CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

RurtBeynolds · 28-03-2020 06:23PM

I can hear kids playing outside :rolleyes:

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 06:23PM

paul71 wrote: »

Which is about half as slow as Italy and Spain experienced at the same stage.

Yeah, a positive of sorts for those of us looking on but little comfort for people affected by it and for families of those who have passed away.

Corkgirl20 · 28-03-2020 06:24PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Because the virus doesn't kill people instantly, it takes a few weeks

I would also think because the virus got into nursing homes with old people with underlying conditions I’d imagine they would fall ill very quickly.
Some may rather pass away as opposed to take interventions and struggle through and possibly be in pain.

Fakediamond · 28-03-2020 06:24PM

45,000 new cases diagnosed worldwide since I looked at the tracking app this morning around 10.00 a.m. that’s terrifying....

virusncov.com

walshb · 28-03-2020 06:24PM

RurtBeynolds wrote: »

I can hear kids playing outside :rolleyes:

The new naughty step!!

RugbyLad11 · 28-03-2020 06:24PM

theballz wrote: »

“RugbyLad”...... say no more

What is your point? Everyone was talking about the UK but they called the lockdown well before us

Stheno · 28-03-2020 06:24PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

In irish hospitals, I know we have ICU but do we also have high dependency wards ? Or any type of ward that is a step down from ICU.

Yes we have both

An Ciarraioch · 28-03-2020 06:25PM

smelly sock wrote: »

14 more dead. Wow.

Scary stuff.

Ffs should we have locked down earlier?

Given most of the deaths appear to have been in nursing homes, what difference would it have made?

splinter65 · 28-03-2020 06:25PM

smallfryy wrote: »

So what happens? They're not helped breathe? Do we not even try save them? I can't even imagine any doctor that wouldn't try surely?

*edit* just to add I wasnt aware it was so bad in a nursing home. How very sad, poor things.

In Italy they put the very elderly on ventilators for 12 and more days and there they lay suffering and they all died in the end, alone without any comfort.

Un1corn · 28-03-2020 06:25PM

Manach wrote: »

Historically speaking no. There have been cycles of development were China as in sync with Europe and other times it lagged behind. However it is the Chinese people's ill luck that in this era to have a friable authoritarian government with a veneer of one of the most ill-starred ideologies communism. To believe that mainline China has this virus under control or is acting honestly within this current crisis is not creditable.

Nail, hammer, head.

28-03-2020 06:25PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

What extra businesses etc are actually closing as of today. It seems like hardly any.

Places like woodies were open yesterday, their closed from last night.

The one in Navan was full enough last week when a friend was out fixing some of their I.T. hardware. Mainly folks 50+ buying gardening stuff.

Our local builders providers are closed except for plumbing supplies etc and even then you can't rock up, you have to order by phone/email

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 06:25PM

smelly sock wrote: »

14 more dead. Wow.

Scary stuff.

Ffs should we have locked down earlier?

The median age of the new deaths suggests it's probably one or more nursing homes.

Just Saying · 28-03-2020 06:25PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

You might have heard 71 somewhere but the official release said 59 as of midnight wednesday.

The official ICU figure is from midnight the day before and was 59 at midnight Wed night which was released in Fridays figures.Todays figure of 67 is at midnight Thursday night.

However the CMO used a figure of 71 at his press conference last night.He obviously is privy to a more up to date figure than that used in the official release.

This would indicate that 4 more ICU admissions had occurred from the figure of 67 at midnight Thursday to the time the CMO got an updated figure of 71 yesterday.

28-03-2020 06:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1243964331622117376?s=19

For anyone asking about ICU figures. They are the number since the start

They are going to look at how they present the ICU stats going forward to avoid confusion. The numbers currently in ICU need to be highlighted. Pointless giving the number admitted since the start. Means nothing.

Inquitus · 28-03-2020 06:26PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Germany are doing community testing like we are.

Spain Italy Belgium Netherlands and the UK are only testing people in the hospitals. Their numbers in terms of cases are a lot more accurate than many other countries.

I do know that there is bookkeeping differences but I don't know if that's universal. It's definitely happened that people have with covid 19 have died of pneumonia or heart attacks or something else and not been included in the statistics.

I know of 6 cases I've read about in the German media but it could be universal.

There have been suggestions in German media that a major killer is secondary infections from pneumonia is a major killer and that the incidence of the pneumonia vaccine in Germany is higher than the rest of Europe.

The vaccine only works against bacterial pneumonia, not viral pneumonia, and certainly not COVID-19 related pneumonia.

28-03-2020 06:26PM

RurtBeynolds wrote: »

I can hear kids playing outside :rolleyes:

Have you tried turning up the TV?

FVP3 · 28-03-2020 06:27PM

wakka12 wrote: »

It is the only logical explanation why Germany is experiencing such a small number of total deaths compared to other European countries. Most countries bordering Germany arre the hardest hit in Europe, there is no reason why the effects would be so much less across Germany

Fair enough if it was simply a much smaller proprtional death rate there, that could be exmplained easily by the amount of testing they are doing. But no, it is the total number of deaths, which is just so much smaller than the rest of Europe, it is unexplainable. Germany has the 2nd oldest population in europe and the third oldest in the world

It is totally made up bollocks which reverberates around this thread like an echo chamber.

When I asked for a link, the link debunked the claim.

As for why Germany is experiencing lower death rates there are many explanations: because it hasn't been overwhelmed yet, because it spread amongst younger people. And so on.

Deaths are increasing there, however.

smelly sock · 28-03-2020 06:27PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Given most of the deaths appear to have been in nursing homes, what difference would it have made?

It may not have gotten into the nursing home.

IAMAMORON · 28-03-2020 06:28PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Getting away from them now. Predictable given our one step behind the virus policies over the last month.

Your grammar is atrocious. You could have said

" Getting away from us now. Predictable given our one step behind the virus policies over the last month. "

or

"Getting away from them now. Predictable given their one step etc etc"

I respect that you have been hell bent on stirring up shight on this forum. But at least get it right.

Whose side are you actually on. Ours or theirs? Simple question.

RIP to all victims.

28-03-2020 06:28PM

RurtBeynolds wrote: »

I can hear kids playing outside :rolleyes:

Are they in their own garden?

Monitor1985 · 28-03-2020 06:29PM

294 was the number of confirmed cases as of 1.p.m today, do they have a set time each day that they cut off counting? Or does that time change daily?

ihdxwz4a3pem9j · 28-03-2020 06:29PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

In irish hospitals, I know we have ICU but do we also have high dependency wards ? Or any type of ward that is a step down from ICU.

Critical care beds encompass both ICU and HDU beds. In ordinary times, HDU patients would be patients on infusions to maintain a stable blood pressure, high-flow oxygen, BiPAP/CPAP (Machines that helps to push in oxygen and to remove carbon dioxide respectively with each patient breath), and to monitor general patients and post-operative patients who require close monitoring due to risk of deterioration. ICU will include patients who require some form of organ support, such as a ventilator, dialysis machine, or very high-doses of medicine to maintain blood pressure. (Obviously, this is not a fully comprehensive list). In these times, the capabilities of the HDU has increased, depending on the hospital, and may be able to ventilate and provide dialysis.

Reckless Abandonment · 28-03-2020 06:29PM

Very sad to here of so many deaths. New cases are stable enough which I a positive.

is_that_so · 28-03-2020 06:29PM

smelly sock wrote: »

It may not have gotten into the nursing home.

They did express concern about nursing homes so it probably had.

An Ciarraioch · 28-03-2020 06:30PM

smelly sock wrote: »

It may not have gotten into the nursing home.

The sad truth is that they were most likely to have been infected by a member of staff.

skimpydoo · 28-03-2020 06:30PM

Are off licences closed?

darced · 28-03-2020 06:30PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Nursing home staff should be working in hazmat suits. If one staff member had covid19 it could be fatal to a large number of patients.

That's just not possible. Its a home not a hospital.

boardise · 28-03-2020 06:31PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Which New York is going to pay for.

Just send the tab to Wall St.

josip · 28-03-2020 06:31PM

67 admitted to ICU gives me considerable hope.
Based on the trend from the previous 7 days, the least worst - worst case scenario predicted 73 -93 for today's announcement of the Thursday midnight figures.
To come in under that 73 is promising.

The 3 day moving average for ICU admission increases is now showing less variability than earlier in the week and the last 3 values are 24%, 18% and 20%
I've recalculated the least worst - worst case scenarios.
The least worst case now has us crossing 250 ICU admissions on April 3rd (previously 1st) and 500 on April 7th (previously 4th)

We've bought ourselves a few more valuable days by our adherence to the previous round of restrictions.

podgeandrodge · 28-03-2020 06:31PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Are off licences closed?

no.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03