CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

caveat emptor · 30-03-2020 05:05PM

loveisdivine wrote: »

Has there been any talk yet of any kind of hazard pay for essential service workers?

I have. Hopefully government will do more for those most at risk.

2 weeks ago....

caveat emptor wrote: »

I was only thinking about this. I'm glad our government has taken action. WHO has been screaming at countries for weeks regarding preparedness. From the UK expert that was fielding the questions for Boris. (fair play to him for deferring to an expert by the way) it seemed as though they are expecting a curve with 6 weeks either side.(12 in total) They are saying people are going to die. They are tacitly stating the need to make that peak smaller/sharper. One way is to not flatten the curve but push the curve up. They believe that on balance carrying on as normal and practicing hand washing will prevent enough spread so that the disruption to the economy is less and the wave passes quicker.

I'm glad our government is not taking that approach. We should be looking after our most vulnerable. One explanation for the difference in approach is that we do not depend so much on our domestic economy. i.e a large portion of workforce can work from home. However those who can't work from home have been promoted essentially in society to keep the show running. Farmers / bakers / supermarket assistants / truck drivers should all be compensated for the risks they will undoubtedly have to take in the coming weeks. They should get danger money effectively (as soldiers do when deploying). The should be provided with PPE as a matter of urgency / necessity.

It goes with out saying that health care workers will be those most at risk. Please god they will be safe. After this is done they should be the ones who are most valued in society.

Frank Bullitt · 30-03-2020 05:06PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Now, now he is an "expert" in many, many fields. I'm guessing too he has no plans to return Web Summit here!

His "sources" tell him a lot.

Thingymebob · 30-03-2020 05:06PM

the government and HSE appear to have reserved CityWest Convention Centre until July for self isolation?

Bit cynical · 30-03-2020 05:07PM

Report on what life is like in Sweden

Dated 25/03/2020.

RugbyLad11 · 30-03-2020 05:08PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

More restrictions = civil unrest.

There's a reason they only said til 12th April. Because on the 9th, they'll extend it a further two weeks. Already preparing us for it.

Any announcement of lockdown for 3 months, which i assume is the plan, would be rightly met with outrage.

There is no way people will stick to the lockdown if it is still here in June/July...

People will be stir crazy and no way people will do in for months during the summer

davedanon · 30-03-2020 05:09PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

I have already stated the figures I know and have linked to them but here it is again.

The most recent official figure I can find is "To date, 17,992 tests have been carried out in laboratories across the country, as of midnight last night."

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e378fd-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-on-tuesday-/

So as of the 23 March just over 700 tests per day since the outbreak started in Ireland. Of course there must have been more since then but these are the only figures I can find.

If you can point me to more recent statements from the HSE please do.
As i said to a previous poster there is no need for vitriol.

I don't think you know what 'vitriol' means in this context. In any case, no-one has directed any at you.

Thelonious Monk · 30-03-2020 05:09PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

There is no way people will stick to the lockdown if it is still here in June/July...

People will be stir crazy and no way people will do in for months during the summer

If the summer is as bad as last year's it may keep us indoors anyway

Inquitus · 30-03-2020 05:10PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If the summer is as bad as last year's it may keep us indoors anyway

Sod's law says it will be a corking summer though!

is_that_so · 30-03-2020 05:10PM

Thingymebob wrote: »

the government and HSE appear to have reserved CityWest Convention Centre until July for self isolation?

Think they have a lease for the rest of the year, whether required or not.

gifted · 30-03-2020 05:11PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

There is no way people will stick to the lockdown if it is still here in June/July...

People will be stir crazy and no way people will do in for months during the summer

There's people either side of me who can't stick to the lock down now never mind june...ffs.

is_that_so · 30-03-2020 05:11PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

There is no way people will stick to the lockdown if it is still here in June/July...

People will be stir crazy and no way people will do in for months during the summer

No, I think they will have fingers crossed that they can reverse some things in April, early May at the latest.

Rattlehead_ie · 30-03-2020 05:12PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I have. Hopefully government will do more for those most at risk.

2 weeks ago....

Certainly the supermarkets have already started doing this themselves
Tesco announced it last week and Dunnes doing the same

Dunnes Pay Premium

Lavinia · 30-03-2020 05:12PM

Bit cynical wrote: »

Report on what life is like in Sweden

Dated 25/03/2020.

sweden didnt impose any measures yet as they want to see how it goes. even schools are open restaurants and everything else

tobefrank321 · 30-03-2020 05:12PM

Strazdas wrote: »

No, the Taoiseach says they have no intention of stopping flights. We need incoming doctors and nurses for example from all around the world as well as equipment and we need to be able to export medical equipment and medicines in order to generate revenue.

Don't forget we've no land border with the EU, making the banning of flights a near impossibility.

You can bring in doctors and nurses in a controlled way without going through commercial flights.

All these doctors and nurses also will have to isolate if they come from places like London or New York first otherwise you just spread it in hospitals.

Madness.

Ger Roe · 30-03-2020 05:12PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I’m sure that will come later, but how do you define an essential service worker?

For some, it's seems to be simply down to their employers self declaring their service/product as essential and then issuing a letter saying so to their employees.

I know of people now basically being forced to work in factories because they have been declared essential, regardless of their home situations - living with others who are higher risk and self isolating. They are going out every day and risking bringing the virus back to other people who have not left the house in two weeks. The companies concerned warn employees not to come to work if they develop symptoms, but they can go home every night until then and risk passing on an infection to their isolating co-inhabitants.

Why is there no consideration of a worker's home circumstances and why is the 'essential' list so broad? Was it deliberately so vague when first mooted that it gave employers a 24 hr period to lobby to be included on the list that was then published 24hrs after the announcement?

rossie1977 · 30-03-2020 05:13PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

There is no way people will stick to the lockdown if it is still here in June/July...

People will be stir crazy and no way people will do in for months during the summer

There is no lockdown in Ireland

Cork Boy 53 · 30-03-2020 05:13PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

There is no way people will stick to the lockdown if it is still here in June/July...

People will be stir crazy and no way people will do in for months during the summer

If the death toll skyrockets they will out of fear.

shocksy · 30-03-2020 05:13PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1244658689291796483?s=19

deise08 · 30-03-2020 05:13PM

Rattlehead_ie wrote: »

Certainly the supermarkets have already started doing this themselves
Tesco announced it last week and Dunnes doing the same

Dunnes Pay Premium

Tesco might have said it, but no sign yet. I'm sure it will be back dated when it comes.

Whehey! · 30-03-2020 05:15PM

I'm a little confused..
Can the same house hold go for a short walk together but obvs keep their distance from anyone or is it only one person per household that can go for a walk once a day at a time?

Mwengwe · 30-03-2020 05:17PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

I'd argue you're more likely to get COVID-19 while hmming and hawwing over yer bottle of plonk in Dunnes than in an airplane or airport.

Statistics at the moment in Ireland would back that up,

El Weirdo · 30-03-2020 05:17PM

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244368048821321735

Says the guy who couldn't organise wifi at a web summit.

CitizenFloor · 30-03-2020 05:17PM

antodeco wrote: »

The fear I have is that we will end up being cyclical again. Numbers are down. Not as bad. Slowly back to work. 4 months time, back to where we started again

I believe that is the objective. If we can get to four months, without a massive peak that is a success.

Then life and the virus ramp up, then we increase lock down measures and the virus decreases.

Rince and repeat until a vaccine is created/enough people are immune.

Cork Boy 53 · 30-03-2020 05:18PM

shocksy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1244658689291796483?s=19

Jesus.:( I thought the curve was supposed to be flattening there. Is there no end to this?

RugbyLad11 · 30-03-2020 05:18PM

gifted wrote: »

There's people either side of me who can't stick to the lock down now never mind june...ffs.

That is what I mean, right now I would say 98% of the population are sticking to the lockdown. But if it's still here in June I would say less than 10% of the population would be sticking to it

DOCARCH · 30-03-2020 05:18PM

Confirmed cases in Italy down nearly 1,200 today (compared to yesterday).

Hopefully a chink of light rather than a weekend blip?

joe40 · 30-03-2020 05:19PM

Rattlehead_ie wrote: »

Certainly the supermarkets have already started doing this themselves
Tesco announced it last week and Dunnes doing the same

Dunnes Pay Premium

I don't understand that approach. It is easy to take in restrictions and the relax them if not needed. But allowing numbers to grow quickly and possibly overwhelm health service can get out of control very quickly. Just look at the experience in other countries. Even the UK backed down fry this approach..
Then again maybe social distancing is the norm in sweden..

josip · 30-03-2020 05:19PM

Whehey! wrote: »

I'm a little confused..
Can the same house hold go for a short walk together but obvs keep their distance from anyone or is it only one person per household that can go for a walk nce a day at a time?

You can each go for individual walks including socially distant children.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0327/1126911-ireland-restrictions-covid19/

RugbyLad11 · 30-03-2020 05:19PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

There is no lockdown in Ireland

We are as close to a lockdown as we can go, pretty much only essential services are operating and people can only leave there home for food/exercise.

What else could be done?

devnull · 30-03-2020 05:20PM

Government have now reached agreement with private hospitals

From RTE

The Taoiseach has said that the Government has made a Public-Private partnership agreement in light of the spread of Covid-19, which will see private hospitals being treated as public hospitals for the duration of the agreement.

Private hospitals, the Taoiseach said, have 1,000 rooms for solo occupancy, which are ideal for those who need to be isolated.

They can provide 194 ventilators as well as the use of nine laboratories.

He said there are 19 private hospitals being used in this partnership. This includes 11,000 inpatient beds, 2,300 day beds, 47 ICU beds and 54 high dependency unit beds.

Minister for Health Simon Harris said the partnership will represent a 17% increase in capacity for the Irish health service.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP