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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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  • #2402
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,967 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Why isnt the Swedish leader getting the same grief that people are giving Trump and Boris?

    Can you name the "Swedish Leader"?

    I can't.


  • #2403
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,967 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Go away..
    He's doing his best.

    Remotely.


  • #2404
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Tea Shock wrote: »
    Tesco would be more than happy to hire staff that will want to leave as soon the crisis is over. That's exactly who they should want!

    The missus tells me our local Tesco home deliver service is booked up solid for the next 2 or 3 weeks. I don't understand why they're not hiring Johnny who lost his job from the shop next door to use his own vehicle to make deliveries for them, until his shop reopens - at which time, they won't need him anymore.

    Everyone wins! Tesco, their customers, Johnny and the exchequer!

    Just rang 4 local Tesco's pretended I was out of working and looking to fill any temporary roles.

    2 asked me for my age and once I responded told me they didn't have anything at the moment.

    the other 2 told me they'd e-mail an application form, both pretty much said fill it in as quickly as possible and they'd get the ball rolling, one offering 8 hours a week contract for 3 weeks trial and the other 6 hours a week for 4 weeks.

    Not exactly mortgage payment monies there is it. Not as simple as you make out my friend.

    The lifeboat has set sail



  • #2405
    Woodsie1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Boggles wrote: »
    Can you name the "Swedish Leader"?

    I can't.

    No lol...just seems the handling of the virus in Sweden is "ah sure itll be grand"


  • #2406
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


      silverharp wrote: »
      I just wear a pair of woolly gloves in the supermarket, its not a surface that they can survive on long, other than that no reason to be touching anything outside with your hands, elbows will get pedestrian lights etc.

      Fishing must try harder


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    • #2407
      thebaz
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


      Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
      For what?

      Sweden has very few retrictions in place - society is open - bar banning gatherings of 500 , and asking people to behave sensibly - sounds like Herd immunity plan to me -

      The reason I believe Sweden have not got the backlash like Trump and Borris ,is the Swedish figures are not too bad in comparison to other countrys that have virtually locked down ther society.

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries


    • #2408
      iguana
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


      Tony EH wrote: »
      Seriously, people need to be very careful in what they wish for and the likes of a cashless society won't be of any real benefit to the man in the street.

      And just think about how much it would fuçk things up for the tooth fairy!:(


    • #2409
      Boggles
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,967 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


      iguana wrote: »
      And just think about how much it would fuçk things up for the tooth fairy!:(

      That Bítch is due an audit, no sympathy.


    • #2410
      Steve F
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Steve F


      Boggles wrote: »
      That Bítch is due an audit, no sympathy.

      :pac:


    • #2411
      TheAsYLuMkeY
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


      Logan Roy wrote: »
      There's a difference between a "message" and "facts". Are you advocating the governments lie about the age profile mostly impacted to try and get all ages to comply with measures?

      Ah here, i am going to bow out before i start insulting and losing my cool.

      There have been NEEDLESS deaths because of the MESSAGE that was sent.

      Everyone needs to be careful and wary.


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    • #2412
      Funkfield
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Funkfield


      AtomicHorror wrote: »
      https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112842027&postcount=7234

      Read it yourself. Maybe you can still edit it.

      source.gif


    • #2413
      otnomart
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


      Thelonious Monk wrote: »
      Yeah it's just weird that every other country seems to have army with guns on the streets and empty city centres, i dont get why we are an outlier.
      The armed forces have actually proven to be a great asset in this epidemic - in some Countries like France and Italy for example.
      In France, they have built a field hospital in Mulhouse.
      In Italy, they have also built field hospitals and the Air Force has been key in transferring patients (in special biohazard trolleys) to Regions that have more ICU capacity. Photo below.

      I expect that in the UK the armed forces will also play a key role.


      010394e3b479ee6b33b52c09efaa6f9a.jpg


    • #2414
      Kermit.de.frog
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


      thebaz wrote: »
      Sweden has very few retrictions in place - society is open - bar banning gatherings of 500 , and asking people to behave sensibly - sounds like Herd immunity plan to me -

      The reason I believe Sweden have not got the backlash like Trump and Borris ,is the Swedish figures are not too bad in comparison to other countrys that have virtually locked down ther society.

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

      They are higher than ours and is it true Sweden isn't that bothered about testing?


    • #2415
      Hurrache
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


      Tea Shock wrote: »
      The missus tells me our local Tesco home deliver service is booked up solid for the next 2 or 3 weeks. I don't understand why they're not hiring Johnny who lost his job from the shop next door to use his own vehicle to make deliveries for them, until his shop reopens - at which time, they won't need him anymore.

      Everyone wins! Tesco, their customers, Johnny and the exchequer!

      Simple reasons as to why not, traceability and food safety.


    • #2416
      Jostef
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭Jostef


      BattleCorp wrote: »
      There are a few issues.

      1. Is Johnny trained? Manual handling training, risk assessment training, COVID-19 training etc.

      2. Is Johnny's car insured for business purposes?

      3. Who is responsible for the maintenance of Johnny's car?

      4. Tesco don't know about Johnny's driving history? Is he a safe driver? Has he a heap of penalty points etc.

      5. Is Johnny's car/vehicle temperature controlled? Can't have cold-chain perishables sitting in the back of a car on a sunny day.

      5. Does Johnny carry around his dog etc. in the same car he carries groceries?

      While it's a good idea in principle, it's not as straightforward as people think.

      The army are on standby. Why not use them?


    • #2417
      thebaz
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


      Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
      They are higher than ours and is it true Sweden isn't that bothered about testing?

      given we have been in semi-lockdown for 2 weeks, i would have expected Sweden to have a much higher infection rate and death toll - I trust the Swedish figures , be very intersting to see how this plays out in 10 days , particuly for developing countrys that just could not enforce the lockdown plans the West are doing today.


    • #2418
      Tea Shock
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 345 ✭✭Tea Shock


      Interesting conversation on the radio about experiments in the US where people will take blood from people who have recovered from Coronavirus - and hopefully developed immunity to it, so that others who have the virus will more easily recover, and those who don't will never get it. That seems to be where it's going next. Will take a couple of weeks to see if it works to any extent.


    • #2419
      Thargor
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,471 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


      Truly a golden age for political leadership around the world:

      https://twitter.com/cillianwalsh_/status/1243498544566239232


    • #2420
      Hurrache
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


      Jostef wrote: »
      The army are on standby. Why not use them?

      Same reasons, I doubt few are familiar with HACCP, and fewer refrigerated trucks. Grand for most ambient food but not for fresh and refrigerated. Food companies themselves have to jump through hoops when it comes to usage of cages and the likes.


    • #2421
      [Deleted User]
      Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


      thebaz wrote: »
      Sweden has very few retrictions in place - society is open - bar banning gatherings of 500 , and asking people to behave sensibly - sounds like Herd immunity plan to me -

      The reason I believe Sweden have not got the backlash like Trump and Borris ,is the Swedish figures are not too bad in comparison to other countrys that have virtually locked down ther society.

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

      There is no plan that makes sense other than some kind of herd immunity. The only variable is how much a country tries to flatten the curve, and that should largely be based on the ability of the health services to cope. And is specific to every country (I think Ireland right now has it about right)

      You can’t stop the virus and even if you did, through literally locking everyone away so the virus had nowhere to go, then everyone would have to be locked away until there is a vaccine. Which could be a year or more. And that is out of the question


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    • #2422
      Kermit.de.frog
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


      thebaz wrote: »
      given we have been in semi-lockdown for 2 weeks, i would have expected Sweden to have a much higher infection rate and death toll - I trust the Swedish figures , be very intersting to see how this plays out in 10 days , particuly for developing countrys that just could not enforce the lockdown plans the West are doing today.

      They have 53 new cases so far today. They seem, like us, at the start of the curve.


    • #2423
      mick987
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


      cloudatlas wrote: »
      Many countries stalled on implementing measures but they didn't use the words 'herd immunity' and that is why the Uk Gov has been crucified because they actually named it. Varadkar says you can meet with 4 people outside your family. What if one infects one of those four and then they go off an infect people in turn. Would that create 'Herd Immunity'?

      The only difference between the UK and Irish Governments is the UK government said herd immunity and we did not, both doing the same things at slightly different time scales


    • #2424
      murpho999
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,939 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


      cloudatlas wrote: »
      Many countries stalled on implementing measures but they didn't use the words 'herd immunity' and that is why the Uk Gov has been crucified because they actually named it. Varadkar says you can meet with 4 people outside your family. What if one infects one of those four and then they go off an infect people in turn. Would that create 'Herd Immunity'?

      Yes but the group must keep social distancing. People have to take responsibility themselves on this.

      I don't think 'herd immunity' is any part of the Irish thinking at all.

      Britain and Netherlands did and it has failed.


    • #2425
      Naggdefy
      Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


      Thargor wrote: »
      Truly a golden age for political leadership around the world:

      https://twitter.com/cillianwalsh_/status/1243498544566239232

      Fcuking eejit!!


    • #2426
      iamwhoiam
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,427 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


      Simon Harris on RTE Junior now and doing really well answering kids questions

      I was never his biggest fan but he has stepped up to this challenge really well


    • #2427
      skellig_rocks
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


      tobefrank321 wrote: »
      Lets argue about the hypocrisy of it all when we are all infected shall we?

      Or on the otherhand lets look to successful models on how this can be fought?

      Its amazing when faced with a crisis, some people spend far more time pointing fingers and blaming, than working on a solution.

      The political model in China is actually irrelevant. What is relevant is what they did and the lessons to be learned.


      China was downplaying the seriousness of the virus to the outside world (saving their international images and its export economy), I think this is the major reason why European and US governments did not take "decisive actions" from end of January - end of February.


    • #2428
      silverharp
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


      as for mask shortage, here is one solution





      https://twitter.com/peterfreed/status/1242629357211987968

      A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



    • #2429
      murpho999
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,939 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


      mick987 wrote: »
      The only difference between the UK and Irish Governments is the UK government said herd immunity and we did not, both doing the same things at slightly different time scales

      Our testing approach is different.

      We closed things down 10-14 days ahead of them That's more than slight.
      Testing strategy also very different.

      Their population is denser than ours so that time difference is huge and given the virus more time to multiply among the masses.

      Ireland has not shown any signs of a herd immunity approach.

      Time will tell but I predict the death rate per 100,000 people will be much larger in the UK than here.


    • #2430
      thebaz
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


      Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
      They have 53 new cases so far today. They seem, like us, at the start of the curve.

      Not necessarliy so, they had ther first case mid February :-

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

      As I said, give it week, and see how it plays.


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    • #2431
      spookwoman
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


      https://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/1243515606147772417?s=20


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