CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Cork Boy 53 · 30-03-2020 05:37PM

jos28 wrote: »

Ryan Tubridy just tested positive. First Clare Byrne and now Tubridy, RTE need to get the cleaners in !

I presume that Miriam will be getting another go as LLS host on Friday.

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 05:37PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

what are we gonna do? stay locked down for over a year until there is a vaccine?

Destroy our economy and have more people die from poverty than the virus would kill. Plus good luck keep the hospitals open if we close shop for a year.

The elderly and immunocompromised can cocoon as previously advised...

I read an article post here saying that most of the people who died of CoVid19 in the UK already had existing serious illnesses and would've dying from something else in the next year.

So, come June 1st, fcuk the elderly and immunocompromised.

devnull · 30-03-2020 05:38PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I hope so. I also hope it's the end of the two teir health system. I read that that was a condition of fine fail entering government. I really hope this opportunity is used to fix everything wrong with society. We are being paid to borrow money from the ECB so now is the time.

Remind me, who was it that created such system in the first place?

RugbyLad11 · 30-03-2020 05:38PM

davedanon wrote: »

i Being locked inside for months would do more damage to someones health than the virus probably would, especially a young healthy individual.

Is that your professional opinion, or just what you reckon?

We already have a suicide problem in Ireland, I imagine this is gonna increase a lot now that everyone is locked inside.

josip · 30-03-2020 05:38PM

jos28 wrote: »

Ryan Tubridy just tested positive. First Clare Byrne and now Tubridy, RTE need to get the cleaners in !

"Winston Wolfe to Aisle 7."

MrMusician18 · 30-03-2020 05:38PM

josip wrote: »

Hold on, hold on.
In the beginning we had 255 ICU beds.
Then they identified where we could double ICU bed capacity.
Then they said they were enlisting the private hospitals and that would increase their ICU capacity.
(At this point I assumed that the doubling plan they had first announced was the private hospital one)
But bringing private hospitals on board is only going to increase ICU capacity by 47 beds.
So is our total ICU capacity only 255 + 47 = 302 ?

They haven't been clear at all on the ICU bed numbers available and that needs to improve.

When they were talking about it previously I think they meant covid ICU, or rather pseudo ICU beds that could be set up with the specific equipment to support covid patients.

I haven't been one to criticise the response generally, but communication on beds and need numbers has been poor and sometimes contradictory.

SharpshooterTom · 30-03-2020 05:39PM

How do so many rich celebrities get testing?

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 05:39PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I hope so. I also hope it's the end of the two teir health system. I read that that was a condition of fine fail entering government. I really hope this opportunity is used to fix everything wrong with society. We are being paid to borrow money from the ECB so now is the time.

Una Mullally wrote an article today in the IT saying just that. That this is our opportunity to reconfigure society.

RugbyLad11 · 30-03-2020 05:39PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So, come June 1st, fcuk the elderly and immunocompromised.

Did you miss my point where I said the elderly and immunocompromised can cocoon as previously advised...

kilkenny31 · 30-03-2020 05:40PM

devnull wrote: »

Remind me, who was it that created such system in the first place?

Fine Fáil. I understand that. I'm not complimenting them on it. I'm just saying that it is in their plans.

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 05:41PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Did you miss my point where I said the elderly and immunocompromised can cocoon as previously advised...

No I didn't miss it. I see it as irrelevant if expert advice mandates lock down beyond June 1st.

bekker · 30-03-2020 05:41PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

It is hard to produce exact numbers on a daily basis because it is a continuous 24/7 service.

Some labs might get through 300 samples a day one day and 400 the next depending on staff levels, number of tests coming in, reagents available etc. It's not a fixed throughput, and more labs may be coming on stream or offering a limited service until all their staff are trained to run it.

That's why figures are always approximate at the time of release or publication. Its constantly changing as there are numerous conditions that can effect the daily number of tests that can be carried out.

You are also contribtuing to rumour and fear.

If you would like to find answers to your questions you can try contacting the Customer care officer at the NVRL Helen Dawkins at helen.dawkins@ucd.ie or on 01-716 1257

The number being sought is the number of tests the labs in aggregate can process daily.

The qualifications you are citing, apply to any processing operation distributed over separate locations.

The usual method of dealing with them is establish maximum practical throughput per location, then in aggregate the fluctuations between locations can usually be expected to balance out.

Any significant deviations in throughput normally indicate/reflect a system failure.

Absence of information and obfuscation is what leads to rumour and fear, not seeking information/clarification.

bilston · 30-03-2020 05:41PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Jesus.:( I thought the curve was supposed to be flattening there. Is there no end to this?

That's a dramatic improvement in terms of new cases.

It's about 4% now. Not only that but the actual.number of new cases is lower than it's been in 2 weeks. This is very significant. If this continues the pressure will start to ease up.on the hospital's in Italy which means more critically ill patients will survive.

The absolute horror of another 812 deaths is undeniably terrible, but in terms of the overall picture for Italy that nu.ber of new cases is the best statistic to come out of Italy in this crisis. The direction of travel is now clear.

devnull · 30-03-2020 05:41PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

They haven't been clear at all on the ICU bed numbers available and that needs to improve.

When they were talking about it previously I think they meant covid ICU, or rather pseudo ICU beds that could be set up with the specific equipment to support covid patients.

I haven't been one to criticise the response generally, but communication on beds and need numbers has been poor and sometimes contradictory.

I know someone working in the NHS in the UK who says that a few hospitals there now have two ICU areas, one for coronavirus and one for everything else with a total capacity greater than the existing previous units.

There was one hospital in particular where it involved cascading of quite a few departments, wards and equipment and repurposing in order to achieve this and was said to be logistically quite challenging.

The same might be happening here but it doesn't happen with a click of the fingers as many different types of patients and their needs need to be accounted for whilst also trying not to disrupt care to those who need it.

splinter65 · 30-03-2020 05:41PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I presume that Miriam will be getting another go as LLS host on Friday.

The virus took one look at Miriam and said “ ah I know when I’m out of my league”

cameramonkey · 30-03-2020 05:42PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Una Mullally wrote an article today in the IT saying just that. That this is our opportunity to reconfigure society.

We had a chance to reset the housing system in Ireland 10 years ago but vested interests didn't allow it. I fear the same now.

harr · 30-03-2020 05:42PM

It’s a pain in the hole , but I am sticking to because I am hoping the short term inconvenience will prevent it continuing long term.
I am full time carer and my child has underlying health issues which he has to stay indoors .. my wife has to work and is gone 13-15 hours a day , we can’t get out during the day and we are all going a little crazy. My wife takes the other kids out for a walk when she returns for work and I get out for 30 minutes when kids are in bed.
I miss the gym and I miss my weekend hobbies, if this going to be long term I know my mental health is going to suffer and trying to keep a special needs child entertained is tough enough but it makes the whole situation worse with no end in-site..

randy hickey · 30-03-2020 05:43PM

Jaysus, Irish people get in everywhere.

First we had Dr Michael Ryan on the daily WHO pressers, and now I hear an irish voice on the daily UK presser, and it's a Dr Yvonne Doyle, who is the Director of Health Protection with Public Health England!

ceadaoin. · 30-03-2020 05:43PM

marilynrr wrote: »

Completely agree. It can't go on that long and will cause so many problems.

There are spouses and children in abusive homes right now, locked in with their abusers. There's people who were probably on the verge of ending relationships and they're now stuck where they are. That must be mental torture.

Even for the people who are in non abusive households there is a big problem with mental health issues in this country, this will make those worse in some cases...there will be even mentally healthy people who develop mental health issues because of it.

We will without a doubt see suicides or murder suicides if this goes on long term.

.

2 domestic murders and a murder suicide in the UK in recent days.

A person on here was calling for the guards to use violence against people who go out to buy food. Some are actually hoping for martial law.

Police in the UK are harassing and shaming people who arent breaking the law, people are reporting their neighbours for going for walk, going mad about people buying chocolate ffs. There are talks of phone tracking etc. Loads are pretty much willingly signing up for a totalitarian regime, ****ing idiots. And it's been what, 2 weeks?

How is this in anyway sustainable in the long term?

shocksy · 30-03-2020 05:43PM

Ryan Tubridy has tested positive for Covid-19

Roger_007 · 30-03-2020 05:43PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I presume that Miriam will be getting another go as LLS host on Friday.

Does Tubridy not have shed?

woohoo!!! · 30-03-2020 05:44PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I presume that Miriam will be getting another go as LLS host on Friday.

To quote Fr. Jack. I'm so so sorry

jackboy · 30-03-2020 05:44PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Una Mullally wrote an article today in the IT saying just that. That this is our opportunity to reconfigure society.

Would that be an improvement? If we scrap private health systems then we would have to pump much more money into the public system. Quality would decrease also as the private hospitals would be dragged down to the level of the public system.

It might sound good to take something off those who can afford the private health system but would things really improve for anyone.

Professor Moriarty · 30-03-2020 05:44PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

We had a chance to reset the housing system in Ireland 10 years ago but vested interests didn't allow it. I fear the same now.

Probably right.

randy hickey · 30-03-2020 05:45PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Does Tubridy not have shed?

In fairness, a phonebox would do him.

kilkenny31 · 30-03-2020 05:45PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

We had a chance to reset the housing system in Ireland 10 years ago but vested interests didn't allow it. I fear the same now.

But the political parties know what people want. They've been told in an election not so long ago.

marilynrr · 30-03-2020 05:45PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So, come June 1st, fcuk the elderly and immunocompromised.

Have you read the posts or threads on here about people who have elderly parents who don't want to stay in?
A lot of them hate this and would rather just take their chances, and think that it would be far worse to be locked up in their homes not able to see anyone when they might not have many months or years left in their lives anyway.

People act like it's for their own good, but do the elderly or vulnerable not get a say in it? Are we not going to take into consideration what some elderly people actually want?

If this goes on until June/July then unfortunately some elderly people will die from other age related issues and for their last few months the option for their family to see them, for them to hold their great grandchildren or lots of little things that are important to them will be taken away from them! They might have been saved from covid-19 but it's a very sad end to their days.

30-03-2020 05:46PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

No I didn't miss it. I see it as irrelevant if expert advice mandates lock down beyond June 1st.

You can't seem to accept that the opinion Rugby Lad is expressing is a valid one and is shared by a large percentage of the population. All you want to do is shut it down with snide remarks like 'ah **** the elderly then, eh?'

Has the virus infected Tubs, or has Tubs infected the virus?

pjohnson · 30-03-2020 05:46PM

Christ the fact those obsessed with getting the economy back ASAP are now trying to play it as concern over increasing suicide rates is extremely distasteful.

Not to mention again look at fcuking Italy if you want to see an inreasing death rate and thats from this virus. Its clear to see reduced actions leads to a far bigger death rate. So they are actually advocting more deaths to try and "save" the economy and "prevent" suicide.

Amirani · 30-03-2020 05:46PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

They haven't been clear at all on the ICU bed numbers available and that needs to improve.

When they were talking about it previously I think they meant covid ICU, or rather pseudo ICU beds that could be set up with the specific equipment to support covid patients.

I haven't been one to criticise the response generally, but communication on beds and need numbers has been poor and sometimes contradictory.

The data is available and pretty solid. It's not something that the wider public needs much granular detail on though.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP