CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

10000maniacs · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

Tony EH wrote: »

He didn't give a fuck about other people getting a couple of weeks ago.

His original "herd immunity" policy was an incredibly inept and heartless strategy. Probably instigated by Cummins.

murpho999 · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Hmm let me see? Because London, Netherlands and New York are riddled with coronavirus. Good enough.

Stop using the "they are only cargo planes" nonsense. Anyone is free to book a ticket on them. If they were cargo they'd be taken off the website.

Like I said a month from now we will be in deep sh*t because of this.

Riddled , please stop.

Also what makes you think all these riddled people are coming here.

Maybe we should do the opposite and fly all our riddle Irish people out of the country.

trashcan · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

paleoperson wrote: »

I never thought I'd get to the point where I'd be rationing garlic, it's so cheap and you get so much together. But it's sold out and I don't know when it's going to be back in stock.

Is garlic the new toilet paper ?

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Get lost. A small number of my posts have been about planes and the absolutely idiocy of those who think its a good idea to fly in new coronavirus cases when we can't cope with the ones we have already.

No! Come on, nearly every post from you is about feckin planes man, we get it.

A post on this thread every 5 mins about the same thing isn't going to chance diddly squat, the powers that be aren't taking this thread as advice when making decisions on a national basis.

We're going into deep shit regardless of planes and boats landing.

Either way - if we locked down all air & boat travel back in the end of feb when you first suggested - we might have taken on less cases than we do right now - but what then? We actually need coronavirus 19 to slowly burn through the population anyway - just slowly, which we're trying to ensure by closing down half the country and doing serious measures for social distancing to stop the spread - if it didn't get in now, it would get in and spread once any blockade is lifted because there is no natural immunity!

An Ciarraioch · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

Six deaths in Wales today.

whiskeyman · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

We are a few weeks away from having to decide who gets ventilators as is. Some counties have only one or two ventilators.

Days

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0327/1126691-coronavirus-ireland/

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has warned that intensive care units may be at capacity "within a few days".

iwillyeah1234 · 27-03-2020 02:10PM

ok.. i've dug it up. seems like they might have picked it up from luggage. not cargo.

https://www.airport-technology.com/news/coronavirus-heathrow-baggage-handlers/

but still - it's another reason to be extremely cautious about what incoming flights you are allowing.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 02:11PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Give it a month. All countries are working off different Day 1s and are reporting their numbers differently. It’s hard to compare.

This is deaths. There is no reporting differently on deaths. Either people die or they don't. It doesn't make for good reading does it?

rossie1977 · 27-03-2020 02:11PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

I can use other examples if you like Norway, Finland, Singapore....

New Zealand is a top tourist destination which is close to Australia.

Close. I was just there in November. Its a 3.5 hour flight from New Zealand to the nearest major metros ie Sydney and Melbourne.

Akin to saying Ireland is close to Ukraine or Western Russia.

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 02:11PM

Boggles wrote: »

Have we?

Yup, 900 on order. I think it’s 300 immediately and 80 per week indefinitely from then.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/coronavirus-medtronic-aiming-to-make-500-ventilators-a-week-1.4212085?mode=amp

scamalert · 27-03-2020 02:11PM

a month from now government will pull the plug and we will be back to whatever is normal, virus or not people need to eat and pay bills, and welfare wont do that forever.

podgeandrodge · 27-03-2020 02:12PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Who wouldn't gloat at Boris getting it

I wouldn't.

10000maniacs · 27-03-2020 02:12PM

scamalert wrote: »

a month from now government will pull the plug and we will be back to whatever is normal, virus or not people need to eat and pay bills, and welfare wont do that forever.

No they won't.

is_that_so · 27-03-2020 02:12PM

Boggles wrote: »

Have we?

900 ordered and Medtronic would be an obvious source.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0320/1124290-covid-19-coronavirus-health/

bekker · 27-03-2020 02:12PM

Comparing COVID-19 figures in different countries is virtually meaningless with so many variables in play, even before factoring in the differences in recording methodologies.

Here are the 12 worst death rates derived from total deaths and deaths/recovered over a group of 36 countries in Europe, US and Hubei, based on different approaches to ranking them.

They're of no validity for anything other that tracking the trends in the increase/decrease of individual countries (and even then only as long as their recording methodologies remain consistent).

Ace2007 · 27-03-2020 02:13PM

timhenn wrote: »

We have more deaths than these countries with bigger populations:

Poland 37 million
Australia 24 million
Argentina 45 million
Israel 8 million
Morocco 36 million

I could go on. The number will rise in these countries but for an island, this does not make for good reading.

Well do us all a favour and get on a plane and fly over there and you can tell us how great those countries are when you get there.

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 02:13PM

timhenn wrote: »

This is deaths. There is no reporting differently on deaths. Either people die or they don't. It doesn't make for good reading does it?

Different Day 1s does make a difference to deaths. Fewer deaths *today* doesn’t really mean anything if the virus has been here for two weeks and there for 5 days. As we have seen, 24 hours is a long time in the life of this virus.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-03-2020 02:13PM

https://twitter.com/CoronaHeadsUp/status/1243522679623364612

Tacitus Kilgore · 27-03-2020 02:13PM

scamalert wrote: »

a month from now government will pull the plug and we will be back to whatever is normal, virus or not people need to eat and pay bills, and welfare wont do that forever.

According to one of our louder economists - the free money can continue for about 3-4 months before it becomes unsustainable. Providing inflation remains negative/low - which it surely will.

We could be doing worse than borrowing at negative interest rates to be fair.

paul71 · 27-03-2020 02:13PM

Cupatae wrote: »

im defaming companies? wha? i pointed out that it is happening i didnt say if it was right or wrong, just that people are pissed and "naming and shaming".

You are really trying to be offended.

Did I say you? You are the one trying to be offended.

NH2013 · 27-03-2020 02:14PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Hmm let me see? Because London, Netherlands and New York are riddled with coronavirus. Good enough.

Stop using the "they are only cargo planes" nonsense. Anyone is free to book a ticket on them. If they were cargo they'd be taken off the website.

Like I said a month from now we will be in deep sh*t because of this.

Well let me put it to you this way, 1/3 of Irish adults are dependent on long term prescription medicines, of which between 60-70% of which are imported from abroad.

That means that of the aprox 3.2m adults in this country almost a million are dependent on medicines, 700,000 of which are medicines that come in from abroad, from asthma, to diabetes, to blood thinners etc.

Should we deprive those 700,000 people of their medicines being imported on these mostly cargo flights in order to stop the potentially 3-4 people on the flights arriving, who'll have to quarantine for 14 days anyways.

timhenn · 27-03-2020 02:14PM

bekker wrote: »

Comparing COVID-19 figures in different countries is virtually impossible with so many variables in play, even before factoring in the differences in recording methodologies.

Here are the 12 worst death rates derived from total deaths and deaths/recovered over a group of 36 countries in Europe, US and Hubei, based on different approaches to ranking them.

They're of no validity for anything other that tracking the trends in the increase/decrease of individual countries (and even then only as long as their recording methodologies remain consistent).

Comparing the death rates is not impossible.

paul71 · 27-03-2020 02:15PM

scamalert wrote: »

a month from now government will pull the plug and we will be back to whatever is normal, virus or not people need to eat and pay bills, and welfare wont do that forever.

The current welfare scheme is in place for the next 12 weeks.

iguana · 27-03-2020 02:15PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Only nursing home death I know of was sunday at Elmgreen Nursing Home in Castleknock. Info in the papers

O'Holohan said yesterday that most of the 10 reported deaths had come from an 'institutional setting.' That sounds like a nursing home to me.

Cupatae · 27-03-2020 02:15PM

paul71 wrote: »

Did I say you? You are the one trying to be offended.

ok

timhenn · 27-03-2020 02:16PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Well do us all a favour and get on a plane and fly over there and you can tell us how great those countries are when you get there.

Why would I do that? Put myself and others at risk of picking this up. It just shows that other countries might be dealing with this crisis better.

Widdensushi · 27-03-2020 02:16PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

According to one of our louder economists - the free money can continue for about 3-4 months before it becomes unsustainable. Providing inflation remains negative/low - which it surely will.

We could be doing worse than borrowing at negative interest rates to be fair.

do you believe in the tooth fairy as well

derossi · 27-03-2020 02:16PM

On the recovered cases, surely the figure is much higher? The official figure must be from those recovered and released from hospital but the vast majority of the cases are those not needing hospitilisation and surely many of those will have recovered if based on 14 days isolation and that would be increasing every day?

KiKi III · 27-03-2020 02:17PM

timhenn wrote: »

Comparing the death rates is not impossible.

Yeah but the way you’re doing it is inaccurate.

To do it accurately you need to compare how many deaths Ireland had vs Denmark or Poland on day 1, day 7, day 10.

Comparing absolute numbers right now is not comparing like with like.

scamalert · 27-03-2020 02:17PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

According to one of our louder economists - the free money can continue for about 3-4 months before it becomes unsustainable. Providing inflation remains negative/low - which it surely will.

We could be doing worse than borrowing at negative interest rates to be fair.

theres no such thing as free, someone always has to pay. im not saying its bad that it drags on but long term Ireland could easily become like Spain or Italy unemployment will sky rocket, people used to bash about dole, dont see how half country will support other half when time comes to make up for lost expenses.

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03