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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    No sensible reason for NCTs to be proceeding. This proves Leo's dishonesty and incompetence.

    Well motor repair shops are deemed "non essential"
    so if it's essential to have your car tested but not essential to get it fixed
    then it's a "put you off the road" policy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    No sensible reason for NCTs to be proceeding. This proves Leo's dishonesty and incompetence.

    Well I would assume the argument is that it keeps dangerous vehicles off the road and as a result of so doing that reduces the number of car crashes, which reduces the pressure on the HSE, emergency services and the Gardai.

    I'm not saying that I'd necessarily agree entirely with keeping it open, but there is a certain logic.

    Things like tyre changes and so on are also still possible.

    I would imagine the NCT is rather low risk anyway, given that it is carried out in a very socially distanced way normally anyway, as long as people don't congregate in waiting rooms.

    There needs to be some joined up thinking on car maintenance ASAP though as we're hugely dependent on cars in this crisis. They're effectively a bubble of biosecurity to get people around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    No sensible reason for NCTs to be proceeding. This proves Leo's dishonesty and incompetence.

    Well it really is an essential service. Still need anything that is on the road to be road worthy. Plus if your nct is up then it's illegal to drive the car, yet it might be the only way people can get to the shops, essential work etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    People think that masks are infallible. There is a very specific way to put them on, and to take them off. For example, one should break the ties from behind to remove it, and to never touch the front part. Masks should not encourage people to take reckless risks, that they would not take without


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Forest Avenue open for business again today for their up your own arse posh farmers market. Queue around the corner, absolutely disgraceful.

    You'd think people could forgo their purple carrots for the sake of others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭boardise


    magma69 wrote: »
    Suck it up ffs. The measure are in place to save lives, if that means having a bit of anxiety due to being cooped up then so be it.

    When did we turn into such a pack of pussies? Dozens of millions went out to die in wars not too long ago in emergencies and we're being asked to just stay at home for a few weeks. Put on your big boy/girl pants now and do your bit.

    'When did we turn into such a pack of pussies?'

    My answer to that plaintive question is -when the PC ideology came to town
    and became entrenched in the education system It is embedded in University faculties -especially Sociology and Education. They indoctrinate the teachers who pass it on to primary and secondary pupils ...(like a virus ,if you will). Pupils are told that they can't fail at anything ,everything is dumbed down, if you cut your finger you probably need counselling etc.
    Believe me ,I've seen it up close as I spent my career as a lecturer and I've seen how iniquitous it is in its cumulative effects .
    We're stuck with it for the foreseeable future although there are signs that there is some kickback against its worst excesses.

    P.S.A nice recent example was the decision to award a blanket 100% to LC students in their oral exams -there doesn't seem to be a limit to the lunacies of PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Well motor repair shops are deemed "non essential"
    so if it's essential to have your car tested but not essential to get it fixed
    then it's a "put you off the road" policy

    Motor repair is available on emergency basis so you could get it fixed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    On the road safety issue, I would argue that right now that a message needs to go out very heavily on dangerous driving / risky driving / excessive speed etc.

    It's totally unfair to add to stresses on the health services right now and there are certain risky driving behaviours that could be stopped.

    We've empty roads at the moment and if you are driving for whatever reason, maybe take it easy and enjoy them for a change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    England - 926
    Scotland - 40
    Wales - 38
    Northern Ireland - 15


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    boardise wrote: »
    'When did we turn into such a pack of pussies?'

    My answer to that plaintive question is -when the PC ideology came to town
    and became entrenched in the education system It is embedded in University faculties -especially Sociology and Education. They indoctrinate the teachers who pass it on to primary and secondary pupils ...(like a virus ,if you will). Pupils are told that they can't fail at anything ,everything is dumbed down, if you cut your finger you probably need counselling etc.
    Believe me ,I've seen it up close as I spent my career as a lecturer and I've seen how iniquitous it is in its cumulative effects .
    We're stuck with it for the foreseeable future although there are signs that there is some kickback against its worst excesses.

    P.S.A nice recent example was the decision to award a blanket 100% to LC students in their oral exams -there doesn't seem to be a limit to the lunacies of PC.

    Who gives a fvck about exams right now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭keroseneboy


    lobbylad wrote: »
    Aer Lingus EI 9018, Dublin to Beijing, just left on its first run for medical supplies

    https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb
    The same aircraft was used to ferry disaster relief supplies to Haiti back in 2010..EI-EAV “St. Ronán”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Motor repair is available on emergency basis so you could get it fixed

    Is that for roadside breakdowns though?

    NCT failures aren't often emergencies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Are there any Garda checkpoints? Quite a few reports of them around the city

    Aye I got stopped in Swords this morning and asked the reason for my drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    Aer Lingus flight to Beijing to collect supplies is now approaching the Ural Mountains and about to enter Asia.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb


    not wanting to be the purveyor of bad news but this didnt go to well for the Czech or the Spanish.
    https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/china-delivered-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic-120032800056_1.html


    hopefully they work but these stories are typical of the cheap chinese tat we see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    O'Connell Street and the bridge on a Saturday afternoon.....almost spooky to see it so empty

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1243919488027963392


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    The same aircraft was used to ferry disaster relief supplies to Haiti back in 2010..EI-EAV “St. Ronán”

    Surely ferry is a bad choice of words there. :-) :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    People think that masks are infallible. There is a very specific way to put them on, and to take them off. For example, one should break the ties from behind to remove it, and to never touch the front part. Masks should not encourage people to take reckless risks, that they would not take without

    I would guess the main advantage of general use would be to stop people who are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic from spreading it through droplet spread rather than to prevent you from inhaling it.

    The countries that use them tend to have been ones that experienced SARS. That's why they became a thing there a few years ago. That and it was quite common to wear them in China due to air pollution issues too. So, culturally they were not that big a deal.

    I think though the logic that it won't protect you from picking it up, unless you're using a very high filtration mask, and even then you need to avoid touching your face etc. is correct. However, simple masks may well reduce the cough/sneeze and spray issues to some degree. They're certainly not a magic shield though.

    When supply ramps up, I would assume they will be common here too for a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    For the person asking about check pints out side the city,
    I brought my eight year old special needs for his daily buggy ride, there was a check point Wich for anyone else is in the middle of nowhere in regards to civilisation ,a know rat run of a road for drink driving also would have been use during the foot and mouth outbreak for transportation of horses.
    They were stopping all traffic that came along.
    Asked me where I lived and we're happy to let me on my way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Forest Avenue open for business again today for their up your own arse posh farmers market. Queue around the corner, absolutely disgraceful.

    You'd think people could forgo their purple carrots for the sake of others.

    Places that sell food are allowed to open. They should have social distancing measures though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    boardise wrote: »
    'When did we turn into such a pack of pussies?'

    My answer to that plaintive question is -when the PC ideology came to town
    and became entrenched in the education system It is embedded in University faculties -especially Sociology and Education. They indoctrinate the teachers who pass it on to primary and secondary pupils ...(like a virus ,if you will). Pupils are told that they can't fail at anything ,everything is dumbed down, if you cut your finger you probably need counselling etc.
    Believe me ,I've seen it up close as I spent my career as a lecturer and I've seen how iniquitous it is in its cumulative effects .
    We're stuck with it for the foreseeable future although there are signs that there is some kickback against its worst excesses.

    P.S.A nice recent example was the decision to award a blanket 100% to LC students in their oral exams -there doesn't seem to be a limit to the lunacies of PC.

    That was a government decision, (all adults)nothing to do with the students. How was it PC lunacy?

    Al this ****e about PC gone mad is nonsense. Ivan Yates is constantly banging the same drum, and a few weeks ago all he was worried about was if Cheltenham would be cancelled. But yeah the young people are snowflakes..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Is that for roadside breakdowns though?

    NCT failures aren't often emergencies

    Nope local garage near me has a number you ring and they'll come out and look at your issue. Still means you dont leave the house.

    Now they cant do major work, but anything that's a quick fix can be done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    otnomart wrote: »
    A few days ago, the Irish Gov co-signed a letter to European Council calling for "coronabonds", together with other 8 Countries including France, Belgium and Luxembourg.
    However, the Netherlands together with Germany are the most fiercely opposed to this.
    Germany will likely change position, but the Dutch Gov is digging its heels.


    https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/nine-member-states-ask-for-eurobonds-to-face-coronavirus-crisis/

    https://www.ft.com/content/258308f6-...f-41bea055720b
    https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2020/...e-coronabonds/


    Five more Countries join Ireland, France... in calling for coronabonds: the three Baltics, Slovakia and Cyprus.
    It is a total of 14 Countries now pushing for this.
    On the other side: Netherlands, Austria and Germany.
    Surely Germany can change their position in the face of this crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    loughside wrote: »
    not wanting to be the purveyor of bad news but this didnt go to well for the Czech or the Spanish.
    https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/china-delivered-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic-120032800056_1.html


    hopefully they work but these stories are typical of the cheap chinese tat we see.
    I don't think we are getting any quick tests. From what they have been saying they'll stick with what they are using for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Looks like some old fella arrested on O'Connell St, taken away in a van (street cam)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,062 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    statesaver wrote: »

    Are they recommending marijuana instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,566 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    walshb wrote: »
    Are the over 70s included with the rest of us as regards the 2 k radius, unless they need to shop?

    Or are over 70s advised you be cocooned completely?

    Can anyone answer this, please?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cnocbui wrote: »

    That's like taking methanol poisoning in bootleg alcohol and using it to describe the effects of alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    walshb wrote: »
    Can anyone answer this, please?

    They are advised to cocoon for their health they can choose not to. if they choose to they are subject to same 2km bar shopping as everyone else, just more susceptible to covid19 if they come in contact with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,420 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue




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