10:54PM

hmmm wrote: »

We don't need it, but we should have it. Because otherwise we'll have the "they're hiding stuff from us" crowd out screaming.

I agree though that we need to go easy on the people involved, I doubt they have had a day off in months. Perhaps not every press conference needs to have questions, as they can be quite stressful to answer.

Agreed, Has Dr. Tony being on every day since this started - the guy must be exhausted.

One day I journalist asked Dr. Tony if he offered his condolences to those that passes a way - Tony was actually taken a back that this was a question.

Realistically we don't need any questions - release the figures, new cases, deaths, and those in ICU - really all that's needed.

Signore Fancy Pants · 31-03-2020 10:54PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Does anyone know why the cargo received from China was transported on Army trucks and Garda outriders with cameras rolling to capture the whole exercise?
I've seen it replayed several times.
To me it looked like a propaganda exercise.

1. The Defence Forces have drops transport trucks available to be utilised by the State.

2. Those particular DF personnel are regularly airside, no red tape with passes etc for anyone else.

3. There was a lot of media coverage stating that we were low on PPE. So its natural that when PPE artived, it would be captured by the media...its very topical like.

4. AGS outriders are needed to control the route, block off side roads, junctions etc to ensure direct transport to the destination.

5. 'Propaganda' is a poor use of term for this. It suggests the act of obtaining PPE was somehow political or misleading...whatever you are on about.

6. It wasnt a 'propaganda exercise'.

Spanish Eyes · 31-03-2020 10:55PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1244630284240379906

It's fun seeing Fox news exposed on a daily basis through this.

Off topic, so I might be told off, but honestly I have more disrespect for the Trump ass lickers and sycophants than I have for the Moron in Chief himself. They are perpetuating this debacle. Don't know why, can't figure it out.

Stripes99 · 31-03-2020 10:56PM

Im just wondering, when can things realistically go back to some form of normality

RogerThis · 31-03-2020 10:56PM

Zardaz wrote: »

Carlow is actually 4 (as the only <=5 remainder from previous day's table) and Cavan should then be 24+7 = 31, that makes it sum correctly and Cavan = 1.16% rounded = 1.2%

Is that a guess or have you something to back it up?

tobefrank321 · 31-03-2020 10:57PM

FVP3 wrote: »

But not all the news is bad, is it? The frog doesnt report the good news, and people who do dont get the thanks from the morbid brigade.

France had a low number of cases a few days ago and no link from anybody

Everything posted is the worst thing of that day. Low figures are not believed; Germany's death rate was too low for the morbid zombies., China is 40 times higher, Africa is doomed before it begins there.

Nevertheless the exponential trend, even in places like Italy, is falling.

Anyway I will be posting relatively good news every day. I do still work so I wont be able to rebut all the nonsense.

If you are looking for positivity and sunshine, this is probably not the thread for you. 25,000 people have died internationally at a bare minimum. Its a serious very contagious disease.

Covid19 has no good side to it.

Most of the good news stories around it have unfortunately been debunked such as a vaccine been mere weeks away, it only seriously impacts the very old and sick, it being nothing more than a mild flu and its easy to mass produce ventilators.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 10:57PM

Stripes99 wrote: »

Im just wondering, when can things realistically go back to some form of normality

This is the new normal

bekker · 31-03-2020 10:58PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

At this stage I really wonder if a presser every day is absolutely necessary. We know generally how this is going to go, and hopefully it will be positive, but obviously will also be negative for many, but I'm sure you get my drift.

Same old questions from journos ( the questions seem to be longer than the answers, I cannot understand that, ask a fk question and wait for the answer), but I digress.

A recorded statement would be best. If anything worse happens and we need to be told, OK, say it.

This constant NEED for updates every day, what time is it, when will they tell us and so on doesn't mean those doing the hard graft HAVE to be live and answering the same questions every day either. Give them a break.

You are mistaking 'responding to' with 'answering', the reason the same people are present is probably a wish to appear to be speaking authoritatively. It is their choice to always use same small group.

In general it's a messy format, better to release embargoed report to press, to get informed focussed questions. But maybe they don't want that, or they don't trust press to stick to embargo, and they've been let down before.

Why there is a need to read it out line by line without a large screen scrolling display is a puzzle.

As for questions, the press are quoting from Twitter, YouTube et all, reduced it to government hand-outs, and conspiracy theories go exponential.

Ace2007 · 31-03-2020 10:59PM

Stripes99 wrote: »

Im just wondering, when can things realistically go back to some form of normality

Imo we won't go back to full normality until the vaccine is available. Normality being you can get on a plane and go anywhere in the world and not live in fear.

I think when this is done, the idea of getting a flight to Manchester for 20quid will be a distant memory - Airlines will need cash and so flights will be expensive - people be so happy to travel they'll pay the fee too.

I hope that the idea of visiting sick and those in homes, goes on no more than 3/4 months - but I don't really know how that will work - at some stage you'd think they will have to let families see loved ones etc.

Not in Kansas · 31-03-2020 11:00PM

dublinman1990 wrote: »

There has been a suspected case of Coronavirus located in Blackrock, Co.Dublin. Emergency services had attended a location outside a house along the Blackrock by-pass in Temple Road just after 4pm this afternoon. <SNIP>

Now what I am posting is obviously unverified information. If anyone living near the house wants to say that this information is not true. That is fine with me as long as we are informed about it. When this crisis has unfolded only weeks ago; I didn't want to take the risk of walking outside that house because I didn't want to get the virus spread onto me & onto other people as I went home. I took the instant precaution of turning around straight away & walked back onto another road to make my journey home instead which was the right thing to do under the circumstances. Just a word of advice to you all. If you do see any emergency service personnel outside someone's property on your travels. Just be very careful in avoiding the virus being spread onto you whenever you do see them. Follow the official medical advice from our government & the HSE & self isolate at home immediately if you ever get symptoms.

Thanks.

What in the name of Jaysus is this? I know several people that have been tested. I've had an ambulance on my street twice. Why are you practically pointing to a possible suspected case? Lunacy. You should be informed about it? Maybe I am taking my anger out on you because I've had a lot of bad news today but what on on Earth are you on about?

Ha Long Bay · 31-03-2020 11:00PM

Stripes99 wrote: »

Im just wondering, when can things realistically go back to some form of normality

19th July the same day the Ice Age ended.

Fiery mutant · 31-03-2020 11:01PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Nowhere in that letter does it say anything like that. I'm afraid it's you who is being disingenuous.

I know your name says Professor, but it’s obviously no relation to your real life role.

leavingirl · 31-03-2020 11:01PM

"Confirmed coronavirus cases is an almost meaningless metric"

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-28/confirmed-coronavirus-cases-is-an-almost-meaningless-metric

Martina1991 · 31-03-2020 11:01PM

RobertKK wrote: »

More testing, over 100,000 tests per day in the US at the moment.

About 65,000 coronavirus tests are being performed on Americans each day — a meteoric rise from just 10 days ago. But public health experts say that about 150,000 tests are needed every day, so that infected patients can be quickly identified and separated.

The United States cannot even test everyone who is sick because of a shortage of testing kits and personal protective equipment for health care workers. At the Elmhurst Hospital Center in Queens, the line of people waiting outside for a test forms as early as 6 a.m., with some staying until 5 p.m. Many go home without being tested.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/26/us/coronavirus-testing-states.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Ireland even offering testing in the community is a positive thing. Some countries can only test those who have been hospitalised.

Stripes99 · 31-03-2020 11:01PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Imo we won't go back to full normality until the vaccine is available. Normality being you can get on a plane and go anywhere in the world and not live in fear.

I think when this is done, the idea of getting a flight to Manchester for 20quid will be a distant memory - Airlines will need cash and so flights will be expensive - people be so happy to travel they'll pay the fee too.

I hope that the idea of visiting sick and those in homes, goes on no more than 3/4 months - but I don't really know how that will work - at some stage you'd think they will have to let families see loved ones etc.

So you reckon this way of living is likely to go on for a number of months to come??

Jinglejangle69 · 31-03-2020 11:01PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

At this stage I really wonder if a presser every day is absolutely necessary. We know generally how this is going to go, and hopefully it will be positive, but obviously will also be negative for many, but I'm sure you get my drift.

Same old questions from journos ( the questions seem to be longer than the answers, I cannot understand that, ask a fk question and wait for the answer), but I digress.

A recorded statement would be best. If anything worse happens and we need to be told, OK, say it.

This constant NEED for updates every day, what time is it, when will they tell us and so on doesn't mean those doing the hard graft HAVE to be live and answering the same questions every day either. Give them a break.

The biggest issue our generation faces. People in lockdown, 500,000 lost their jobs, measures we have never seen before.

And you are giving out we are getting daily updates from our representatives.

Seriously what is wrong with you people?

Do you ever have anything constructive to add to the conversation?

Funsterdelux · 31-03-2020 11:01PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Agreed, Has Dr. Tony being on every day since this started - the guy must be exhausted.

One day I journalist asked Dr. Tony if he offered his condolences to those that passes a way - Tony was actually taken a back that this was a question.

Realistically we don't need any questions - release the figures, new cases, deaths, and those in ICU - really all that's needed.

He was interviewed on a weekend and he was wearing more casual clothes, so Im sure hes taking a few hours at the weekend, he'd have to otherwise it would eat you up.

Quantum Erasure · 31-03-2020 11:03PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Nevada, a state in one of the richest countries in the world, has painted social-distancing boxes on a concrete parking lot for the homeless to sleep in.https://twitter.com/Manda_like_wine/status/1244602911084154880

they should have gone for a checkerboard pattern, only sleep in the unpainted squares

TheDoctor · 31-03-2020 11:04PM

john4321 wrote: »

19th July the same day the Ice Age ended.

Great to be able to celebrate Galway being liberated from the Indians

Spanish Eyes · 31-03-2020 11:04PM

bekker wrote: »

You are mistaking 'responding to' with 'answering', the reason the same people are present is probably a wish to appear to be speaking authoritatively. It is they're choice to always use same small group.

In general it's a messy format, better to release embargoed report to press, to get informed focussed questions. But maybe they don't want that, or they don't trust press to stick to embargo, and they've been let down before.

Why there is a need to read it out line by line without a large screen scrolling display is a puzzle.

TBH maybe they are trying to stop speculation. But that cat is out of the bag on Whatsapp etc. anyway.

They need a break now from live daily pressers. Everyone knows what's happening now. Good news is good news, and bad is bad, that can be communicated with a press release.

Then a once a week update. This is not ending after the Easter break, so pacing is needed now. Otherwise people will get fed up and get sick of listening anymore. And off they go ignoring all the rules.

It is the so called "Lockdown" rules that should be hammered home now I think. But that's just me.

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 11:04PM

Fiery mutant wrote: »

I know your name says Professor, but it’s obviously no relation to your real life role.

Obviously not. I'm an escort in real life.

fr336 · 31-03-2020 11:04PM

I don't understand how 100 year olds can recover yet 13 year olds with no underlying conditions die?

BorneTobyWilde · 31-03-2020 11:05PM

Seriously critical up from 59 to 103 , that's not good.

threeball · 31-03-2020 11:06PM

Trump wont say the numbers of predicted deaths on camera, presumably as he doesnt want it used in the future presidential elections.

niallo27 · 31-03-2020 11:06PM

fr336 wrote: »

I don't understand how 100 year olds can recover yet 13 year olds with no underlying conditions die?

That's life, its **** sometimes. Happens every day.

LRNM · 31-03-2020 11:07PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So they're saying that unqualified people are staffing ambulances when qualified people are available? And your problem with that is?

They're wording it to make it sound like that. When infact, EMT's are PHECC registered practitioners with a skillset and medication index quite similar to a paramedics. They're appropriate to deal with the vast majority of calls the ambulance service receives.

They've been given extra training and familiarisation over the past week and have been trained to swab people just like the paramedics have.

The arrangement NAS have put in place is for 1 EMT to staff and ambulance with 1 Paramedic. Rather than having 2 paramedics on an ambulance.

This is more than appropriate.

BorneTobyWilde · 31-03-2020 11:07PM

fr336 wrote: »

I don't understand how 100 year olds can recover yet 13 year olds with no underlying conditions die?

A dose, or a bad dose, something old folks would say, but is that a reality, or is every infection level in its intensity

Cody montana · 31-03-2020 11:07PM

They are aiming for 100,000 dead in the USA.

Ace2007 · 31-03-2020 11:08PM

Stripes99 wrote: »

So you reckon this way of living is likely to go on for a number of months to come??

They may lax the rules somewhat but when you have healthcare workers being asked to live in isolation (i.e. healthcare workers not all living together), you can't let the general public go out to the beach at the weekend.

Like people say that the city is dead etc, but if you went into a hospital it's probably been as busy as it's every been, especially ICU beds.

I think I'll be working from home until August at the earliest - I hope I'm wrong - I just don't see how they can let everything go back to normal without a widescale vaccine.

sadie1502 · 31-03-2020 11:08PM

fr336 wrote: »

I don't understand how 100 year olds can recover yet 13 year olds with no underlying conditions die?

No one seems to know. That's why we're here.

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