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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #1232
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    HSE fluctuating public pronouncements don't fill me with confidence. 3 weeks ago it was all we were low risk, low risk when we had single digit cases.

    2 weeks ago seriously high risk. 15,000 cases by the end of March.

    Now they are going to tell us we are somewhere in the middle, which will probably be correct. But they seem full of guess work and wildly fluctuating modelling.


  • #1233
    ShayNanigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    Can you watch the HSE briefing somewhere or do I just have to wait for the news at 9?


  • #1234
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    elperello wrote: »
    How do you explain the positive tests in all three cases?

    They all have Covid, so they tested positive.

    What are you insinuating, that there's something sinister going on?


  • #1235
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    ShayNanigan wrote: »
    Can you watch the HSE briefing somewhere or do I just have to wait for the news at 9?

    Rte news now.


  • #1236
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ShayNanigan wrote: »
    Can you watch the HSE briefing somewhere or do I just have to wait for the news at 9?
    RTE News Now, channel 521 on Sky


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  • #1237
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,093 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Up to 6 recoveries. A former hurler released from hospital

    https://punditarena.com/gaa/kennedymarisa760/dublin-carton-discharged-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0Ajrreh3KOM3blNV1MeqEouqtUrhhHkpqTuzvwCD8DOoYPRpg7ZJdH24Y


  • #1238
    marilynrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    New Home wrote: »
    You do realise that being old and being happy with dying from Covid doesn't stop you from infecting other people, right?

    Of course I realise that. I think those who want to cocoon should do so but others should be allowed to make their own choices.
    Can you imagine being 90 years old now and hearing talk of this lockdown that might last for months and months and how some of those people feel right now, that they lived their whole life and now might have to die after being isolated and not seeing their families for these last few months. They must be heartbroken. Some will want to try to go back to normality.
    New Home wrote: »
    And that irrespective of what people might want for themselves (be it for sticking to their running routine or meet their friends and relatives), if they catch it they will increase the burden on the health system

    Can you imagine being 90 years old now after living your whole life and after the initial lockdown is over and then easing measures are put in place to still be told you must stay in or else you'd be a 'burden to the health system'.
    Some elderly would happily say not to put them on a ventilator if they get it, just let them live their lives now.
    New Home wrote: »
    and cause untold grief to the people they care about and those who care about them?

    Yes it will cause grief, but to be honest what would break my heart more is knowing that my elderly relations want to go out but instead they're not allowed to leave the house and people aren't allowed to visit. Imagine how traumatised that will leave people when their loved ones pass. There is no easy way....so it's going to have to come down to personal choice.


  • #1239
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Be right back


    ShayNanigan wrote: »
    Can you watch the HSE briefing somewhere or do I just have to wait for the news at 9?

    Rte news now?


  • #1240
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    Covid-19 meets its match.


    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1244344119545208834?s=20

    OGC.aea3ed7f9f2dfcf3c3f35c3abd2cd100?pid=1.7&rurl=https%3a%2f%2fmedia.giphy.com%2fmedia%2f4yThR9seRfapO%2fgiphy.gif&ehk=ohbVTs9NoAqQgUX%2fBjYwOo2FM3U3JhvUGgfciLRWY5Y%3d


  • #1241
    Tootsie_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    ShayNanigan wrote: »
    Can you watch the HSE briefing somewhere or do I just have to wait for the news at 9?

    Rte news now , doesn't seem to have started yet


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  • #1242
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Be right back wrote: »
    Rte news now?

    It says its coming up


  • #1243
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    *uck sake rte news now is a cross between one big advert and a broken record player.


  • #1244
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    It says its coming up

    You can get it on the RTE Player, have in on myself waiting for it to start


  • #1245
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    Rte news now , doesn't seem to have started yet

    It's always like that. Old news reports then goes live to conference.


  • #1246
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    RTE News Now, channel 521 on Sky

    Not on yet!


  • #1247
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    HSE fluctuating public pronouncements don't fill me with confidence. 3 weeks ago it was all we were low risk, low risk when we had single digit cases.

    2 weeks ago seriously high risk. 15,000 cases by the end of March.

    Now they are going to tell us we are somewhere in the middle, which will probably be correct. But they seem full of guess work and wildly fluctuating modelling.

    They said it was a possibility, not an inevitability. They probably erred on the high side, in order to convince people of the absolute necessity to comply with the guidelines. If they had said "be grand, probably won't even be 5000 cases by the end of the month", which is what it will be, people might not have complied as much, and we could have had those 15000 cases. The way this thing works, exponentially, means that seemingly small adjustments can have big effects.


  • #1248
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,353 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    deise08 wrote: »
    Cuomo on sky now.
    He's brilliant.
    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I don’t know why the Democrats don’t put him forward as a presidential candidate. He’s the best communicator I have ever seen on the political stage.

    He may not be the hero everyone thinks he is...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7ehYduP4KU


    According to that pediatric nurse he would call Cuomo "the single most important person in terms of the drive to close down hospital beds in this state over the last 20 years."


  • #1249
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    was working with a lad last week who was wearing work gloves, he usually wouldn't, his phone rang in his pocket, took it out and answered it with gloves on, crooked the phone between his ear and shoulder and proceeded to take the gloves off in the improper way and pick up the phone. I asked him later if the gloves were for coronavirus and he replied they were. I mentioned that there was a proper way to take them off,he replied he was only wearing them to keep his wife happy.

    This chap is on a Marie Curie PhD funded research programme.


  • #1250
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    davedanon wrote: »
    They all have Covid, so they tested positive.

    What are you insinuating, that there's something sinister going on?

    Ryan, Claire and Ciara Kelly had a threesome.


  • #1251
    ShayNanigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    otnomart wrote: »
    They are probably prescribed anti-virals, while most ordinary people not hospitalised have to cope with paracetamol.

    Maybe blood plasma from patients who have recovered...? Just a thought. Seems weird they'd let Prince Charles go and meet people after just a week.


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  • #1252
    arse..biscuits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    spookwoman wrote: »
    *uck sake rte news now is a cross between one big advert and a broken record player.

    If I see the report of the boy playing football in his garden again I'll go to Lidl and lick the floor clean.


  • #1253
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Sky correspondent trying to get to Beijing and ended up in quarantine for 14 days in another city.

    Impressive border defenses against the virus !



  • #1254
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Pity they didn't interview the neighbour of the kid, i'd say they are probably demented listening to the ball banging off the fence. That fence is not going to last long


  • #1255
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Are we trusting the Russian figures? another country late to act and infection rates seem suspiciously low....


  • #1256
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Beasty wrote: »
    When they said "now", they didn't mean "now", them meant "then" (or 7pm in time language)

    Alas this prediction cannot be guaranteed, and indeed it won't be "now", may not be "then" as it could be "later"

    "Time" will tell


    ":pac:"
    ...but not yet - only one of those 3 options is still in the game though!


  • #1257
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    HSE fluctuating public pronouncements don't fill me with confidence. 3 weeks ago it was all we were low risk, low risk when we had single digit cases.

    2 weeks ago seriously high risk. 15,000 cases by the end of March.

    Now they are going to tell us we are somewhere in the middle, which will probably be correct. But they seem full of guess work and wildly fluctuating modelling.

    Because it is guess work with wildly fluctuating models at the end of the day, how could anyone be accurate about this?. The virus doesnt think for itself, people spread it, if people change their behaviour then the models will wildly change from what was predicted


  • #1258
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Heard Prince Charles is over it. Do you think they were given a small dose of a different strain. Seems a lot of important people getting it but not that ill.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1244630279362404352?s=20

    No, thats just what happens in the vast, vast majority of cases. You are hearing about it cos they have celebrity but the result is totally standard, most are fine.


  • #1259
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Big delay.


  • #1260
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    That's difficult to estimate in the case of RT PCR. The lab analysis has roughly 5 main steps 1) book in of samples. 2) RNA extraction 3) cDNA synthesis 4) RT-PCR 5) analysis and results reporting. These are discrete steps and can be split over different days. e.g samples from late afternoon may have RNA extracted and stored in a -80C for the following day's shift. Alternatively finished cDNA may be held in a -20C freezer until a machine is free to conduct RT-PCR. The labs are generally overlapping all of these steps to maximise output, for example while a machine is running an RT-PCR plate for one set of patients the scientist may begin making another batch of cDNA from a different cohort. I'm not involved in covid-19 testing but I imagine the scientists who are are busy enough processing samples and analysing results without devoting time to figuring estimating how many tests they can do in a day for someone on boards.ie.
    They will have supplied estimates to HSE prior to the lab testing being expanded.

    Daily reports will be submitted covering the various metrics of their processing activities.


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  • #1261
    MonkieSocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    spookwoman wrote: »
    It's already been said before, if in the early stages the test is done there is not always enough virus payload to register a positive.

    Got a Medical link for the above.

    How much of a virus payload is needed for a test to be Positive?

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



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