CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

khalessi wrote: »

It has to with suppliers who supply the suppliers who supply the manufacturers and so on. Also they want to do it properly lest anyone bitch about it, perish the thought, and that they only have necessary people making journeys

True. But at the same time you can question the usefulness of making an announcement that only essential businesses can stay open while not being able to clarify what essential businesses are. It does create confusion.

And to be fair, other European countries have been in similar situations for weeks and have thought about these things before us, so we can look at their lists of essential businesses and rely on their experience to expedite the process of drafting the list here.

When I go to the food shop I wash my clothes and shopping bags as soon as I get back.

Wombatman wrote: »

What? Are people who don't have to go out actually changing their clothes?

One genuinely concerning aspect is how many health workers are testing positive. One has died so far.

This is particularly concerning because it looks like this virus evolves rapidly. That can be both a good and bad thing by the way. However, people who end up in hospital, very sick, are more likely to have a nastier strain, while those who are asymptomatic or with mild symptoms are more likely to have a weaker strain.

Of course people with underlying conditions and are older are more likely to get ill anyway.

But if nastier strains are ending up in our hospitals, but our health care workers are being exposed and infected by these strains, that could create a pressure that would facilitate worse strains getting evolutionary preference.

The 'Spanish flu' of 1918 was encouraged to develop in such a direction, as soldiers who had only mild symptoms were kept at the front, while those who were very sick were sent home (which in effect seems to have had a large hand in spreading the virus).

I'm not suggesting that very ill people with Covid-19 don't go to hospital, but perhaps we should be trying to absolutely ensure that these people don't spread it within the healthcare service.

Four passengers have now died of coronavirus on a cruise ship off the coast of Panama. Two other passengers have also tested positive. There are 1800 passengers on the ship.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52072703

walshb wrote: »

Have any specific details been released on the healthcare worker that died?

Not yet but the papers will get them eventually

walshb wrote: »

Have any specific details been released on the healthcare worker that died?

If you've watched Holohan over these last few weeks you'd know the answer is No! Other sources might.

CptMackey wrote: »

I imagine they knew this was a distinct possibility a few weeks ago. So a list of what to close and what to stay open should have been sorted . This gets people to stay at home and keeps their boss off their backs. And leave people know should they apply for the social.
The 2 week term is nonsense as well. This is going to be months of this

If people had voluntarily followed the recommended measures already in place, they wouldn't have needed any of this.

And like, there's a limited supply of man hours in the civil service. They have had a lot of important things to do in the last few weeks. This list is only one of many important tasks.

RandomName2 wrote: »

One genuinely concerning aspect is how many health workers are testing positive. One has died so far.

This is particularly concerning because it looks like this virus evolves rapidly. That can be both a good and bad thing by the way. However, people who end up in hospital, very sick, are more likely to have a nastier strain, while those who are asymptomatic or with mild symptoms are more likely to have a weaker strain.

Of course people with underlying conditions and are older are more likely to get ill anyway.

But if nastier strains are ending up in our hospitals, but our health care workers are being exposed and infected by these strains, that could create a pressure that would facilitate worse strains getting evolutionary preference.

The 'Spanish flu' of 1918 was encouraged to develop in such a direction, as soldiers who had only mild symptoms were kept at the front, while those who were very sick were sent home (which in effect seems to have had a large hand in spreading the virus).

I'm not suggesting that very ill people with Covid-19 don't go to hospital, but perhaps we should be trying to absolutely ensure that these people don't spread it within the healthcare service.

Some of the healthcare workers got it from travel according to another poster. The bigger issue is PPE equipment as what is normally used isnt suited to purpose here. A consultant from Limerick was saying on news during week that staff were buying plastic visor masks from woodies to help with prevention. We do have a shipment coming in from CHina of ppe.

Exhaustion will also play a huge part.

lobbylad wrote: »

Aer Lingus EI 9018, Dublin to Beijing, just left on its first run for medical supplies

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb

Good luck Ireland

Yeah Ireland are getting the ones the Spanish no longer want ........
Coronavirus: Spain stops using Chinese test kits after its found they have a 30 per cent accuracy.

The research found nose swabs developed by Shenzhen Bioeasy Biotechnology had an accuracy rate of less than 30 per cent.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-spain-stops-using-chinese-test-kits-after-its-found-they-have-a-30-per-cent-accuracy/news-story/c87b6929a0447d9d00a14b0938735c68