CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

sterz · 31-03-2020 08:56PM

Tandey wrote: »

Went to get some diesel earlier this evening. Went to an applegreen that has a Burger King open for business, within the building.

What I saw next I could not believe and had to do more than a double take. As I was parking a noticed a guy in the passenger seat of a SUV gobbling down some chips while wearing a pair of those surgical gloves. Must admit I did lol at him.

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Ficheall · 31-03-2020 08:56PM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

ANOTHER FECKING MASSIVE SPREADSHEET FOR FUTURE GUESSING

People have calculators (or google). If there are C cases now, then in T days, at a rate of increase D (in decimal form, feel free to pluck the number from your arse) there will be Cx(1+D)^T cases.
Multiply by other numbers plucked pseudorandomly from your arse to give the number of deaths, ICU patiets, etc.

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 08:56PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Not correct!

In fact our death rate per million is almost half that of Britain.

gmisk · 31-03-2020 08:56PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Just heard on the radio we have a worse death rate per capita than the UK. Can't be accurate surely.

It isn't true.
Ours is currently 14 per million UK is 26 per million.

The UK also seemingly not recording a number of nursing home deaths in their figures currently.

weldoninhio · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

More like initially it was 'test, test, test.
Then the signs and symptoms were increased which brought more into the loop.
Then they were reduced again and the list torn up.

And now we're back to 1500 per day apparently with long waits for results.
And a relation of mine is back driving a bus today and still hasn't got his results after 12 days.

A doctor in the clinic I work in is still waiting for results too. She’s out since March 11th. Feels fine now, but can’t return to work until she gets the result, it’s an absolute farce.

patnor1011 · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

An article this morning claims NYC is facing a catastrophe because they have had 450 Coronavirus deaths since January & someone is dying every 17 minutes. So you know—regularly, NYC has 419 deaths every single day & loses a person every 9 minutes. Just for perspective.

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) March 28, 2020

igCorcaigh · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Just heard on the radio we have a worse death rate per capita than the UK. Can't be accurate surely.

No.

Uk: 26
Ireland: 14

Deaths per million

JoChervil · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

No. Covid-19 can trigger a cykotine attack. It's the immune system spiralling out of control and attacking the lungs and other organs.

Probably it can trigger as anything else in very rare cases. Spanish flu killed healthy young people just because of it.

LRNM · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

Tandey wrote: »

Went to get some diesel earlier this evening. Went to an applegreen that has a Burger King open for business, within the building.

What I saw next I could not believe and had to do more than a double take. As I was parking a noticed a guy in the passenger seat of a SUV gobbling down some chips while wearing a pair of those surgical gloves. Must admit I did lol at him.

This is a healthcare trade secret to keep grease off your hands.

Sometimes you just gotta eat a greasy burger while having no access to wet wipes or water.

Danzy · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

The testing regime failures mean that we are likely missing thousands of positive tests per week.

Not perfect but one of the better responses globally.

Witcher · 31-03-2020 08:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Im gonna go with yes....i know of no pharma factory with no lab facilities,do you??

Just get the equipemt calibrated

'Just get the equipment calibrated'

It's as simple as that in your world...christ.

BanditLuke · 31-03-2020 08:58PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Not correct!

Yeah just had a look at the numbers not correct at all. BBC radio need to do better research

cameramonkey · 31-03-2020 08:58PM

gmisk wrote: »

It isn't true.
Ours is currently 14 per million UK is 26 per million.

The UK also seemingly not recording a number of nursing home deaths in their figures currently.

How is our testing compared to other countries?

Jinglejangle69 · 31-03-2020 08:58PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

It was all a PR exercise for Leo and Simon. And the majority fell for it.

Leo wanted out the day before we closed schools and this **** show started.

This is far from a pr exercise.

cajonlardo · 31-03-2020 08:58PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I didn't read his post that way tbh. I read it that he was actually taking exercise responsibly, but neighbours were giving out that he shouldn't be out walking, and he said that he wasn't going to be lectured by people like them, i.e. telling him he could not go for a walk. That's how I read it...

That is exactly what I meant. The one lecturing me and his family are, through their reckless life choices, a far bigger threat than anyone following the current exercise guidelines.

brwh11 · 31-03-2020 08:58PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

The fact there are now 71 deaths indicates there are (at least) 7,100 case in the country.

Heard virologist (from Queens in Belfast) the other day say that for every death there are a minimum of 100 cases (confirmed or unconfirmed).

It actually means there were approximately 7,000 cases 10-14 days ago because that is the average time from contracting virus to becoming seriously ill and eventually dying.
Or more like 3,000 assuming a mortality rate of less than 5%.
Then you can extrapolate over say 10 days from 3,000 cases, at a growth rate of say 15% per day giving you an estimate of today's actual infected cases of 115,000.
The figures can be played with any way you want, and the calculations are very sensitive to the inputs, but this is a logic I saw very well explained somewhere and it does make sense.
Essentially what is happening today in terms of deaths and ICU cases is a true reflection of what was happening on the ground 10-14 days ago.

cameramonkey · 31-03-2020 08:59PM

Danzy wrote: »

Not perfect but one of the better responses globally.

Really what are the figures?

Martina1991 · 31-03-2020 08:59PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote:

They could run it 24 hours a day while they are getting another one up and running. Surely there are 10/15 people in the country who can run one.

Hospital labs are already running 24 hours a day.

There are shortages in necessary reagents that is a problem for many countries.

Opening up other labs isn't going to help that. They dont have the equipment, materials or staff to provide the service.

Fann Linn · 31-03-2020 09:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Im gonna go with yes....i know of no pharma factory with no lab facilities,do you??

Just get the equipemt calibrated

EPA, Councils, Pharma, Universrsitys. There must be tonnes of labs plus technicians, scientists, chemistry professors available.
I'd say the only things missing are the testing kits.

Jinglejangle69 · 31-03-2020 09:00PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

Really what are the figures?

What are the figures for every country?

gmisk · 31-03-2020 09:00PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

How is our testing compared to other countries?

I think at one stage we were one of the highest per head in Europe (South Korea seemed to be far and away the best for testing) but not sure to be honest now. Hard to find accurate figures for most countries

ooter · 31-03-2020 09:00PM

Ireland have more cases per 1m of population than the UK, not deaths.

Quantum Erasure · 31-03-2020 09:01PM

we'll get proper numbers of people in ICU on prime time, after the news

martingriff · 31-03-2020 09:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Im gonna go with yes....i know of no pharma factory with no lab facilities,do you??

Just get the equipemt calibrated

You think the calibration is that easy they needed to be tested and certified which does not happen over night. We don't want faulty test results now do we

Just because they are a pharma factory does not mean they have the equipment for testing a virus.

podgeandrodge · 31-03-2020 09:01PM

cajonlardo wrote: »

some lecturing so & so... isn't going to lecture me.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

And this folks is the type of specimen responsible for the forced measures that need to be taken restricting your lives.

Unfortunately some are just incapable of behaving responsibly.

I didn't read his post that way tbh. I read it that he was actually taking exercise responsibly, but neighbours were giving out that he shouldn't be out walking, and he said that he wasn't going to be lectured by people like them, i.e. telling him he could not go for a walk. That's how I read it...

cajonlardo wrote: »

Yeah
Got a lecture from a neighbour about this might happen, that might happen and you could land up taking a space in A&E if you go out exercising.

Stupid ignorant obese so&so standing there leaning on his gate smoking his brains out and his wife driving a mini Cooper like she is rallying.

Don't know if it's anxiety over the current threat or were there always so many hypocritical and dog ignorant twats in this country.

Personally, I'll take every step I can to behave responsibly but some lecturing so & so who is a lifelong problem to our health service through personal choice isn't going to lecture me.

Regarding runners, I see plenty round here. Can't see them in groups, haven't once seen one spitting, they move to the side opposite the one I move to.
Hardly surprising, if they run, it's most likely they care about their health and thus do not want to take unnecessary risks.

In fact you completely mispresented what cajonlardo said. If you're going to quote them, quote them fully rather than placing a few choice words out of context in fairness to him.

Duke of Url · 31-03-2020 09:01PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Just heard on the radio we have a worse death rate per capita than the UK. Can't be accurate surely.

No. I think if we were the UK we would have 975 deaths 71x13.75

The UK have 1700 deaths

wakka12 · 31-03-2020 09:01PM

Mad to think the first case in China was only confirmed 3 months to the day

OUTOFSYNC · 31-03-2020 09:01PM

99 deaths for population of 6.6 million ( on island). I'd prefer if that death rate was lower.

31-03-2020 09:01PM

Supercell wrote: »

I've seen on another forum that the testing is not able to distinguish between COVID19 and the regular coronavirus, aka the common cold. This could explain the disparity in symptoms in many cases, it really is just a cold the person has.
Would love to get a doctor's comment on that.

Not a doctor, but 85-90% of common colds are not caused by a coronavirus(mostly rhinovirus). There are 7 known varieties of human coronavirus. 4 cause common colds, the other 3 are SARS, MERS and Covid19. If we were not able to differentiate there would only be 1 variety. To put it in context coronavirus is a family of viruses in the same way that rodents are a family of mammals. We still can know rat from mouse DNA.

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 09:02PM

JoChervil wrote: »

Probably it can trigger as anything else in very rare cases. Spanish flu killed healthy young people just because of it.

No, if you're going to die from Covid-19, it is because your immune system overreacts and attacks your organs - primarily your lungs. Unless you have a preexisting condition that's exacerbated by Covid-19 and you die from that.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP