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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #1172
    voluntary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1244677784330473472

    I have a feeling America (both North and South) will be hit much harder by the virus than Europe.


  • #1173
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    take everything wrote: »
    Anyone know how many new cases today

    Briefing at 7pm according to Fergal Bowers.


  • #1174
    Red for Danger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Red for Danger


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    And that's only counting hospital settings.

    Outside hospitals is not included for some bizarre reason no one can understand.

    You're wrong again! they agreed last week to count all deaths from today on.


  • #1175
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    How do you mean? presumably if you're critical then you're in hospital, no?

    France is not including deaths outside hospitals in it's figures (like nursing homes, homes etc).

    I don't know why.

    There must be some practical reason for it.


  • #1176
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Una Mullally wrote an article today in the IT saying just that. That this is our opportunity to reconfigure society.
    The chance of that happening with the same old parties is virtually nil.
    I hope I'm wrong.


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  • #1177
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    France is not including deaths outside hospitals in it's figures (like nursing homes, homes etc).

    I don't know why.

    There must be some practical reason for it.

    Oh wow. That does seem odd.


  • #1178
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    marilynrr wrote: »
    No I think we go through this current lockdown to try to flatten the curve, ease up on restrictions slowly then and take our chances from there.

    You might rather a bit of short term pain for long term gain, but there are people out there in their 80s and 90s who might not have long left and might want to take their chances with the virus. There is no 'long term' for them. This is close to their end of life as it is. A very strict lockdown might prolong life, but at what cost to their quality of life? It should be individual choice. For the vulnerable who want to be cocooned then systems should be put in place for that. For those who don't, then they should be allowed to live their life as they wish.

    It is imprisoning the elderly, family members are not even allowed to go and see them through the windows anymore, they must be devastated.

    And absolutely there are elderly who have families who don't give a damn about them, and it's extremely sad and heartbreaking, that doesn't mean that it's ok to take the family visits away from the ones who do have that!

    My mother is in her 80's and I don't think she's ready to shuffle of this mortal coil just yet, she nearly died from pneumonia 5 years ago and is the one telling us and her grandchildren NOT to come into the house, she was getting really edgy this time last week and started calling the shots which I'm glad she did rather than being told, it's restrictive for her, (for her age she's pretty active), none of us like it but my family has two other much younger members who are high risk and have to be equally careful so it's all about doing the best we can to protect them.
    It's bitter medicine but better than the alternative in my eyes.


  • #1179
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    Cuomo on sky now.
    He's brilliant.


  • #1180
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Hermy wrote: »
    He should wash his hands before preparing food and send the gloves where they're needed most.

    I agree. I said to him that wearing gloves won't make a difference if you put your hands to your face. He agreed and thanked me.

    Can understand when he wears the gloves going shopping.


  • #1181
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Breaston Plants wrote: »
    No, he's living on the €350 a week dole.ðŸ˜

    He probably spends more than each day on coke


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  • #1182
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Red for Danger wrote: »
    You're wrong again! the agreed last week to count all deaths from today on.

    Have you got a link for this change?

    Sorry but I can't keep an eye on top of the minutia of reporting in every single country on the planet.:rolleyes:


  • #1183
    solidasarock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭solidasarock


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    He probably spends more than each day on coke

    Someone should tell him to cut down on the fizzy drinks. That stuff will wreck your teeth


  • #1184
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Another thing that no-one seems to have considered is the following. It's counter-intuitive, but I've heard it from several people who would be considered quite well, by society's standards, but who might tend towards depression, or be overly anxious about their lives, their jobs, their relationships. They report a reduction, sometimes a sharp reduction, in their level of stress and worry. It just doesn't seem to matter as much anymore. It's something that is common in wartime. Samuel Beckett once said that he never felt so alive as during the war, when he was undertaking extremely hazardous, not to mention heroic, work with the French Resistance.

    So, I wouldn't be worrying so much about people's mental health and how it fares during this crisis.


  • #1185
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,430 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Heard my dad downstairs cursing at the tv - asked him what was wrong, he said those people arrived back to Dublin airport from Peru and one of them ran straight up to their mum and threw their arms around her and gave her a kiss...Jesus Christ.


  • #1186
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    davedanon wrote: »
    It's funny. The people clamouring for the economy to be saved and people not be cooped up for weeks to the detriment of their mental health might well be characterised as 'of the right', politically. Yet their concern doesn't extend to prisoners. They want longer sentences for them, and fewer 'luxuries', like tellies etc. Stuff that helps mental health for those in confinement.

    Funny that.

    That is not comparable in the slightest.

    If you commit a crime you know the consequences


  • #1187
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    deise08 wrote: »
    Cuomo on sky now.
    He's brilliant.

    I don’t know why the Democrats don’t put him forward as a presidential candidate. He’s the best communicator I have ever seen on the political stage.


  • #1188
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,769 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    froog wrote: »
    22 nursing home outbreaks is appalling.

    They dont seem to have been taken seriously enough at the beginning. On March 6th Nursing Homes Ireland wanted a lockdown on all nursing homes but the Chief Medical Officer was against it
    Dr Holohan appealed again to organisations, schools and healthcare providers, not to act unilaterally by closing or restricting access to services following the decision of the Nursing Homes Ireland to implement visitor restrictions nationwide.

    Dr Holohan said 18 infections is a low number, and that the risk of infection in Ireland is still low.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0307/1120765-coronavirus/

    Nursing home staff seem to have no PPE and to make things worse now nursing homes are complaining that the HSE are trying to poach their staff


  • #1189
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    solidasarock wrote: »
    Someone should tell him to cut down on the fizzy drinks. That stuff will wreck your teeth

    I heard he uses a straw


  • #1190
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    And that's only counting hospital settings.

    Outside hospitals is not included for some bizarre reason no one can understand.
    Apparently not included in Irish figures either.


  • #1191
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    jos28 wrote: »
    Ryan Tubridy just tested positive. First Clare Byrne and now Tubridy, RTE need to get the cleaners in !


    I call bulls##t in all 3 cases.
    Egomaniacs.


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  • #1192
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    That is not comparable in the slightest.

    If you commit a crime you know the consequences

    Riiiiight. Of course it's not.


  • #1193
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Whestsidestory wrote: »
    Do we need to be informed on the Rte news that Tubridy has contacted the virus?

    I think it's important. Especially to make sure there wasn't one for everyone in the audience.


  • #1194
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Reports coming in that there was a contaminated batch of cocaine in the Donnybrook area, the dealer had covid and coughed into it


  • #1195
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Lavinia wrote: »
    suicides are not hard to quanitify, in ireland over 300 people die from suicide every year so it means more than 1 per day.. so statistically it would mean that about 90 people lost their life in ireland already this year alone..

    You know there’s 365 days in a year??


  • #1196
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    bekker wrote: »
    Apparently not included in Irish figures either.

    So, nursing home deaths will not be included either ?


  • #1197
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I always see articles popping up practically everyday like 'doctor in New york cures all patients with malaria drug' ' 5 people in singapore in critical condition make full recovery after doctor administers some cocktail of drugs' are these stories just bs or why are those methods not then disseminated and used worldwide?


  • #1198
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    washman3 wrote: »
    I call bulls##t in all 3 cases.
    Egomaniacs.

    Yeah, they're just all flat-out lying to make themselves feel more important. That's totally logical.


  • #1199
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Heard Prince Charles is over it. Do you think they were given a small dose of a different strain. Seems a lot of important people getting it but not that ill.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1244630279362404352?s=20


  • #1200
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I agree. I said to him that wearing gloves won't make a difference if you put your hands to your face. He agreed and thanked me.

    Can understand when he wears the gloves going shopping.

    was working with a lad last week who was wearing work gloves, he usually wouldn't, his phone rang in his pocket, took it out and answered it with gloves on, crooked the phone between his ear and shoulder and proceeded to take the gloves off in the improper way and pick up the phone. I asked him later if the gloves were for coronavirus and he replied they were. I mentioned that there was a proper way to take them off,he replied he was only wearing them to keep his wife happy.


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  • #1201
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I always see articles popping up practically everyday like 'doctor in New york cures all patients with malaria drug' ' 5 people in singapore in critical condition make full recovery after doctor administers some cocktail of drugs' are these stories just bs or why are those methods not then disseminated and used worldwide?

    Because those articles are all mostly nonsense, and disinformation is unhelpful. See: Donald Trump.


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