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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #2222
    Funsterdelux
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    My favoirite conspiracy, is a conspiracy of ravens.


  • #2223
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.

    It's worth every cent.


  • #2224
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    How long can these lockdowns and self isolation last . Stop the spread / Flatten the curve etc . There is no end game . Just prolonging everything .

    At what stage do they advise vulnerable people and over 70s to cocoon and the rest of society slowly gets back to a normalish way of living ?
    Well, we've had another 7-10 days advisory. If it comes down to a very small day on day increase by Easter we might see more positive noises on that front. 2-3 weeks at least to relax some of these, May for most and normality of sorts June/July is my guess.


  • #2225
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,053 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Why does everything discussed on the internet get dragged down to discussing conspiracy theories?

    Syphilis


  • #2226
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    How long can these lockdowns and self isolation last . Stop the spread / Flatten the curve etc . There is no end game . Just prolonging everything .

    At what stage do they advise vulnerable people and over 70s to cocoon and the rest of society slowly gets back to a normalish way of living ?

    No one knows, many factors many of them we dont know, its a new virus.

    If it follows the flu, and it peters out over the summer we might get back to a less restricted phase for a few months but we would need to prepare for the second wave in the 4th quarter of 2020 and shut things down again. Or until we get a vaccine for the most vunerable.


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  • #2227
    Achasanai
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    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    How long can these lockdowns and self isolation last . Stop the spread / Flatten the curve etc . There is no end game . Just prolonging everything .

    At what stage do they advise vulnerable people and over 70s to cocoon and the rest of society slowly gets back to a normalish way of living ?


    The idea is to prolong it, and we're only at the beginning stages. Over 70s and vulnerable people are going to suffer more but that doesn't mean the rest of us won't. We flatten the curve, with the aim being to ease the pressure on the health services. If the health service gets overwhelmed, we are all fúcked.


  • #2228
    john9876
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    I haven't read the full thread but is it correct to say that the death rate in Ireland is roughly half that of the UK?


  • #2229
    threeball
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    Mallory Dead Self-confidence wrote: »
    You might be happy enough to swap a Luas line for human lives but most people aren't so deranged thankfully.

    With all the people working from home we won't need a new luas line anyway.


  • #2230
    Hector Savage
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    Dissapointed with Spains numbers yesterday ... on the rise again :(


  • #2231
    sydthebeat
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    john9876 wrote: »
    I haven't read the full thread but is it correct to say that the death rate in Ireland is roughly half that of the UK?

    Correct

    UK are at about 21 per million
    Ireland is at 11 per million


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  • #2232
    is_that_so
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Disappointed with Spains numbers yesterday ... on the rise again :(
    But more slowly. Hopefully a week or so from peak and then it will begin to get better. :)


  • #2233
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Some positive news from Italy. Public health measures are proven to help. It takes time and it costs. We have to pay as the alternative would be chaos.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1244669990168678400?s=20


  • #2234
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.


    Not Nermal.


  • #2235
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,009 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Dissapointed with Spains numbers yesterday ... on the rise again :(

    Remember their lockdown is 5 days behind Italy, I think also the fact that Madrid had been hardest hit in Spain means it may end up being a lot worse there than in Italy. A lockdown should work, but may take a bit longer in Spain because of where the virus has been most prevalent.


  • #2236
    Hector Savage
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    But more slowly. Hopefully a week or so from peak and then it will begin to get better. :)

    For sure it's improving, I was just hopeful it would be even quicker...


  • #2237
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1244862476237377536?s=20


  • #2238
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Some positive news from Italy. Public health measures are proven to help. It takes time and it costs. We have to pay as the alternative would be chaos.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1244669990168678400?s=20

    Can you tell me anything about the background of these numbers?

    Are they testing as much? Are the suffering a shortage of test kits? Are they able to keep labs going?

    I'm sorry but Im not sure we can read anything into a dailly change like that at the moment.

    Yesterday's Italian death rate was still horrific but we wouldn't expect to see that fall for another week or two if steps taken are working.


  • #2239
    leavingirl
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Correct

    UK are at about 21 per million
    Ireland is at 11 per million

    Citation needed.


  • #2240
    Worztron
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    Hi. What's the number to text the WHO to get info on your phone? Thanks.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #2241
    [Deleted User]
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    bb12 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ireland-should-look-seriously-at-closing-borders-to-keep-new-infections-out-1.4215321


    ICU concerns
    Some 88 Covid-19-infected patients were in ICU on Saturday and there were 167 ICU beds still available, as the HSE scales up the number of critical care beds with life-saving ventilators.

    The media has been incorrectly reporting the cumulative ICU numbers as current since the beginning so I see no reason to take them figures as fact. Also they say 88 on Saturday while the official figures are 84 on Saturday. The only numbers that can be believed is those published on gov.ie and these are cumulative numbers with our most up to date figure being 84 people in total have needed ICU since the start of the outbreak up to Saturday evening.


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  • #2242
    [Deleted User]
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    leavingirl wrote: »
    Citation needed.

    Can we have a citation for your internet blackout claim


  • #2243
    Nermal
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    It's worth every cent.

    Our government routinely makes the choice that it is in fact not 'worth every cent' when approving drugs.

    Go ask these guys: http://www.ncpe.ie/ and they'll tell you that a year of healthy life is worth €20,000-€45,000.

    We had better be saving a lot of people a lot of years...


  • #2244
    sydthebeat
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    leavingirl wrote: »
    Citation needed.

    LoL

    the source is probably the most popular website in the universe right now.

    Look it up yourself.


  • #2245
    mikeoc85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭mikeoc85


    bb12 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ireland-should-look-seriously-at-closing-borders-to-keep-new-infections-out-1.4215321


    ICU concerns
    Some 88 Covid-19-infected patients were in ICU on Saturday and there were 167 ICU beds still available, as the HSE scales up the number of critical care beds with life-saving ventilators.

    If we only have 167 more ICU beds available then this government need to serve time in prison.

    That's criminal, and incredibly slow moving since they've know for weeks now they'd need hundreds more...get F*cking moving.


  • #2246
    wadacrack
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    https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1244566715251515395


  • #2247
    lawred2
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    mikeoc85 wrote: »
    If we only have 167 more ICU beds available then this government need to serve time in prison.

    That's criminal, and incredibly slow moving since they've know for weeks now they'd need hundreds more...get F*cking moving.

    Can you detail what you know is needed to put an ICU bed in place?


  • #2248
    Funsterdelux
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    Worztron wrote: »
    Hi. What's the number to text the WHO to get info on your phone? Thanks.

    +41 79 893 18 92

    Txt hi


  • #2249
    lawred2
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1244566715251515395

    Is there an antibody test available?

    It's easy to "plan" for that - but I didn't know there was such a test available.


  • #2250
    Talisman
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Didnt say they didnt btw. It remains restrictions on known hotspots would have helped limit clusters here.

    Amazing how some are so resistant to any possible proactive management. And that's why we here with this pandemic. Odd that the WHO were screaming so vehemently that Chinese flights not to be restricted then - all the while China completely locked its own hotspots down and is closing down flights from countries now infected. We will never learn apparently ...
    :D

    Wuhan was locked down on January 23. There was a mutation in the UK possibly before that date.


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  • #2251
    Logan Roy
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    caveat emptor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1244862476237377536?s=20

    They were effectively spitting all over each for 2 and a half hours :pac:

    It's not exactly proof that you can catch it off someone walking past them in the supermarket.


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