CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 01:40PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Can you imagine it in July ? with 35C heat outside and trying to keep people away from the beaches ?

Not to mention next summer 2021 ....

f*cking sh!tshow, the whole thing ...

You'll be free long before then!

gabeeg · 31-03-2020 01:40PM

wakka12 wrote: »

UAE has tested 300,000 people out of it's population of 9.1 million. I assume that is the highest level per capita in the world. It has just 600 cases, so coronvairus is clearly not at widespread pandemic levels in all regions on earth

Not sure of how far they've gotten with it, but Iceland are hoping to test everybody that is willing to have one.

ITman88 · 31-03-2020 01:41PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I strongly suspect we'll not see similar here ITS, or it'll be isolated cases. For a few reasons. I know it's a bit of a stereotype, but we're generally not as "hot headed" as some cultures and we tend to be more compliant socially and with regard to the authorities and there's the "shure it'll be grand like" factor here.

Secondly our population density and type of average housing that will be yet another factor in lessening both the spread and community psychology. Being cooped up in an apartment block with a thousand others is a lot harder on the mind than being inside a house with a garden. A family of four or five stuck in a house is tough enough, but the same setup in a generally much smaller apartment is much tougher. Having being "on the ground" in such places down the years, the culture is a much more outside where we live focused one than Ireland's. We're more house and indoors focused. Even our climate might come into it too. Baking hot summers are harder to stay in for and tempers can fray.

Even how we get around could make a difference. In high living density areas people are more likely to walk and use public transport, the latter being a much bigger contagion risk than Ireland where we tend to drive ourselves more.

I hope your right, but if food and money runs out it’s everyman for himself and we will get hot headed quick enough.

Lillyfae · 31-03-2020 01:41PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Rutte and co went down the Herd Immunity path and it is going to bite them royally on the ass.

What? I've been working from home since the 9th of March now. The bars/restaurants/gyms etc, as well as the schools, have been officially closed since the 15th. Not the "we'll leave it up to yourselves" stuff with the hospitality sector that's going on in Ireland. With the schools the acted 1 working day after Ireland did.

The Netherlands is a country the size of Munster with almost 4 times the population of Ireland. In parts of the country Carnival was being celebrated in February. Many, many people partake in wintersports between December and March every year. The first confirmed case here partook in very risky and selfish behaviour, getting out of Northern Italy when Carnival there was being cancelled due to Covid-19 only to return and celebrate whatever was left going on here. A lot of events were cancelled.

I'm no champion of Rutte, but what they're trying to do is

Keep the economy from collapsing
Keep the healthcare system and workers from collapsing
The same as any other country in Western Europe

The numbers are only identifying what the testing capacity is ffs

Downlinz · 31-03-2020 01:42PM

Lwaker. wrote: »

How long can we afford the current lockdown?

A lockdown until we have low numbers is the best economic solution, it's not a question of affording it.

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 01:42PM

Lwaker. wrote: »

How long can we afford the current lockdown?

Do? About 4 weeks. Afford? Anything over 3-4 months will really screw us.

Rob A. Bank · 31-03-2020 01:42PM

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 31 March 2020 @ 08:00

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Overall cases on the way down past the peak in Europe ?

Too early to say but 'fingers crossed'.

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

ITman88 · 31-03-2020 01:42PM

Lwaker. wrote: »

How long can we afford the current lockdown?

We can’t, our kids will pay for it

Gynoid · 31-03-2020 01:42PM

I don't know who Paddy Cosgrove is, never heard of him before, cannot be bothered to google him as I get the impression from yiz all that he is a bit of a prick. But reading this thread is like a litany of his name, repeated again and again. Can we leave him alone now, the bollox. Please.

On a different note I saw some celeb on some online newspaper being described as a "quarantine icon". Not because she was helping or anything, I think, but because she was being preppy and glamorous on Instagram or something, in spite of it all. Jesus, we are a vacuous civilisation.

AllGunsBlazing · 31-03-2020 01:43PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Can you imagine it in July ? with 35C heat outside and trying to keep people away from the beaches ?

Not to mention next summer 2021 ....

f*cking sh!tshow, the whole thing ...

A summer of lockdown in a Mediterranean country would be hell on Earth. Especially for those who live in apartments.

ITman88 · 31-03-2020 01:44PM

Downlinz wrote: »

A lockdown until we have low numbers is the best economic solution, it's not a question of affording it.

Article in the guardian stated that a 6.4% shrink in the economy is the equilibrium, they conducted a study last week in the UK

blackcard · 31-03-2020 01:49PM

billybonkers wrote: »

HSE saying no nurses have died from Covid19

https://twitter.com/HSELive/status/1244942663142563841

There is so much false information being put out on social media, you then have people who forward on this information as fact. You have to question the agenda of a lot of people. Do they want to spread fear or misery or chaos, do they hate particular organisations or do they want to bring other people down to their level?

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 01:51PM

blackcard wrote: »

There is so much false information being put out on social media, you then have people who forward on this information as fact. You have to question the agenda of a lot of people. Do they want to spread fear or misery or chaos, do they hate particular organisations or do they want to bring other people down to their level?

For many, it's all three.

lbj666 · 31-03-2020 01:51PM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

A summer of lockdown in a Mediterranean country would be hell on Earth. Especially for those who live in apartments.

Add to that the heatwaves in Europe last year killed thousands

Strazdas · 31-03-2020 01:52PM

blackcard wrote: »

There is so much false information being put out on social media, you then have people who forward on this information as fact. You have to question the agenda of a lot of people. Do they want to spread fear or misery or chaos, do they hate particular organisations or do they want to bring other people down to their level?

Cosgrave should never have put out that tweet last night. It probably freaked relatives of medical staff out and made it look like the govt and HSE are involved in a massive cover up.

Miss OMMC · 31-03-2020 01:54PM

If a person works entirely alone at a workshop 20mins from their home, is this allowed? It's small scale manufacturering but not essential.

froog · 31-03-2020 01:55PM

Gynoid wrote: »

I don't know who Paddy Cosgrove is, never heard of him before, cannot be bothered to google him as I get the impression from yiz all that he is a bit of a prick. But reading this thread is like a litany of his name, repeated again and again. Can we leave him alone now, the bollox. Please.

On a different note I saw some celeb on some online newspaper being described as a "quarantine icon". Not because she was helping or anything, I think, but because she was being preppy and glamorous on Instagram or something, in spite of it all. Jesus, we are a vacuous civilisation.

never heard of him either until recently, but i hope the people of ireland remember that low life when this is all over.

Strazdas · 31-03-2020 01:56PM

Gynoid wrote: »

I don't know who Paddy Cosgrove is, never heard of him before, cannot be bothered to google him as I get the impression from yiz all that he is a bit of a prick. But reading this thread is like a litany of his name, repeated again and again. Can we leave him alone now, the bollox. Please.

On a different note I saw some celeb on some online newspaper being described as a "quarantine icon". Not because she was helping or anything, I think, but because she was being preppy and glamorous on Instagram or something, in spite of it all. Jesus, we are a vacuous civilisation.

He's stirring it every day on Twitter and won't back down. He's not being name checked here over something he said two weeks ago : every day he's coming out with new attacks on the Govt and HSE (he's been posting in the last few minutes).

CitizenFloor · 31-03-2020 01:56PM

Miss OMMC wrote: »

If a person works entirely alone at a workshop 20mins from their home, is this allowed? It's small scale manufacturering but not essential.

I wont tell if you don't.

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 01:57PM

Strazdas wrote: »

He's stirring it every day on Twitter and won't back down. He's not being name checked here over something he said two weeks ago : every day he's coming out with new attacks on the Govt and HSE (he's been posting in the last few minutes).

If people stopped reading his tweets then his tweeting would be pointless.

Hector Savage · 31-03-2020 01:59PM

is_that_so wrote: »

You'll be free long before then!

fecking hope so!!

otherwise i'll be sneaking down to the beach ...

Downlinz · 31-03-2020 02:00PM

Miss OMMC wrote: »

If a person works entirely alone at a workshop 20mins from their home, is this allowed? It's small scale manufacturering but not essential.

Probably not but it's not against the spirit or intentions of the guidelines if you're working alone.

scamalert · 31-03-2020 02:00PM

Miss OMMC wrote: »

If a person works entirely alone at a workshop 20mins from their home, is this allowed? It's small scale manufacturering but not essential.

do you need forums permission ? if it keeps you going and sane work away, makes no difference to anyone.

maestroamado · 31-03-2020 02:01PM

This is it wrote: »

Or because there's little testing or deaths attributed to C19 in those countries

Article in UK Independent...

Rob A. Bank · 31-03-2020 02:02PM

maestroamado · 31-03-2020 02:04PM

I saw Leo's face when he was sitting beside Trump. I definitely got a hint of disgust from his face when he was sitting beside Trump.[/QUOTE]

I thought it serious error of judgement for Leo to go to USA.
Having to close schools from White House?

Cork Boy 53 · 31-03-2020 02:04PM

Miss OMMC wrote: »

If a person works entirely alone at a workshop 20mins from their home, is this allowed? It's small scale manufacturering but not essential.

Technically no it isn`t.

Miss OMMC · 31-03-2020 02:04PM

scamalert wrote: »

do you need forums permission ? if it keeps you going and sane work away, makes no difference to anyone.

Just hearing about people being turned around and sent home by guards. I can't find any information about this type of work so thought I'd ask here. Will keep going until told otherwise I suppose.

AG123 · 31-03-2020 02:05PM

Do people think restrictions will be gradually lifted on a regional basis?

Mwengwe · 31-03-2020 02:05PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Lockdowns in Italy and Spain are starting to get to people - that 4 week limit, which has been mentioned in our own briefings.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/tempers-fray-as-coronavirus-lockdown-fatigue-hits-italy-and-spain-1.4216812

reading it and it seems to be more an issue with welfare payments

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