CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 08:52AM

Kivaro wrote: »

Watching news reports this morning on various channels from all around the world, why is it that I'm seeing spraying being done on a massive scale in other countries, but haven't seen anything similarly being done here in Ireland. How come?

I think, in the main, it's optics! It would be impossible to spray/disinfect all surfaces in the public realm and in any case, transfer of the virus is mainly person to person.

Similar to the optics of taking temperatures at airports!

Cilldara_2000 · 28-03-2020 08:52AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Should people be going for a walk with the kids?
As long as its within 2 k of the home,
As I seen when exercise was mentioned it said breif individual exercises

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/cf9b0d-new-public-health-measures-effective-now-to-prevent-further-spread-o/

Stay up to date with factual information through the official channels.

In this case:

Stay at home in all circumstances, except in the following situations:
...
to take brief individual physical exercise within your locality, which may include children from your household within 2 kilometres of your home and adhering to strict 2 metre social distancing measures
...

Wibbs · 28-03-2020 08:53AM

threeball wrote: »

In fairness, being obese in America is on a whole other scale. Obese here is a very loose term. I had a mate who played inter county hurling, wasn't a pick on him but was heavy due to muscle. He was classified as obese in Ireland however due to his height to weight ratio. Nearly all rugby players fall into the same category

You could say similar of American Football players T. Sure some healthy men who are very muscled(and shorter) have a BMI that strays into obese, but the vast majority of those measured as obese are not intercounty GAA lads or rugby lads, they're simply overweight. Vanishingly few women with overweight BMI's would fit that muscle height/weight category either. In essence if your BMI is over 25, you're far more likely to be fat than muscled. If it's over thirty and it's muscle, you've just won Mr Universe without trying.

facehugger99 · 28-03-2020 08:53AM

voluntary wrote: »

Americans are fuc.ed

The Irish are one of the most obese nations in the world.

iwillyeah1234 · 28-03-2020 08:54AM

Hopkins - breached the 600k mark

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Looks like we’re on that exponential graph.

JustAThought · 28-03-2020 08:54AM

there wont be a fish left in the sea or bees or wildlife anywhere if the poison the water and air with chemicals and bleach.Where so they think the run off for these chemicals go?

threeball · 28-03-2020 08:54AM

shinzon wrote: »

Basically Yes

Shin

Heard a young wan one rte crying about getting home yesterday from abroad. Her government had abandoned her and it hurt.

No mention that she had the guts of a month to either not go or get back. People like that sicken my hole.

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 08:54AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Should people be going for a walk with the kids?
As long as its within 2 k of the home,
As I seen when exercise was mentioned it said breif individual exercises

Yes, but just one parent....that's the 'individual' bit.

GM228 · 28-03-2020 08:54AM

Trump invoking the Defence Production Act and using a Presidential Order to use GM to produce ventilators, did he not recently say he didn't need them?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243559373395410957?s=19

timmy_mallet · 28-03-2020 08:55AM

Restriction rule; You need something from your office to work on Monday and for the forseeable. With Leo's restrictions, would you go to the office right now to get it?

tromtipp · 28-03-2020 08:56AM

Sweet suffering Jesus, walk the first 2 km of your favoured route, turn round and walk back. If you need to, repeat. It really isn't difficult.

During the Foot and Mouth epidemic we all* stopped walking in the countryside from early February until early May - it was difficult, but we managed it.

*Many of us.

cnocbui wrote: »

I could choose to walk a different route that would actually comply with the 2k limit. I would possibly, and likely, encounter far more people than taking a 4k walk on the other route. But that's ok, isn't it, because then I'm a dutiful, obedient little drone, slavishly complying with the rules, right? Anyone who lives in an urban area who goes for a 2k walk is going to encounter more people than I would walking for 4k. But that's following the rules, so it's fine. But this isn't about the actual realities of risk or endangerment of others, it's about me saying I'm going to break the precious rules. It's about non-conformity, not risk or endangerment of others.

I say I'm going to break the precious rules and it's: 'but think of all the nurses you will kill, you self entitled sanctimonious, selfish prick. But if I say I'm going to walk the more populated 2k route, and keep within the rules, it's: 'good on ya, mate, nice to see you doing the right thing, thinking of the nurses and sticking to the rules.'

sideswipe · 28-03-2020 08:57AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

That shocked me! Poeple....Irish people....still on cruises! FFS!

On this one AFAIK: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52072703

I read somewhere about 3 & 4 month world cruises knocking around the South Pacific with nobody willing to let them dock. They are carrying on as normal with no C virus on board. Perhaps it will be up to them to repopulated the planet when we are gone, I sure hope Doug from Wisconsin can still get it up.

Jin luk · 28-03-2020 08:58AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Hopkins - breached the 600k mark

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Looks like we’re on that exponential graph.

Its after going up over 100000 in just over 24hours

c montgomery · 28-03-2020 08:58AM

Kivaro wrote: »

Watching news reports this morning on various channels from all around the world, why is it that I'm seeing spraying being done on a massive scale in other countries, but haven't seen anything similarly being done here in Ireland. How come?

Apologies if this question was already asked in this fast-moving thread.

My workplace was sprayed after someone displayed multiple symptoms

I guess it's limited to places where deemed necessary

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 09:00AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Yeah, Cnocbui has thought about this, but has made the fatal error in thinking others, well, think.

I have no doubt that people would be still going to bray head, Lahinch etc in their droves this weekend and it just adds to pressure on the resources we don’t have at the moment.

Admittedly up until yesterday I still went to beaches and outdoor areas but not anywhere that was busy and not anywhere that had cramped car parks for example. Only went to places safe from a social distancing point of view as I’m terrified of questioning if I could have done more if someone in my family gets it.

I don’t want to live with “did that cause them to get it, would they have been ok if I didn’t go to x place that day, could I have done more to protect them” etc

I even avoid going to shops and petrol stations now unless I really have to. Just out of fear of passing it to someone I love. Not even just older people, we don’t know if it causes long term damage to children. Its a new disease and that is enough to put the fear into me! But not in a panic way

Get Real · 28-03-2020 09:00AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

I think, in the main, it's optics! It would be impossible to spray/disinfect all surfaces in the public realm and in any case, transfer of the virus is mainly person to person.

Similar to the optics of taking temperatures at airports!

I think so too. Fair enough I see in some countries them wiping hand rails etc or targeting specific surfaces.

But indiscriminate spraying of road surfaces is probably useless and pure optics. Look at the type of countries doing it too:

Brazil, Turkey, Myanmar, Mexico, Colombia, China, Syria, Ukraine, Thailand. Pictures of spraying pavements. Some of these countries have questionable regimes and murky transparency and I wouldn't be surprised if it was just water in some of them!

Fakediamond · 28-03-2020 09:00AM

saabsaab wrote: »

Not true at all the 2k limit is for exercise. You shop where you usually can even if outside 2k.

I was being ironic in response to a previous poster, who seemed to think we couldn’t even travel more than 2km to a shop :pac:

frillyleaf · 28-03-2020 09:01AM

daheff wrote: »

A lot of this is because people had paid for holiday, Government has not told travel operators to cancel, so people can't get their money back. People probably think
a)I've paid so not wasting the money
if it's not been cancelled it must be ok to go.

That gives me the shudders.

Jin luk · 28-03-2020 09:02AM

GM228 wrote: »

Trump invoking the Defence Production Act and using a Presidential Order to use GM to produce ventilators, did he not recently say he didn't need them?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243559373395410957?s=19

Someone only told him a covid 19 patient needs a ventilator for 21days rather than the usual 4-5days for flu. Sh*ts getting real over their am glad were in a lockdown now next thing we need to do is shut airports and ports

cL0h · 28-03-2020 09:02AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Yes, but just one parent....that's the 'individual' bit.

That seems incorrect. How does it make sense for kids to have less supervision when outside the home?

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 09:03AM

sideswipe wrote: »

I read somewhere about 3 & 4 month world cruises knocking around the South Pacific with nobody willing to let them dock. They are carrying on as normal with no C virus on board. Perhaps it will be up to them to repopulated the planet when we are gone, I sure hope Doug from Wisconsin can still get it up.

Well its actually a pretty good place to isolate yourself.

niallo27 · 28-03-2020 09:04AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Someone only told him a covid 19 patient needs a ventilator for 21days rather than the usual 4-5days for flu. Sh*ts getting real over their am glad were in a lockdown now next thing we need to do is shut airports and ports

Was it a doctor or just someone down the shop.

Poor_old_gill · 28-03-2020 09:04AM

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Conor Mcgregor speech on lockdown
Good he’s trying to help!
He mentioned 5 weeks first 2 weeks then 3 more weeks and talked about shutting the airports.

I'd be very much be in the 'cant stand the sight or sound of McGregor' brigade but he's doing his bit and he has given a million quid to help the effort.

Fairplay to him, when this is all over- I will definitely remember the people & businesses that helped and he very much falls into that category.

We have a country of a shedload of millionaires and some billionaires - these people need to put their money where their mouth is, like McGregor

amadangomor · 28-03-2020 09:04AM

cL0h wrote: »

That seems incorrect. How does it make sense for kids to have less supervision when outside the home?

:rolleyes:

Fr_Dougal · 28-03-2020 09:05AM

Naked Lepper wrote: »

looks like the government listened to him

Nobody gives a damn what that junkie scumbag thinks. Restrictions would have been planned well before that knackbag took to social media.

DOCARCH · 28-03-2020 09:05AM

cL0h wrote: »

That seems incorrect. How does it make sense for kids to have less supervision when outside the home?

That's what it says....'individual exercise' (i.e. on your own). Leave the kids at home!

Jin luk · 28-03-2020 09:06AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Was it a doctor or just someone down the shop.

The fella i got my dog off has an uncle in ohio whos nephew wife is in a barracks in guam and her grandmother is a wife of trumps cousin and said it a family dinner to him supposedly

28-03-2020 09:09AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's what it says....'individual exercise' (i.e. on your own). Leave the kids at home!

I don’t think that the guards are going to stop someone exercising with their kid

Logan Roy · 28-03-2020 09:10AM

Wibbs wrote: »

You could say similar of American Football players T. Sure some healthy men who are very muscled(and shorter) have a BMI that strays into obese, but the vast majority of those measured as obese are not intercounty GAA lads or rugby lads, they're simply overweight. Vanishingly few women with overweight BMI's would fit that muscle height/weight category either. In essence if your BMI is over 25, you're far more likely to be fat than muscled. If it's over thirty and it's muscle, you've just won Mr Universe without trying.

:pac: I've a BMI of 26.5. I'm 5ft 11 and 86kg and lean. This is a pretty typical height and weight for anyone into sport. You don't need to be Mr Universe to have a BMI over 25.

cL0h · 28-03-2020 09:10AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

That's what it says....'individual exercise' (i.e. on your own). Leave the kids at home!

I know what the published rules are. I don't like making a personal statement but you clearly don't have kids. This needs clarification by an official source.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03