CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

martingriff · 31-03-2020 07:34PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

I'm very curious as to why they haven't been able to run more tests . They are firing money around like mad at the moment so it can't be that.

Very specialized labs have to do them. 1 can not be knocked up in a month never mind a day

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 07:34PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

I'm very curious as to why they haven't been able to run more tests . They are firing money around like mad at the moment so it can't be that.

Can't get the kits for the labs they said, it's a worldwide problem.

SuperTortoise · 31-03-2020 07:34PM

Why does it effect two similar people in different ways, take for example two confirmed cases, both around the same age, both healthy with no underlying conditions, yet one might have very mild symptoms and the other might end up in ICU, could it have anything to do with the load of infection, i.e one gets a large dose and the body does'nt have time to react? Has anyone come across any research done on this?

flashforward · 31-03-2020 07:34PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

I'm very curious as to why they haven't been able to run more tests . They are firing money around like mad at the moment so it can't be that.

Good question. They mentioned the reagents - it's obviously a challenging market but other countries are managing to up their testing capacity.

Maybe it suits some people to keep the number of daily cases artificially low???

Talisman · 31-03-2020 07:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It seems like it’s some kind of morbid race to see who can be first to shout the bad news, instead of waiting for the press conference so that the rest of us can see numbers that we can trust

The media presentation is just them presenting the numbers officially but they are published earlier on the HSPC website.

COVID-19 Health Surveillance Monitor

gabeeg · 31-03-2020 07:35PM

martingriff wrote: »

Whats your point here?

They tested 5000 by swabbing people

A test without a result is of little use to us when we're in an emergency

Funsterdelux · 31-03-2020 07:35PM

tuxy wrote: »

What's more common in my area is people standing in one spot, usually in the way of people trying to walk.
Just looking around at random things in the hope of spotting something interesting. It looks so odd.

OK

As long as they moved before the 15 min limit

MrMusician18 · 31-03-2020 07:35PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

I'm very curious as to why they haven't been able to run more tests . They are firing money around like mad at the moment so it can't be that.

It isn't for the lack of trying. They don't have the equipment at present to scale the tests would be my guess.

That or the people. But if they never had the people they wouldn't be able to claim that they could scale the tests.

martingriff · 31-03-2020 07:35PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

It will get far higher than that over the next few weeks. Trump will still try to gloss over it though.

And apparently they are sending money and help to Italy.

fritzelly · 31-03-2020 07:36PM

Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »

It is clearly a cumulative number if you read the report:

Total number of cases 2677
Total number hospitalised 703
Total number admitted to ICU 113
Total number of deaths 64
Total number of healthcare workers 674
Number clusters notified 118
Median age 47

You won't give up and just admit you are wrong - confirmed from multiple sources it is that day's figure

niallo27 · 31-03-2020 07:36PM

Jnj ramping up for production of a vaccine by September. They are trying to take the time to produce mass numbers out of it. If enough giant companies do this it may reduce the wait time by 6 to 9 months.

JoChervil · 31-03-2020 07:36PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The virus needs new people to infect, otherwise it dies.

If everyone stayed more than 2 meters away from one another for 2 weeks the virus would have nowhere to go, and the pandemic would stop dead.

We will not have a vaccine for 12 to 18 months so new antiviral meds or re-purposing known meds are the best short term hope for mitigating the outbreak.

But people are sick longer than 2 weeks, so it won't die in 2 weeks, see how many haven't recover yet from this cruise ship

threeball · 31-03-2020 07:37PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

It will get far higher than that over the next few weeks. Trump will still try to gloss over it though.

He cant bluff his way out of this one. Even the republicans are turning on him. His ex press secretary was on Sky earlier and he was none too complementary either.

What Username Guidelines · 31-03-2020 07:37PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The virus needs new people to infect, otherwise it dies.

If everyone stayed more than 2 meters away from one another for 2 weeks the virus would have nowhere to go, and the pandemic would stop dead.

We will not have a vaccine for 12 to 18 months so new antiviral meds or re-purposing known meds are the best short term hope for mitigating the outbreak.

People are still working, can’t stop that. People still having to get groceries, etc. Also, there are overlaps so someone picks it up, goes home to a family of 5 and, while unlikely, it could in theory take 10 weeks to chain along the family.

Unfortunately it cannot be eradicated by everyone laying low for any amount of time. Because not everyone can do that

31-03-2020 07:37PM

martingriff wrote: »

Very specialized labs have to do them. 1 can not be knocked up in a month never mind a day

Why not hire some of the equipment off the pharmacutical industry/hire some.their staff??

I know of 2 large pharma factories,which are effectively closed at the min

gabeeg · 31-03-2020 07:38PM

martingriff wrote: »

Very specialized labs have to do them. 1 can not be knocked up in a month never mind a day

They've been knocked up in far less time in a month around the world, and we've had known cases outside of China for well over a month.

martingriff · 31-03-2020 07:38PM

gabeeg wrote: »

A test without a result is of little use to us when we're in an emergency

But they are testing people. When I go and get my bloods done I say I am getting tests I don't wait until I get the results to say I got a test today. All you are trying to do is mix words for a narrative does not seem to be working on most

Reckless Abandonment · 31-03-2020 07:38PM

martingriff wrote: »

Very specialized labs have to do them. 1 can not be knocked up in a month never mind a day

They could run it 24 hours a day while they are getting another one up and running. Surely there are 10/15 people in the country who can run one.

1wizards sleeve · 31-03-2020 07:38PM

The Dublin mountain walkers numbers are adding up now. I'd also love to know how many people got this virus by rushing like absolute greedy ignorant fools to do huge shops and packing into supermarkets. Hoarding loo roll and rice and pasta

Duke of Url · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

Critically ill patients with Covid19 in Ireland will be asked to take part in a clinical trial on how to treat the disease.

The trial will test the effects of different interventions for Covid 19 patients, who are being treated in intensive care units.

These interventions include antiviral drugs and immunomodulatory drugs.

St Vincent's University Hospital in Dublin and University Hospital Galway will begin the trialing these interventions next week, which is part of a global research effort to tackle the pandemic.

Other hospitals, including Beaumont Hospital, Cork University Hospital, University Hospital Limerick and the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast are also expected to take part in the trial at a later date.

RTE

cajonlardo · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

lawred2 wrote: »

100% that

But also people just want out of their house on their own for some exercise...

It's so low risk as to be irrelevant.

Maybe those so bothered would be better served with a bit of exercise themselves.

Yeah
Got a lecture from a neighbour about this might happen, that might happen and you could land up taking a space in A&E if you go out exercising.

Stupid ignorant obese so&so standing there leaning on his gate smoking his brains out and his wife driving a mini Cooper like she is rallying.

Don't know if it's anxiety over the current threat or were there always so many hypocritical and dog ignorant twats in this country.

Personally, I'll take every step I can to behave responsibly but some lecturing so & so who is a lifelong problem to our health service through personal choice isn't going to lecture me.

Regarding runners, I see plenty round here. Can't see them in groups, haven't once seen one spitting, they move to the side opposite the one I move to.
Hardly surprising, if they run, it's most likely they care about their health and thus do not want to take unnecessary risks.

cameramonkey · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

There average testing per day rate now since the first case is about 910.

Last week the tested 10500 according to the press conference
The week previous to that they tested just under 8000.

So this week they have said they tested 2500 more than last week or an increase of approx 357 per day over last week.

flashforward · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

martingriff wrote: »

But they are testing people. When I go and get my bloods done I say I am getting tests I don't wait until I get the results to say I got a test today. All you are trying to do is mix words for a narrative does not seem to be working on most

Unfortunately 'most' are 5/8ths

Macdarack · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

blackcard wrote: »

One of the learnings from the 2010 big freeze was to have sufficient salt available for our roads and this hasn't been an issue since. Some of the learnings from the current crisis?
Sufficient ventilators?
Additional Test kits?
Sufficient reagents?
Sufficient masks and other personal protection equipment?
Additional measures for nursing homes?
Measures such as perspex glass in shops?
Hygiene education and practices?
Increased numbers of ICU's?
Increased capability to work from home?
Not to believe a fraction of what you read on social media?
Social distancing?
What else?

Bog roll for the simpletons.

bekker · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

There does not seem to be any separation of COVID-19 infected patients from non-COVID-19 patients in ICUs and HDUs in Ireland is that correct?

Can't find any information available on physically separate units, all appear to be accommodated within existing structures.

This could become crucial going forward.

Tandey · 31-03-2020 07:39PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

No, they did off a bat from China.

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 07:40PM

A familiar story to us on PPE.

The Canadian government aid it would spend C$2 billion to help buy supplies amid complaints from some doctors and nurses about shortages of personal protection equipment.

martingriff · 31-03-2020 07:40PM

gabeeg wrote: »

They've been knocked up in far less time in a month around the world, and we've had known cases outside of China for well over a month.

Knocked up labs or places to used for testing people. Labs can not be knocked up unless you have the specialized equipment and been calibrated to do the test.

gozunda · 31-03-2020 07:40PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

I'm very curious as to why they haven't been able to run more tests . They are firing money around like mad at the moment so it can't be that.

They've ran out of supplies several times afaik when taking scheduled swabs. That and a shortage of reagent to test swabs taken from those referred for testing.

There is currently a backlog of people awaiting their test results.

Looks like the system for swabbing / testing is not working particularly well tbh.

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 07:41PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Critically ill patients with Covid19 in Ireland will be asked to take part in a clinical trial on how to treat the disease.

The trial will test the effects of different interventions for Covid 19 patients, who are being treated in intensive care units.

These interventions include antiviral drugs and immunomodulatory drugs.

St Vincent's University Hospital in Dublin and University Hospital Galway will begin the trialing these interventions next week, which is part of a global research effort to tackle the pandemic.

Other hospitals, including Beaumont Hospital, Cork University Hospital, University Hospital Limerick and the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast are also expected to take part in the trial at a later date.

RTE

Is that part of the WHO megatrial?

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