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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #2192
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    A study on how the virus goes about its work. Thought this part was interesting.

    The finding suggests that coronavirus particles that are inhaled through the nose or mouth have a high chance of attaching to cells in the upper respiratory tract, meaning that relatively few are needed for an infection to gain a foothold.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/new-study-sheds-light-on-coronavirus-infection-mechanism


  • #2193
    h2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭h2005


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Cognitive dissonance. Expect an internet blackout soon. The pandemic narrative being pushed by the Covid crew is leaking badly.

    Cognitive dissonance?? Who are the Covid crew and why in your considered opinion is this not a pandemic?


  • #2194
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Be right back wrote: »
    I would like to know where he gets his information from. No other media outlets appears to have it. I hope that it isn't true.
    It's there if you go rummaging but very many of us, including the media, have enough human dignity and respect not to poke around in people's private grief.


  • #2195
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Cognitive dissonance. Expect an internet blackout soon. The pandemic narrative being pushed by the Covid crew is leaking badly.
    Lining up a load of words in a line neither a sentence nor sense makes.


  • #2196
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    nocoverart wrote: »
    No, from having genetically sh1tty hands that can’t put up with my extra washing of said hands.

    Try sudocrem on the worst areas at night. It's the only thing that worked for me.


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  • #2197
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Cognitive dissonance. Expect an internet blackout soon. The pandemic narrative being pushed by the Covid crew is leaking badly.

    :D You have to laugh at the nonsense at times.

    What the heck are you on about? And which planet are you on?


  • #2198
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭threeball


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    :D You gave to laugh at the nonsense at times.

    What the heck are you on about? And which planet are you on?

    I'd say she was posting videos from outside the hospital the other night making claims about 5G.


  • #2199
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,487 ✭✭✭circadian


    I seen a website recently that had a map of Ireland and places that required or were drop spots for equipment donations. I'm up the walls with work at the minute so haven't had much luck in a quick search.

    If anyone knows what I'm on about could ye PM me a link?


  • #2200
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Be right back wrote: »
    I would like to know where he gets his information from. No other media outlets appears to have it. I hope that it isn't true.

    The same place most people get their facts from.

    Whatsapp.

    I mean, how the **** is he relevant? He's an event organiser, albeit a successful one. (Despite what I think of him and/or Web Summit, it is currently a success. If he hadn't thrown his toys out of the pram, I would still like to see the Summit in Ireland, not Lisbon.)

    It sounds like he's nearly jealous that the CoronaVirus has done what he wasn't able to, bring Dublin to a standstill.


  • #2201
    leahyl
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    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    Try sudocrem on the worst areas at night. It's the only thing that worked for me.

    Aqueous cream is good too - my hands are destroyed as well :(


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  • #2202
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    What time are they turning on the 5G?

    Want to bring in the dog.


  • #2203
    Sofiztikated
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    threeball wrote: »
    I'd say she was posting videos from outside the hospital the other night making claims about 5G.

    While using an iPhone.


  • #2204
    Funsterdelux
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    Gods Gift wrote: »
    What time are they turning on the 5G?

    Want to bring in the dog.

    Bill Gates is flying in to do the 5G big "Turn On" later at some stage


  • #2205
    [Deleted User]
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    STB. wrote: »
    That's exactly what it doesn't mean.

    It means that 84 people are currently in ICU.

    Yesterday there were 88 people with Covid19 in ICU.

    The numbers will go up if more people are admitted and down if people die or recover to allow them to recover outside a ICU unit, normally a high dependency unit. A combination of deaths and new admissions will result only in a number reported IN ICU at anyone time. This is a critical measurement stat for ICU capacity.

    Now let it go.

    The significance of the numbers being reported are to show the pressure our health system is under at X moment in time and to show when we are reaching capacity. Nothing else.

    You either don’t understand basic English and maths or you are trolling.

    The 84 figure reported yesterday was from Saturday night, the alleged 88 figure which has not been confirmed by the official team was on Sunday so that still rallies with it being the total cumulative number.

    In the previous post it’s very clear that it’s a total cumulative number as the total hospitalisation number is calculated as a percent of the total cases and the icu number given as the sunset of these they needed it. Please explain how you are explaining away this simple and clear calculation.


  • #2206
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    What time are they turning on the 5G?

    Want to bring in the dog.

    Just make sure you double up on the tinfoil hat. be grand.


  • #2207
    [Deleted User]
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    I watched that usual HSE conference and I don't believe we are getting all the facts at all. look at Tony playing with his wedding ring and count how many times the other doctor shifts his phone.. they're holding back on facts.
    I don't buy the way they tell us the vast Majority will have a cold , moderate flu or even no symptoms at all and then another healthy human being is wiped out and on the front pages of Daily mail and the likes, we're all human and it's not mutating to that degree. I notice every Tom hanks, edris elba and ryan turbidy, seem to get a stay at home for a few days I'm fine from skype dose and joe public is told this will kill you indiscriminately.
    Where's the encouraging news to promote mental health, like X have now recovered, etc..or is the idea, hey guys it's me Ryan, I'm doing my bit, you guys must follow the rules, No ten day wait for his receipt of and confirmation via test either. Could be cabin fever but some things are not adding up for me.
    The stammering and rowing back on kits and all that, is just not believable.


  • #2208
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    dougm1970 wrote: »
    this makeshift hospital in central park in new york, made up of tents...how strong are those ?..weatherproof-wise ..wind etc ?...how are they heated ?....if the ground is wet outside and gets muddy with all the foot traffic from staff, how do they keep inside of tents clean ?

    Mats, how do they keep Croke Park from turning into muck during a concert.

    The soil moisture def is probably not as high as here either.


  • #2209
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Curve is beginning to move in a positive direction, as per the headline on this morning's Irish Times.

    It all seems to be worth the effort!

    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.


  • #2210
    This is it
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    rusty cole wrote: »
    I watched that usual HSE conference and I don't believe we are getting all the facts at all. look at Tony playing with his wedding ring and count how many times the other doctor shifts his phone.. they're holding back on facts.
    I don't buy the way they tell us the vast Majority will have a cold , moderate flu or even no symptoms at all and then another healthy human being is wiped out and on the front pages of Daily mail and the likes, we're all human and it's not mutating to that degree. I notice every Tom hanks, edris elba and ryan turbidy, seem to get a stay at home for a few days I'm fine from skype dose and joe public is told this will kill you indiscriminately.
    Where's the encouraging news to promote mental health, like X have now recovered, etc..or is the idea, hey guys it's me Ryan, I'm doing my bit, you guys must follow the rules, No ten day wait for his receipt of and confirmation via test either. Could be cabin fever but some things are not adding up for me.
    The stammering and rowing back on kits and all that, is just not believable.

    Tell us, what do you believe is happening?


  • #2211
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I watched that usual HSE conference and I don't believe we are getting all the facts at all. look at Tony playing with his wedding ring and count how many times the other doctor shifts his phone.. they're holding back on facts.
    I don't buy the way they tell us the vast Majority will have a cold , moderate flu or even no symptoms at all and then another healthy human being is wiped out and on the front pages of Daily mail and the likes, we're all human and it's not mutating to that degree. I notice every Tom hanks, edris elba and ryan turbidy, seem to get a stay at home for a few days I'm fine from skype dose and joe public is told this will kill you indiscriminately.
    Where's the encouraging news to promote mental health, like X have now recovered, etc..or is the idea, hey guys it's me Ryan, I'm doing my bit, you guys must follow the rules, No ten day wait for his receipt of and confirmation via test either. Could be cabin fever but some things are not adding up for me.
    The stammering and rowing back on kits and all that, is just not believable.
    Apart from the need to vent and it's a healthy thing to do in these times, a lot of this information he "repeats" is freely available on the interweb from reputable sources, i.e. not the Daily Mail. I do think the issue of kits is a worldwide problem, not just ours.

    Here's a link to the virus mutation claim to start you off.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/scientists-say-the-coronavirus-is-not-mutating-quickly-and-might-respond-to-a-single-vaccine/ar-BB11EJmL?li=BBnb7Kz


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  • #2212
    caveat emptor
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    More info about wuhan deaths coming out. Evidence that death count wasn't accurate. Surprise.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1244864160434982917?s=20


  • #2213
    DOCARCH
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    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.

    Maybe Belarus have it right? Vodka and saunas. Time will tell.


  • #2214
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Why does everything discussed on the internet get dragged down to discussing conspiracy theories?


  • #2215
    careless sherpa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.

    And the cost of letting the health care system crash?


  • #2216
    Destiny Millions Shampoo
    Posts: 0 ✭ Destiny Millions Shampoo


    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.

    You might be happy enough to swap a Luas line for human lives but most people aren't so deranged thankfully.


  • #2217
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.

    Its not worth saving thousands of lifes?


  • #2218
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nermal wrote: »
    At €865M per week? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113004587

    Two new Luas lines a week? Two port tunnels?
    Another T2 or three new runways in Dublin airport a week?

    It's not worth it, not in the slightest.
    So you'd be happy with a "tolerable" death toll and so-called herd immunity because it's cheaper.
    That route has an economic cost as well in a huge number of lost days due to illness.


  • #2219
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Why does everything discussed on the internet get dragged down to discussing conspiracy theories?
    It's the internet and they are fun for most of us.


  • #2220
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    How long can these lockdowns and self isolation last . Stop the spread / Flatten the curve etc . There is no end game . Just prolonging everything .

    At what stage do they advise vulnerable people and over 70s to cocoon and the rest of society slowly gets back to a normalish way of living ?


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  • #2221
    bb12
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    Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »
    You either don’t understand basic English and maths or you are trolling.

    The 84 figure reported yesterday was from Saturday night, the alleged 88 figure which has not been confirmed by the official team was on Sunday so that still rallies with it being the total cumulative number.

    In the previous post it’s very clear that it’s a total cumulative number as the total hospitalisation number is calculated as a percent of the total cases and the icu number given as the sunset of these they needed it. Please explain how you are explaining away this simple and clear calculation.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ireland-should-look-seriously-at-closing-borders-to-keep-new-infections-out-1.4215321


    ICU concerns
    Some 88 Covid-19-infected patients were in ICU on Saturday and there were 167 ICU beds still available, as the HSE scales up the number of critical care beds with life-saving ventilators.


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