CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

29-03-2020 06:25AM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

How you getting on now Ads? If I remember correctly your in China?

I'm in Vietnam. Haven't worked in nine weeks, and we've just started our big lockdown now. Boredom is definitely not an issue though as I've been flat out coding for my side-business.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 29-03-2020 06:30AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you even had a Kleenex taped over your mouth, it would help stop someone with it spread it less. "Utterly useless" my hole.

Ah the expert is here. Yeah you see a lot of doctors going around with Kleenex taped to their mouths.

I’d rather not wear a mask than to have the likes of a dust mask or damp mask from wearing it all day, I’m not an expert like you but I’m willing to hazard a guess that’s not good for you.

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 06:35AM

Deleted User wrote: »

10% have died. It remains to be seen what the final figure will be, but I suspect that like the cured vs. dead figures, it won't be 50%.

Just to be crystal clear on facts here the death rate is almost 50%

That is a fact. It would not be stated in an official report if that was not the case.

It is not mentioned in the report what stage the remaining patients are at but doctors are very concerned about issues surrounding the death rate and whether these people should be kept alive for as long as they are being kept "alive" through ventilators. There are moral and other issues surrounding that.

We face are a very serious crisis and I don't see a way out at the moment. Even if you look at the Italian disaster - there is just a lid on that. Can't take the lid off. Now the country faces serious social disorder and others are going to follow.

The most important thing is that this is managed as well as possible but also that China is nailed to the wall for what has happened.

And they will be. This will never be allowed to happen again.

The Guardian is The Observer btw.

MipMap · 29-03-2020 06:36AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Ah the expert is here. Yeah you see a lot of doctors going around with Kleenex taped to their mouths.

I’d rather not wear a mask than to have the likes of a dust mask or damp mask from wearing it all day, I’m not an expert like you but I’m willing to hazard a guess that’s not good for you.

Surely the issue is not how effective it is in protecting you.
Ask the questions:
Can it Harm You?
Can it Harm Others Around You?

If the answer to either question is No why are people so apposed to it?

29-03-2020 06:39AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Ah the expert is here. Yeah you see a lot of doctors going around with Kleenex taped to their mouths.

I’d rather not wear a mask than to have the likes of a dust mask or damp mask from wearing it all day, I’m not an expert like you but I’m willing to hazard a guess that’s not good for you.

I never claimed to be an expert. But I do trust the governments of countries that are used to masks and have enough of them more than the government of a country that isn't used to them and doesn't have enough of them.

Believe what you want anyways. If you think masks or my extreme example of a Kleenex don't stop droplets exiting your mouth, while also talking about masks getting damp, there's not much I can do to convince you otherwise.

Happy4all · 29-03-2020 06:44AM

MipMap wrote: »

Surely the issue is not how effective it is in protecting you.
Ask the questions:
Can it Harm You?
Can it Harm Others Around You?

If the answer to either question is No why are people so apposed to it?

What I see are people wearing them and gloves when shopping and then discarding them in carparks. Might that be harmful to others?

MipMap · 29-03-2020 06:46AM

Happy4all wrote: »

What I see are people wearing them and gloves when shopping and then discarding them in carparks. Might that be harmful to others?

Jeez how do you even try to respond to crap like this?

Happy4all · 29-03-2020 06:53AM

MipMap wrote: »

Jeez how do you even try to respond to crap like this?

Maybe get some sleep, you seem a bit wound up.

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 06:56AM

South Korea reports 105 new cases and 8 new deaths.

Singapore 70 new cases and 1 death. Only it's 3rd death.

29-03-2020 06:59AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Just to be crystal clear on facts here the death rate is almost 50%

That is a fact. It would not be stated in an official report if that was not the case.

Just to be crystal clear, the death rate at the moment, with 79% of ICU cases unresolved, is almost 50%.

No one is disputing the facts of the report. I am however disputing the incorrect take away that it 50% of people in ICU with Covid-19 die. If the true death rate of patients in ICU is 25%, the death rate will trend towards that. If the true death rate is 50%, it will stay where it is. The initial figures will always be scary since it takes less time to die from it than to recover, meaning the initial ratio is artificially high.

I can't find information on what the true rate might be. I certainly hope it's not 50%.

snoopboggybog · 29-03-2020 07:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just to be crystal clear, the death rate at the moment, with 90% of ICU cases unresolved, is almost 50%.

No one is disputing the facts of the report. I am however disputing the incorrect take away that it 50% of people in ICU with Covid-19 die. If the true death rate of patients in ICU is 25%, the death rate will trend towards that. If the true death rate is 50%, it will stay where it is.

I can't find information on what the true rate might be. I certainly hope it's not 50%.

Jesus. Thats crazy if its true.

lawred2 · 29-03-2020 07:06AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

If that was obama......It's a good video in fairness. Glad I'm not in New York though.

It's a video of guns and flags. Propaganda nonsense. If North Korea was putting out videos like that while a virus was getting out of control there, they'd be laughed at.

jj880 · 29-03-2020 07:07AM

I have seen people arrive at a house in an estate at 5.30am. Basically known heavy drinkers arriving at another drinkers house. Maybe a total of 5 people in the house. Still there.

Id imagine this will be a problem all over the country - the types that go to a bar on saturday night, drink on at the house after last orders then back to the bar as soon as it opens in the morning.

ILoveYourVibes · 29-03-2020 07:07AM

Italy is getting worse

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0327/1126819-covid-19-italys-death-toll-reaches-8-215/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51777049

Away With The Fairies · 29-03-2020 07:09AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Because masks are expensive. Masks also need to be changed a few times a day. Most of the masks you see people wearing out and about are utterly useless. I’ve even seen dust masks. I’ve seen people wear the same mask day after day. Pissing in the wind.

Oh and while I’m at it, while the rest of the world was busy shipping in PROPER masks our fücktards in Dáil Éireann were shipping in Italians and thick cûnts that pissed off to Cheltenham for a week.

Saw a fella who had a mask on his head, like wearing sunglasses. No doubt he wanted to reuse the mask but that's pointless if someone coughed behind you and the virus is now on your head and his mask sat on his head.

ILoveYourVibes · 29-03-2020 07:09AM

Lets face it though America is going to infect us all over and over if they don't get a handle on it. If they let it take over ..

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 07:16AM

jj880 wrote: »

I have seen people arrive at a house in an estate at 5.30am. Basically known heavy drinkers arriving at another drinkers house. Maybe a total of 5 people in the house. Still there.

Id imagine this will be a problem all over the country - the types that go to a bar on saturday night, drink on at the house after last orders then back to the bar as soon as it opens in the morning.

Call the guards

snoopboggybog · 29-03-2020 07:16AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Lets face it though America is going to infect us all over and over if they don't get a handle on it. If they let it take over ..

The thing with americans they all want to return to work and just keep the elderly isolated. If their health insurance lapses their ****ed.

Could be hit with an enormous bill of 100K if they do end up having to go to hospital.

otnomart · 29-03-2020 07:18AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I saw somewhere, (can’t remember where), that a study of the first 2500 deaths in Italy showed that the leading ‘underlying condition’ of those who died was heart disease, followed by diabetes.

latest report here
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_26_marzo_eng.pdf
Characteristics of COVID-19 patients dying in Italy
Report based on available data on March 26th, 2020
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/sars-cov-2-decessi-italia

MipMap · 29-03-2020 07:19AM

humberklog wrote: »

Hey, don't like you're tone "read it again".

I won't see your next post.

humberklog
If I can convince one person to wear a mask and stay alive

Then I don't care whether you or any one else associated with this site
agrees or disagrees with me.

You got That ?

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 07:19AM

Trump just said Johnson rang him asking for ventilators (before Trump could say a word according to Trump)

Lucy8080 · 29-03-2020 07:21AM

s1ippy wrote: »

Great time to have this thought, 3:30am

What happens to all the nuclear reactors if there's nobody around to look after them?

Actually, all the trees in the forest will fall. That sound may or may not be heard. I've researched this. I have even been to a lecture with the acknowledged world authority on this subject.

He got a resounding round of applause from the audience. They all clapped with one one hand. All those that weren't there found it to be an extremely moving occasion.

Del Griffith · 29-03-2020 07:22AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The most important thing is that this is managed as well as possible but also that China is nailed to the wall for what has happened.

And they will be. This will never be allowed to happen again.
.

That's the most important thing? :rolleyes:

Btw, current Corona fatalities (including any cause of death at all in 90+ year olds where someone happened to have Covid-19 when they died) = 30k.

Swine Flu fatalities = between 150k and 500k. Started in the good ole USA.

Lay off the Trump propaganda.

otnomart · 29-03-2020 07:26AM

beolight wrote: »

Bumping this can anybody with 3D printer replicate this maybe Doctors could use their network to converse with the Italians

All info for 3D printers are online:

otnomart wrote: »

"This new part was named Charlotte valve.
The patent will remain free to use because it is in our intention that all hospitals in need could use it if necessary,”

https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/isinnova-shares-3d-printed-adapter-to-turn-snorkeling-mask-into-a-non-invasive-ventilator/

BluePlanet · 29-03-2020 07:27AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Italy is getting worse

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0327/1126819-covid-19-italys-death-toll-reaches-8-215/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51777049

Death toll lags New Daily Infections.
After we see new infections go down for maybe for a week of consecutive days, then expect to see the Death toll to follow.

Kermit.de.frog · 29-03-2020 07:36AM

BluePlanet wrote: »

Death toll lags New Daily Infections.
After we see new infections go down for maybe for a week of consecutive days, then expect to see the Death toll to follow.

Sun ain't rising any time soon i'm afraid. Things globally are going to get a lot worse.

I'd be hoping we could start lifting restrictions a little globally by July.

I'm not not sure the population understands the gravity of what has happened and the consequences that are coming.

Rob A. Bank · 29-03-2020 07:37AM

Aer Lingus are on the way back from China, carrying badly needed PPE for our health workers.

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9019/244a4bcd

"One group of doctors say they have procured €6,000 worth of PPE themselves after losing patience with the HSE’s efforts to supply the equipment."

amber2 · 29-03-2020 07:43AM

Kermit think you are right, don’t think we can comprehend the gravity or enormity what could be to come.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1261631/coronavirus-europe-social-unrest-riots-covid19-red-cross-warning

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italy-becoming-impatient-with-lockdown-and-social-unrest-is-brewing-11965122

Gynoid · 29-03-2020 07:50AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163761/Chinese-markets-selling-bats.html

I have never read an article about these meat markets. As a vegetarian for 35 years my eyes have always glazed over at those kinds of things and avoided them, eg PETA videos, slaughter videos from vegans or whatever, because I have never been or felt political about not eating meat, it was always just a personal choice and if people don't feel that way, then my attitude has been, "so what".
But fcuk me pictures of cats and dogs in cages waiting to be sold, killed and eaten! It is truly grotesque. A pretty model nibbling a bat! Nausea-inducing. The very idea of all this is utterly grotesque and savage.

Apparently these vile markets are back up and running. Ugh. I will have to resume normal function of choosing not to look at these kinds of images lest I devolve into a crazy misanthrope!

snoopboggybog · 29-03-2020 07:55AM

Gynoid wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163761/Chinese-markets-selling-bats.html

I have never read an article about these meat markets. As a vegetarian for 35 years my eyes have always glazed over at those kinds of things and avoided them, eg PETA videos, slaughter videos from vegans or whatever, because I have never been or felt political about not eating meat, it was always just a personal choice and if people don't feel that way, then my attitude has been, "so what".
But fcuk me pictures of cats and dogs in cages waiting to be sold, killed and eaten! It is truly grotesque. A pretty model nibbling a bat! Nausea-inducing. The very idea of all this is utterly grotesque and savage.

Apparently these vile markets are back up and running. Ugh. I will have to resume normal function of choosing not to look at these kinds of images lest I devolve into a crazy misanthrope!

Cages piled on top of each other.

Absolutely disgusting, bats ****ting and pissing on dogs, dogs in turn ****ting and pissing on cats, cats ****ting and pissing on ferrets, ferretts ****ting and pissing on racoons etc etc.

**** sake and its still going on, no wonder disease is widespread.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03