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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #8822
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    What, Why Suspended?

    There is an inevitable point where testing is overwhelmed , we should not have reached that because of our low numbers but there are other factors.


  • #8823
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,426 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Portuguese schoolboy , 14 , with no underlying conditions , dies from covid19

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

    The suspicion would be with these young people sadly dying that they have undiagnosed medical problems and were not as healthy as they appeared.


  • #8824
    john_doe.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    silverharp wrote: »
    i'd say ignore all these stories, generally somewhere embedded it will mention that an autopsy has yet to be performed.

    Why ignore , the disease causes respiratory issues . It can't be said for certain but it's very likely that was the cause.


  • #8825
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,012 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    MD1990 wrote: »
    it is a bit worrying that the lockdown is Europe has seen no decline in cases & deaths in any country so far.

    Have my doubts it will work as well in Europe as in China. They were more meticulous with theirs

    It takes time for a lockdown to work.

    And for the record there has absolutely been a decline in the percentage of new cases in both Italy and Spain.


  • #8826
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Dr.Fauci thinks ultimately the US will end up somewhere between 100,000-200,000 deaths when this is all said and done, presumably over the next two years.

    The US has 5 times the population of the UK so their projections of at least 20,000 looks in the same ballpark.

    I would consider those numbers on the low side.
    I apologise for my pessimism, I have felt that way from the start.


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  • #8827
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Why you going to hospital?

    With breathing difficulties


  • #8828
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Dr.Fauci thinks ultimately the US will end up somewhere between 100,000-200,000 deaths when this is all said and done, presumably over the next two years.

    The US has 5 times the population of the UK so their projections of at least 20,000 looks in the same ballpark.
    And I was extrapolating that for Ireland earlier this morning ..... approximately 1,540 deaths in Ireland?


  • #8829
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    UK release full testing numbers so far.
    https://twitter.com/fergalbowers/status/1244253460025036801?s=21

    Very similar rate of positives to Ireland then. About 15% or so. Most continental nations seem to be averaging 20-25% positve rate, it seems the virus is simply not as widespread in Ireland and UK as mainland Europe


  • #8830
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Strazdas wrote: »
    The suspicion would be with these young people sadly dying that they have undiagnosed medical problems and were not as healthy as they appeared.

    I would imagine so, yes.


  • #8831
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    MD1990 wrote: »
    it is a bit worrying that the lockdown is Europe has seen no decline in cases & deaths in any country so far.

    Have my doubts it will work as well in Europe as in China. They were more meticulous with theirs
    bilston wrote: »
    It takes time for a lockdown to work.

    And for the record there has absolutely been a decline in the percentage of new cases in both Italy and Spain.

    I think you’re both right in a way. Lockdowns in Europe are having an effect to slow the spread of the virus (without the lockdown Italy would have way more deaths), but the effect is not as visible as in China as European lockdowns are not as strict (plus in China everyone going out of their home has been wearing masks).


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  • #8832
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Very similar rate of positives to Ireland then. About 15% or so. Most continental nations seem to be averaging 20-25% positve rate, it seems the virus is simply not as widespread in Ireland and UK as mainland Europe


    A far lower % of the population tested though (were we not on about 3.7 per thousand a while back). This would put them on 2 in every thousand tested.


  • #8833
    Marsden35
    Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Strazdas wrote: »
    The suspicion would be with these young people sadly dying that they have undiagnosed medical problems and were not as healthy as they appeared.

    Some perfectly healthy people's immune systems go into overdrive when fighting a virus and end up causing major complications.

    There will always be statistical anomalies. This mostly affects older people but will kill perfectly healthy people too.

    And conversely that 101 year old Italian who had Covid-19, survived.


  • #8834
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    With breathing difficulties

    Have you called ahead and been advised to come in? I've been having breathing difficulties for 12 days and wouldn't go near a doctor/hospital for fear of infecting a hcp or someone potentially vulnerable. If you haven't already, start with a telephone check up with an out of hours doctor or if it's extremely bad an emergency operator.


  • #8835
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    190 new deaths in England.

    I wonder how many in London?

    It has been only recently we have seen big cases in large cities such as London, New York, Madrid.

    Bergamo in Italy was a fairly small city. These larger cities have a different type of public transport. Very worrying. Given the time lag.

    Sorry again for my pessimism.


  • #8836
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://twitter.com/RCarrollTV/status/1244256898737754112?s=19

    Flight due in around 10 mins


  • #8837
    woohoo!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    Flight is going past Drogheda now


  • #8838
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    bilston wrote: »
    It takes time for a lockdown to work.

    And for the record there has absolutely been a decline in the percentage of new cases in both Italy and Spain.

    Does anyone have a regional breakdown for Italy and Spain? Now and for say two weeks ago.

    It's my understanding that the number of new cases in lombardy and Madrid have fallen significantly while the numbers in other regions have increased significantly.

    In both countries when the lockdown came into effect in the worst regions first we saw millions travel home to their families in midly effected regions spreading the disease.


  • #8839
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    UK release full testing numbers so far.
    https://twitter.com/fergalbowers/status/1244253460025036801?s=21


    127 700 total is still far off the Italian number of nearly 430 000 total as per yesterday.
    Italy has kept the testing effort, yesterday alone: 35 400 tests
    https://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/coronavirus/#box_6


  • #8840
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Portuguese schoolboy , 14 , with no underlying conditions , dies from covid19

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

    the 21 year old woman that was meant to have died of Coronavirus in England, it seemed it the virus wasn't the cause,
    ‘Middleton was taken to Wexham Park hospital in Slough last weekend after she had a heart attack. Attempts to resuscitate her failed and she was pronounced dead soon after arriving… A Berkshire coroner said the death was related to Covid-19 after being told Middleton had a cough, the source said. But this surprised medics at the hospital, who have not recorded it as a coronavirus incident.’

    An NHS source tells the Guardian that ‘the coroner’s move “raised eyebrows” at the hospital because [Middleton] had not tested positive for the disease’.
    but then that article was removed from the Guardian website pending review, so...


  • #8841
    recyclebin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Plane spotters still out in force by the looks of it!


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  • #8842
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    Some perfectly healthy people's immune systems go into overdrive when fighting a virus and end up causing major complications.

    There will always be statistical anomalies. This mostly affects older people but will kill perfectly healthy people too.

    And conversely that 101 year old Italian who had Covid-19, survived.
    Important to remember.


  • #8843
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    MD1990 wrote: »
    it is a bit worrying that the lockdown is Europe has seen no decline in cases & deaths in any country so far.

    Have my doubts it will work as well in Europe as in China. They were more meticulous with theirs

    It may not be decreasing but it is plateauing in many countries, and that was the goal. A sudden drop was never expected, it is a flattening of a curve, not stopping cases dead in their tracks


  • #8844
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    HSE predicting a peak in mid April, would the peak likely last for weeks?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0329/1127114-hse-briefing-covid/


  • #8845
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    iguana wrote: »
    And we're supposed to do that forever? Testing is extremely, extremely important when it comes to being able to reduce restrictions. We need to have an accurate idea about who has recovered and what kind of immunity they have in order to be able to make accurate predictions about when it's safe to reduce which restrictions. We're in damage limitation mode right now. And the longer and stricter a damage limitation period, the more damage we do to other sectors of society. Without proper data, we do other damage and people will get sick and die because of that too.

    There is a reason that 'knowledge is power' is such a truism. We can't properly fight this virus without knowledge. And we are sorely lacking so, so much of it right now.

    People need to be patient. It’s still very early days. Just because people want the restrictions lifted ASAP doesn’t mean it’s going to be possible. There are still many unknowns and it will take a while to make breakthroughs and make sense of the considerable data being generated. Research is laborious. This could go on for months and months and people need to adjust to the idea of that.


  • #8846
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    Dr.Fauci thinks ultimately the US will end up somewhere between 100,000-200,000 deaths when this is all said and done, presumably over the next two years.

    The US has 5 times the population of the UK so their projections of at least 20,000 looks in the same ballpark.

    So somewhere around 2x as deadly as flu.


  • #8847
    flashforward
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭flashforward


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    When you say "doing"

    Did they say taking 5000 swabs a day or processing 5000 swabs a day

    They are taking 5000 swabs a day.
    They sidestep or avoid questions regarding how many of these are been converted to results.

    One conference mentioned capacity to convert 1350 tests a day. Another poster said he had seen 700 swabs converted go results per day.

    I cant understand how everyone is not focusing on this key topic. The number of swabs taken per day does not matter a sh1te unless we are converting them to results.
    Of course we are going to sit on ~300/ day until this changes


  • #8848
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    is your ability to handle the virus related to your lung capacity or immune response or both?


  • #8849
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Shn99 wrote: »
    HSE predicting a peak in mid April, would the peak likely last for weeks?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0329/1127114-hse-briefing-covid/

    Yeah, hardly anybody in Italy is going outside, and yet still there are thousands of new cases and hundreds of deaths daily. Its been (3 weeks?) since Italy locked down and looks like itll be at least another week or two until cases drop to a manageable level


  • #8850
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I would consider those numbers on the low side.
    I apologise for my pessimism, I have felt that way from the start.
    The British government would take you hand off for 20000 Died


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  • #8851
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Are there any estimates of the percentage of the population that have an immune system that will prevent them from getting covid-19? I am lucky in that I never get the flu. Does this mean that I am less likely to get covid-19?
    In the public information booklet issued by the HSE, it states that covid-19 may survive on surfaces if someone who has it coughs or sneezes on it. I thought that you could get the virus if you just touched a surface that had been touched by someone with the virus.?
    In another part of the booklet, it states that sneezing is not a symptom for covid-19?


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