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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    It will be 600,000k in the UK alone imo. Remember 80% show little or no symptoms.
    It will be interesting to see how that new test works out for them in the next week or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/we-are-with-you-every-step-of-the-way-39083166.html

    The media are disappointing in this country. There is something slimy about this. The NYT made all there Coronavirus news free once it because seriously.

    The Irish Independant "we are with you" also the Irish Independant " you should consider a digital subscription".

    They need to be called out on this. The amount of important stories that I've seen shared that I couldn't view because I was hit by a paywall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Ms2011


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Dffgsdf wrote: »
    Sorry, is it not about reducing the number of people coming within infection distance of strangers in the community? If you go out alone rather than with your spouse, you’re reducing it by 50%. I don’t understand all the “I can share a bed with my wife but can’t go for a walk with her” outraged comments because I took a different understanding from the restriction.

    Its not so much you "took a different understanding" and more that you actually understood it. Baffling the number of people who don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    https://youtu.be/jPujb8dJX3U

    The situation in Madrid , from a Doctor. With English subtitles.

    Medical staff being forced to play God in order to save younger lives.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/we-are-with-you-every-step-of-the-way-39083166.html

    The media are disappointing in this country. There is something slimy about this. The NYT made all there Coronavirus news free once it because seriously.

    The Irish Independant "we are with you" also the Irish Independant " you should consider a digital subscription".

    They need to be called out on this. The amount of important stories that I've seen shared that I couldn't view because I was hit by a paywall.

    Agreed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭doxy79


    Lockdown started midnight and still no list? A good deal of ppl actually work weekends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    statesaver wrote: »
    Has anyone in the media asked Dr. Tony Holohan why so many health care professionals are getting infected ?
    It's highly contagious? Is it not obvious?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    champchamp wrote: »
    Wheres the f*cking list of essential workers?

    Be careful what you wish for!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    khalessi wrote: »
    Agreed

    Thank you. Like to publish a letter from the editor to the people of Ireland and include a suggestion so subscribe to a digital subscription just shows that was the only purpose of publishing the letter in the first place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    khalessi wrote: »
    Agreed

    I went onto the Irish Times site this morning and they seem to have removed their paywall. Can anyone else confirm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Passed a local halting site this morning and there was certainly no social distancing going on. A group of about 10 teenagers hanging around with a horse. Hot me wondering if places like this could be hard hit by the virus..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,523 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/we-are-with-you-every-step-of-the-way-39083166.html

    The media are disappointing in this country. There is something slimy about this. The NYT made all there Coronavirus news free once it because seriously.

    The Irish Independant "we are with you" also the Irish Independant " you should consider a digital subscription".

    They need to be called out on this. The amount of important stories that I've seen shared that I couldn't view because I was hit by a paywall.

    I was thinking the same. I thought they were going to offer a free months subscription or something. Slimy ****s.
    Although the new site is awful and it’s just a trash mag now really so no loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    doxy79 wrote: »
    Lockdown started midnight and still no list? A good deal of ppl actually work weekends.

    Perhaps they should have waited until Monday for the lockdown while they figured out which businesses are essential and which aren't despite receiving advice to stop eejits from congregating on mountains? They're doing the best they can in a bad situation and are trying their best to follow the advice of the people who have the best idea of to handle the whole thing. Imagine the confusion and sh!t show had they rushed out a poorly thought and incomplete list last night.

    They also advised that non-retail businesses who planned to be open to make a call themselves as to whether their work is essential or not. People are always free to use their own common sense in the small window of half a day to a day before the full list will be published.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    doxy79 wrote: »
    Lockdown started midnight and still no list? A good deal of ppl actually work weekends.

    Go to work. If it turns out your job isn't on the list when it's published, go home.

    You are not gonna be shot on sight, ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    It's highly contagious? Is it not obvious?

    I’ve come to realise over the last 12 hours, that what’s obvious or common sense - a lot of people just don’t have it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/we-are-with-you-every-step-of-the-way-39083166.html

    The media are disappointing in this country. There is something slimy about this. The NYT made all there Coronavirus news free once it because seriously.

    The Irish Independant "we are with you" also the Irish Independant " you should consider a digital subscription".

    They need to be called out on this. The amount of important stories that I've seen shared that I couldn't view because I was hit by a paywall.
    They are screwed financially because of this - they are asking for support to stay afloat. Don't know where they are supposed to get the money from for free news. NYT is incomparable. Plenty of free media still here. The indo isn't the whole media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    Panic buying has started, seen video of queues metres long outside Dunnes, Clondalkin. None of them 2 metres apart.
    The reaction is not surprising as people adjust. Like the first panic run it'll settle down after a few days once we get used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    I went onto the Irish Times site this morning and they seem to have removed their paywall. Can anyone else confirm?

    Still there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭Genghis


    It's fairly easy to risk assess your activities and make choices.

    I have only left my home in the last 2 weeks for two reasons, groceries for the family and exercise (walk/run with dog). Incidentally, with the exception of a long run last weekend, I would have been fully compliant with the new restrictions).

    Risk factors to consider:

    A. How many people you are likely to meet during each activity
    B. How likely any person you meet is currently infectious
    C. The risk of you being close enough to a person or surface to be infected

    On A., I am in a year plus routine of 3-4 nightly walk / runs. I always go at night (10.00 to midnight), it's rural and in the last year I have passed one solitary person while out.
    I remember, it freaked me out ;) (let's say on 150 outings I met one person, 1-in-150 chance).

    When I go to the supermarket I also like to avoid busy-ness esp. now, but it's likely still I will meet probably 6 people between the car park, queuing, in the aisles and staff.

    On B., Let's be conservative and say 50,000 people in Ireland are currently infectious. That's 1-in-150 people.

    On C. While outside I am on roads and can easily avoid people. There is a risk, I suppose, (if that one person and I meet again) that I could bump into him while looking at my phone, let's say 2% (1-in-50). Surface risk is not a risk as all outside.

    At the shops, meanwhile, there are loads of measures in place to keep people apart, but also ever the potential to meet an absent minded person, touch a surface, etc.. let's say risk factor of picking up an infection on a trip to the supermarket is 10%. (1-in-10)

    Now to compare risks.

    On my walk/run A x B x C I get 1/150 * 1/90 * 1/50 = 1 in 675,000.

    Going to the supermarket, it's 6/1 * 1/150 * 1/10 = 1 in 150.

    Now admittedly, with all the precautions in place, both activities are low risk, but for me, exercising once a day is 4500 less dangerous than grocery shopping.

    For others those numbers might be very different, e.g. urban runner, peak time shopper etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭lobbylad


    Aer Lingus EI 9018, Dublin to Beijing, just left on its first run for medical supplies

    https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9018/244976fb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    I've been critical of Varadkar and co on points like the airports, not implementing yesterday evening's plan when he spoke 6 days ago etc.

    However overall we're one of the better governed countries in our response to Covid 19. I'm happy with them 8/10 for me.

    Me too

    The UK were a little slow

    US citizens are very unfortunate in that their president seems unable to comprehend statistics, facts, mathematics, etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    It's highly contagious? Is it not obvious?

    FFS, i was asking about PPE equipment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    doxy79 wrote: »
    Lockdown started midnight and still no list? A good deal of ppl actually work weekends.

    The advice given was that if you're unsure if your business meets the essential criteria you should open today until the list is made available.

    It won't be an easy task putting this list together, they'll need to include any business that provides services or equipment to any of the essential services.

    It would be easier to come up with a non-essential list


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    RoryMac wrote: »
    The advice given was that if you're unsure if your business meets the essential criteria you should open today until the list is made available.

    It won't be an easy task putting this list together, they'll need to include any business that provides services or equipment to any of the essential services.

    It would be easier to come up with a non-essential list

    They should have had the list sorted before the lockdown. But sure the civil service doesn't work weekends. So to hell those that do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    khalessi wrote: »
    Still there

    Ah. You’re right.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/david-mcwilliams-we-need-to-totally-reimagine-economics-1.4213305?mode=amp

    A pity. They should really just remove it for the “lockdown” period. No wonder fake news spreads so fast on social media , when responsible journalism is hidden behind paywalls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭champchamp


    RoryMac wrote: »
    The advice given was that if you're unsure if your business meets the essential criteria you should open today until the list is made available.

    It won't be an easy task putting this list together, they'll need to include any business that provides services or equipment to any of the essential services.

    It would be easier to come up with a non-essential list


    The list could have been prepared 2 or 3 weeks ago...


  • Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The new directive having the Traveller community prioritised for testing as a high risk group makes sense really. It's not just the social distancing factor, it's the tendency to being overweight and smoking that puts them at high risk.

    Also, I see construction work is stopped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Good lord. Spain has joined the Italians

    +832 deaths being reported.


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