CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

CIARAN_BOYLE · 27-03-2020 04:26PM

maxpowers wrote: »

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

Interesting read..

Want to sum it up for those of us that don't care to register for a newsite?

marilynrr · 27-03-2020 04:26PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

ok at least you accept the possibility of a vaccine taking years.

The alternative is we aim for slowly controlled herd immunity and isolating the vulnerable and elderly for years.

But its not so easy to isolate the elderly especially those who are highly dependent such as in nursing homes.

The reason for the current lockdown is to flatten the curve so our health services are not overwhelmed too quickly.

I understand it may take years, if they even can make one and I absolutely understand the point for the current lockdown which is to flatten the curve, but we can't sustain a lockdown long term.

Not only will it negatively impact peoples mental health, it will lead to deaths due to that impact on mental health.

We also have to consider if that would be the best for the elderly to remain isolated and cut off from physical contact with their family (just in case they get covid-19) when something else may kill them anyway. There are some elderly people who are saying that there would be worse ways to go and they don't want to be isolated away from everyone. They would rather take their chances.

So while I am in favour of and understand the need for the current lockdown, I do not see it as sustainable, and I don't necessarily think it's the right thing to do either, even for the elderly.

paleoperson · 27-03-2020 04:27PM

maxpowers wrote: »

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

Interesting read..

Anyone who finds that "interesting" is a complete idiot.

Was he "recently retired" or was he struck off? Ridiculous article.

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 04:27PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Want to sum it up for those of us that don't care to register for a newsite?

No need to register. You get 2 free articles apparently.

mick987 · 27-03-2020 04:27PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

i'm not.. i just find the whole "clapping" thing a bit weird and cultish.

Australia did it
Holland did it
Belgium did it
Canada did it

to name but a few and the only people you mention are the brits, OK then

BanditLuke · 27-03-2020 04:29PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

Full video from doctor in Madrid after his request to share..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWFr6khY2U4

Heartbreaking

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 04:29PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

i'm not.. i just find the whole "clapping" thing a bit weird and cultish.

Clapping in general?

Can't bate an aul bualadh bos

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 04:29PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Anyone who finds that "interesting" is a complete idiot.

Was he "recently retired" or was he struck off? Ridiculous article.

He got to what? 1000 words and your retort is barely 20 and mostly personal insults. What's ridiculous about it?

Boggles · 27-03-2020 04:29PM

KiKi III wrote: »

What evidence do you want above Simon Harris and the HSE saying they have? Screenshots of the contracts?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-government-in-talks-with-ventilator-manufacturers-says-harris-1.4206803%3fmode=amp

It was your specific claim, all I'm asking for you to do is back it up. It's kind of how these things work.

GooglePlus · 27-03-2020 04:29PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

i'm not.. i just find the whole "clapping" thing a bit weird and cultish.

It's hardly cultish, why would your mind even go there?

It's solidarity, we're all in this together and it might have meant a lot to the people out there on the frontline of it all.

27-03-2020 04:29PM

Maybe this got posted already. Apologies if it has. But the new London coronavirus ward is some incredible space. Two 1km long halls

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EOxjJUGIn2I

timhenn · 27-03-2020 04:29PM

Xertz wrote: »

Also, while 19 deaths is horrendous at a human level, on a statistical basis small numbers are quite difficult to compare as there's a relatively small change is a huge %

So doing these comparisons over short time, with relatively small numbers is probably not indicative of much other than an unfortunate cluster in one country and pot luck elsewhere.

There isn't really enough data there to draw any conclusions about anything.

I think it's safe to say that we're a long way behind Singapore anyway?

For a tiny island, to be so far up the list of total deaths is a pretty bad reflection of how things were dealt with here. Let's hope it doesn't get too far out of hand. Right now, it doesn't look good.

maxpowers · 27-03-2020 04:30PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Anyone who finds that "interesting" is a complete idiot.

Was he "recently retired" or was he struck off? Ridiculous article.

Whats ridiculous about it?

wakka12 · 27-03-2020 04:30PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Blum

American actor Mark Blum has died of coronavirus

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 04:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Matt Hancock is a bit of a cutie

https://twitter.com/jonoread/status/1239161323428237312

yourdeadwright · 27-03-2020 04:32PM

timhenn wrote: »

I think it's safe to say that we're a long way behind Singapore anyway?

For a tiny island, to be so far up the list of total deaths is a pretty bad reflection of how things were dealt with here. Let's hope it doesn't get too far out of hand. Right now, it doesn't look good.

Unfortunately it looks like a lot of yesterday deaths where form the Virus getting into a nursing home , Absolute worst place it could be

paleoperson · 27-03-2020 04:33PM

is_that_so wrote: »

He got to what? 1000 words and your retort is barely 20 and mostly personal insults. What's ridiculous about it?

I'm sorry but if you are too dumb to understand still then I can't help you. Professionals have been explaining in excruciating detail how it's not like the flu and how deadly this is for months, I have explained it over and over and I'm not doing it again. Go and read for yourself.

10000maniacs · 27-03-2020 04:34PM

mick987 wrote: »

Australia did it
Holland did it
Belgium did it
Canada did it

to name but a few and the only people you mention are the brits, OK then

Reminds me of the Je Suis Charlie thing a few years ago.

caveat emptor · 27-03-2020 04:36PM

NY times open sourcing their data on cases. Would be great if we have something similar. I know there is the dashboard that they have which is ok. It's at county level.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data

NYTIMES wrote:

The New York Times is releasing a series of data files with cumulative counts of coronavirus cases in the United States, at the state and county level, over time. We are compiling this time series data from state and local governments and health departments in an attempt to provide a complete record of the ongoing outbreak.

Since late January, The Times has tracked cases of coronavirus in real time as they were identified after testing. Because of the widespread shortage of testing, however, the data is necessarily limited in the picture it presents of the outbreak.

We have used this data to power our maps and reporting tracking the outbreak, and it is now being made available to the public in response to requests from researchers, scientists and government officials who would like access to the data to better understand the outbreak.

The data begins with the first reported coronavirus case in Washington State on Jan. 21, 2020. We will publish regular updates to the data in this repository.

walshb · 27-03-2020 04:36PM

Did the UK have a big jump in reported deaths today?

Xertz · 27-03-2020 04:36PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

i'm not.. i just find the whole "clapping" thing a bit weird and cultish.

I really don't tbh and I think you'll find many others don't either. It's just people want to signal their support for health workers and it's a simple way of doing so

It's rather human.

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 04:36PM

timhenn wrote: »

I think it's safe to say that we're a long way behind Singapore anyway?

For a tiny island, to be so far up the list of total deaths is a pretty bad reflection of how things were dealt with here. Let's hope it doesn't get too far out of hand. Right now, it doesn't look good.

Yes, you’re right. We have not done as well as Singapore. Happy? Can you acknowledge that we’re doing better than our close neighbours in NI and the UK, not to mention across the pond in the US?

We are unlikely to be among the very best countries at dealing with this, but we’ll also be far from the worst.

Catastrophising doesn’t help.

walshb · 27-03-2020 04:37PM

Very difficult to comprehend a lot of this....

Is this pandemic growing or abating? By abating, I mean slowing down as regards its impact and infections....

ILoveYourVibes · 27-03-2020 04:38PM

walshb wrote: »

Very difficult to comprehend a lot of this....

Is this pandemic growing or abating? By abating, I mean slowing down as regards its impact and infections....

Where? Here growing but at a slower rate than we predicted.

An Ciarraioch · 27-03-2020 04:38PM

The Falklands has a suspected case of coronavirus - the major worry being that if there were to be community transmission, any tests currently have to be sent to the UK:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1260976/falkland-islands-coronavirus-covid-19-lockdown-pandemic-outbreak

Xertz · 27-03-2020 04:38PM

I am finding the news reporting on this quite confusing. Boris Johnson has tested positive for COVID-19 and has said he's showing mild symptoms, yet, according to various news reports, is only self-isolating for 7 days.

That seems highly irresponsible, if accurate.

He could infect the entire cabinet office.

Downlinz · 27-03-2020 04:39PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWFr6khY2U4

Much like in Italy things have turned seriously grim in Madrid. Over 65's essentially being euthanised due to a lack of respirators, staff being told to put on a brave face at work and cry when they're at home.

Difficult to imagine this kind of horror and we could only be a couple of weeks away.

An Ciarraioch · 27-03-2020 04:39PM

walshb wrote: »

Did the UK have a big jump in reported deaths today?

Yes, roughly a 31% increase.

Muahahaha · 27-03-2020 04:40PM

Its mad to think that the US had their first case of Covid on Jan 22nd and now as of yesterday they've got over 80,000 cases. South Korea had their first case on Jan 21st......

take everything · 27-03-2020 04:40PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Blum

American actor Mark Blum has died of coronavirus

Wasn't he the love interest in Desperately seeking Susan

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03